duncanmckenzieismagic Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 http://myevertonnews.com/everton-and-arsenal-looking-to-sign-the-new-lukaku/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Arsenal interested in him according to Daily Mirror. 8 mil pounds is the fee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurgen1968 Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 As a seasonticket holder (KV Mechelen) in Belgium , i want to add something in this topic Batshuayi is a very talented player , no doubt But please , screen him also away from the pitch, Not a great professional, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 I read something about it today on Caughtoffside. Just to tell you what kind of source we're dealing with there, the article contained this gem: The Toffees, who already have two Belgiums on their books Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 I suggested him a couple of months ago: There's also 19-year-old Michy Batshuayi. He's very skilled on the ball and athletically gifted, but the two coaches he's had this year have both publicly complained about his effort in training, the first one actually didn't even play him because of his lack of effort. The Belgian U21 head coach also sent him back to his club because he had invited call girls to his hotel room. So there's character concerns, but he's very talented if someone could sort him out. post #11 in http://www.toffeetalk.com/index.php?/topic/25177-striker-affordable-scores-goals-not-too-old-name-one/ Here's his 16 goals in 21 league games so far this season. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwsfAL4eHYM Very good finisher. He's also quite fast and strong and great touch and dribbling. I'd love to be able to get him in January and bring him on slowly as we still got Lukaku for the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 I read something about it today on Caughtoffside. Just to tell you what kind of source we're dealing with there, the article contained this gem: Wallonia and Flanders are Everton's best players I tell you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 I read something about it today on Caughtoffside. Just to tell you what kind of source we're dealing with there, the article contained this gem: mirallas and, technically, Lukaku... :dont know: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Belgians not Belgiums is the point he's making. Mirallas, Quinn31 and Aidan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Belgians not Belgiums is the point he's making.aaah, my bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 This is the player thought to be who we'll replace Jelavic with, with a deal rumoured to be close to being completed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 This is the player thought to be who we'll replace Jelavic with, with a deal rumoured to be close to being completed. Where's that from? He sounds perfect. A few twitter whispers about Martinez wanting Hernandez in the summer too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Where's that from? He sounds perfect. A few twitter whispers about Martinez wanting Hernandez in the summer too. Probably came from Twitter, all rumours seem to originate there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 This is the player thought to be who we'll replace Jelavic with, with a deal rumoured to be close to being completed. Sweet. Gotta love those sourceless hopegiving rumors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 I'm more inclined to think it might be dusan tadic or Tomas rincon Neither of them are centre forwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 i never said they where I'm only thinking quality players for that amount tadic scores goals. And available at the right price plus another loan striker. Okay, my bad. @tparry7390: any interest in Michy Batshuayi? "He is undoubtedly a talent with a great goalscoring return, but he is just 20 and is under contract until 2018 with Standard Liege. "That means he is likely to command a large fee, which in turn means he may be one for the summer if Lukaku returns to Chelsea, but not for now. "One to watch." http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reread-everton-fc-january-transfer-6478624 Is that the source for "Martinez has already denied wanting to sign Batshuayi to Greg O'Keeffe" btw? Because that seems more like speculation on his part than inside info imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Have not seen much of him so cant really comment. Is he any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Have not seen much of him so cant really comment. Is he any good? He could be good Premier League material, but no world class imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 This is according to Belgian newspapers: -he's supposedly available for €8m. -we're wanting to pay €6m of that and Belgian club Anderlecht will pay another €2m so we'll loan him out to them for the rest of the season. Belgian papers have been continually linking him with a move to England and then a loan to Anderlecht for about a month or even longer. Standard's owner has been adamant however that there is no longer a €8m release clause in his new contract and that they will not sell him in january. According to him, Standard don't want to sell him and he doesn't want to leave. But his agent is supposedly trying to