JoeQuince Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Martinez needs to manage the situation delicately. I am sure Galloway is a level headed, decent lad, but so is Stones and look what happened there. Galloway has earned his starting position and Baines needs to earn it back, not just take it by right. No, Martinez doesn't need to handle this delicately. Leighton Baines is Leighton Baines. Galloway has done really well. But, I'm sure he knows his place. If Galloway can't handle Baines coming back into his place in the side (which, when he's healthy, should never be in question), then that's his problem. The only thing Baines needs to prove is his health. The good thing is that, thanks to the play of Galloway, Barry and Kone, Martinez is under no pressure to rush him back. Romey 1878, MikeO and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Baines isn't the same player of 5 years ago. He virtually admitted that himself last week. He's been a passenger for two season IMO! If he can get that form back there's no question he should be in the side... But does it really help moral to just drop players (who've done extremely well) because of past performances and reputation? Matt and MC11 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Baines isn't the same player of 5 years ago. He virtually admitted that himself last week. He's been a passenger for two season IMO! If he can get that form back there's no question he should be in the side... But does it really help moral to just drop players (who've done extremely well) because of past performances and reputation? Second most assist in league last year or the year before. How is that not quality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Baines isnt just hands down the best left back at the club he is also easily the best left back in the Premier League so if Roberto doesnt bring him back in he needs his head read MikeO and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Second most assist in league last year or the year before. How is that not quality? It's not a priority attribute when looking for a left back. It's useful depending on the opposition, as it useful to have a defender who will stop the opposition from getting the ball in. Baines is a LWB for me, and should play if the formation and opposition suits. Atm Galloway is doing a fine job of filling in a role more similar to a traditional left back. Forward wise he's good enough for a LB (without consideration that he's a CB). Defensively I'd go as far to say he's been the best LB in the league. I can only think of one below par performance. Most goals have come due to errors from the senior pros, Howard, Jags, Stones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 It's not a priority attribute when looking for a left back. It's useful depending on the opposition, as it useful to have a defender who will stop the opposition from getting the ball in. Baines is a LWB for me, and should play if the formation and opposition suits. Atm Galloway is doing a fine job of filling in a role more similar to a traditional left back. Forward wise he's good enough for a LB (without consideration that he's a CB). Defensively I'd go as far to say he's been the best LB in the league. I can only think of one below par performance. Most goals have come due to errors from the senior pros, Howard, Jags, Stones. The game has moved on, Tony Hibbert is probably the best traditional right back around but you wouldn't put him in ahead of Coleman Galloway got found out again today and Baines has to come straight back in as soon as he is fit enough Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 The game has moved on, Tony Hibbert is probably the best traditional right back around but you wouldn't put him in ahead of Coleman Galloway got found out again today and Baines has to come straight back in as soon as he is fit enough Spot on dunc. Again today shows galloways been found out, no pace and he's a CB not a fullback. Baines starter for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 The game has moved on, Tony Hibbert is probably the best traditional right back around but you wouldn't put him in ahead of Coleman Galloway got found out again today and Baines has to come straight back in as soon as he is fit enough Said it a few weeks ago that he'd been found out and we'd done well to get away with it until that point. Today has done nothing to dispel that belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Galloway has done brilliantly, i'm sure we all agree he will have a great career. But we have no threat down the left hand side. Geri is doing great on the right, but we need another option on that left side. I cant wait to see what we can do with Baines in the side. MikeO, markjazzbassist and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-defender-leighton-baines-pain-10601660 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3363470/Everton-defender-Leighton-Baines-treats-inspirational-young-boy-shopping-trip.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3363470/Everton-defender-Leighton-Baines-treats-inspirational-young-boy-shopping-trip.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Fucking brilliant. How happy does that little boy look, not to mention all the other kids who'll get gifts at Xmas. Bloody good work LB. Edited December 17, 2015 by Deacs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Now go and get a haircut. Romey 1878 and Deacs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Now go and get a haircut. i thought the beatles were from your city? they all had long hair, what's wrong with it? i've got long hair, can i not be a fan now? i just don't see what the big deal is. half the players look like ostrich's with the shaved side and mohawk on top, surely this looks better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Not against long hair, but it deffo needs a tidy up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Back to being the best left back in England. What a player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 MOST #BPL ASSISTS SINCE 2010/11: 54 - Silva 42 - Rooney 38 - Mata 37 - Brunt 33 - Cazorla 32 - Baines, Fabregas Not bad company to be in. How Chris Brunt is there, I'll never know... markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 http://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2016/1/18/10785218/baines-everton-need-to-get-better-at-game-management Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 http://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2016/1/18/10785218/baines-everton-need-to-get-better-at-game-managementcontradicting Martinez completely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 contradicting Martinez completely He'll be the next victim of a Martinez vendetta now . Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) contradicting Martinez completely i think that's how martinez wanted it to go though personally. he wasn't going to publicly slate his players because in actuality we won the game, the ref botched it. so there was no need for them to "get it together". now do they need to? yes, and that's what baines is saying. he's saying the manager backs us and is giving us confidence but i'm gonna rip the lads a new one because we need to hold the lead and win these matches. it's not up to the manager for this because we need to hold each other accountable and play a full 90. smart really, the team keeps it in the locker room to have at each other to get stronger and the manager is still backing them. if he ripped into them and let them have it, confidence could be low for the Semi-Final and Swansea matches, which are both must wins. Edited January 18, 2016 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 To be clear, managing the game isn't necessarily a "manager" task, of course it's part of it but it's clear that baines is holding everyone accountable. Did Martinez tell gerry to run with the ball instead of hold it up? Nope. That's game management. There is only so much a manager can do. If Martinez is taking stick for game management there, is he to take credit for seeing it out with 10 men in the league cup? markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 i think that's how martinez wanted it to go though personally. he wasn't going to publicly slate his players because in actuality we won the game, the ref botched it. so there was no need for them to "get it together". now do they need to? yes, and that's what baines is saying. he's saying the manager backs us and is giving us confidence but i'm gonna rip the lads a new one because we need to hold the lead and win these matches. it's not up to the manager for this because we need to hold each other accountable and play a full 90. smart really, the team keeps it in the locker room to have at each other to get stronger and the manager is still backing them. if he ripped into them and let them have it, confidence could be low for the Semi-Final and Swansea matches, which are both must wins. I meant more that Roberto said we don't need to manage games better but Baines says exactly that we do, like Barry and Jags have said. Made me laugh anyway markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 contradicting Martinez completely Isn't that pretty much word for word what Martinez said? Can't remember which interview but I thought I could remember him talking about game management. Could be wrong, As usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I meant more that Roberto said we don't need to manage games better but Baines says exactly that we do, like Barry and Jags have said. Made me laugh anyway Maybe that's what I'm remembering haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Isn't that pretty much word for word what Martinez said? Can't remember which interview but I thought I could remember him talking about game management. Could be wrong, As usual. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/dont-question-game-management-says-10747294 “If we’d have been sitting here with a 3-2 victory it would be a completely different perception. The players don’t deserve to be questioned for their game management,” he rapped. “Do we need to be more ruthless? “No..." http://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2016/1/18/10785218/baines-everton-need-to-get-better-at-game-management "We got the first two goals in front of them, we were the better side but we have to manage the game better. We didn't do it; we have conceded three goals in a game where we were never really under that kind of pressure. "We did so well to get the three goals and get ourselves ahead in the game twice. We've only got ourselves to blame for not managing the game well enough really. "We went in front again, 3-2, and threw it away. The goal was offside but we have to manage games better. "If we're better at doing that we're right in the mix for the Champions League but, over the course of the season, you end up where you deserve to be. So far as I see, thats a complete contradiction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/dont-question-game-management-says-10747294 http://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2016/1/18/10785218/baines-everton-need-to-get-better-at-game-management So far as I see, thats a complete contradiction Yep as Usual I got it wrong haha. But I knew he mentioned it :-S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/royal-blue-everton-should-never-10777665 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/revealed-leighton-baines-not-been-10864916 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 "At that point, as we always do, we allowed competition for places to ensure our levels were kept up from game to game. Bryan Oviedo did really, really well, the whole back four did, as did Joel Robles and they all kept their place. That continuity has given us a very good platform and thats what you want as a squad." Looks like Robles will continue along with mori and Jags. .. good. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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