earn some money. Anderlecht are trying to do the same with Thorgan Hazard. Zulte-Waregem's manager has recently said on a press conference that Hazard wants to stay, that there is no clause in their deal with Chelsea that could allow him to leave, that Chelsea have told him last week that they don't see the point in moving him to another Belgian club but that Anderlecht and his agent keep scheming and haven't even contacted him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Have not seen much of him so cant really comment. Is he any good? He's really good. He's had some problems with immaturity in the past, but he was 18/19 so that's nothing to troubling, and he has been a consistent performer for the best part of a year now and the Belgian pundits are noticing it too. They had one of the best managers in the Belgian league, Hein Van Haezebrouck, on and he argued he's more talented than Lukaku or Benteke. And they all seem to agree he's got the total package, unlike them. He can use his body to hold people off, he's got the touch with both feet to play in congested spaces, he's got the pace to get in behind of the line and he's got the flair and ability to make things happen on his own (unlike Benteke and Lukaku). I'd be very happy to get him and let him settle in behind Lukaku this year, so he can learn the language, etc, without too much pressure to perform immediately (he's only 20). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 I disagree with Steve_E. I think the best way to describe Batshuayi is: He doesn't excel at anything. He's good at dribbling, shooting, passing, speed, physical strength, insight and position play, but he doesn't really excel at any of those. He will probably never be better than for instance Benteke, Sturridge or Dzeko in their primes. But he has it in him to become a titular for the striker position of a mid-table EPL team. That's good, but I don't really rate him much higher that that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Better than Jelavic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) Better than Jelavic? Totally different, I'd say Batshuayi is more of a striker that uses his physique and does more runs than Jelavic. If you can compare his style to anything in the premier league (this is always dangerous) I'd say... Sturridge. Although he's probably not as fast as Sturridge and he will need more development to come anywhere near Sturridge. heck here's a youtube video with some of his work: edit: but if you're really asking in an abstract way if he's 'better' or 'worse' than a very irregular player as Jelavic, I'd say... similar. But that's always a gamble. He has less experience than Jela, but his performances are more consistent. A Jelavic on top of his game will probably outscore Batshuayi, but how often does it happen that he's in good form. I could be wwrong you know... You would have expected Benteke to become as prolific as he was fot Villa last season? Edited January 11, 2014 by Mirallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Thanks for you insights Steve_E and Mirallas, sounds like he is worth a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) I like the Sturridge comparison in terms of style. There's little point in argueing about whether he excels at something or is merely good at it, but in my opinion he's going to be very very good. I agree he doesn't exactly excel in either pace or power, but he has got both of it. Just look at how many times he's one on one with the goal keeper in the following clips. But the most important part for me is that his one touch passing with his back to goal, his link up play, with both feet is excellent and that he can run at people and beat them. He's really agile too. From time to time he'll jump into the air, reach for some long ball through the air with his leg up almost above his head and he'll get it under control, that's the kind of stuff that convinces me he's going to be very good. He can get involved in the attack. Plus he's an excellent finisher imo, he puts the ball into the goal where it fits, from all angles. He's also used to defending from the front as Standard are generally very agressive defending high up, very physical, in your face side. Here's his goals this season again. The first one is impressive as it was right at the end of the game, he went on a huge run, barely stayed on his feet a couple of times and put it in. The one at the 2 minute mark shows his combination of power, balance and technique, great finish while turning while shrugging of some dude on his back. The next goal is again just the good first touch with a defender right on him and then a fantastic shot from distance. 3:05 and 3:23 again showcases his coolness in the box. And at the 5 minute mark, that's just a brilliant bit of improvisation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwsfAL4eHYM And here's some more skills and goals from previous seasons. You should look at all of it as there's some pretty stuff, but definitely check the dribble on the goal line at 1:26 and 2:02. Look at 3:13 for effort, power and vision. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBbVw9zInUA And don't forget he's just 20. We're probably not gonna be able to afford the proven, finished article, definitely not at the very expensive centre forward position. We're probably not going to be able to afford Lukaku for example. So I know a lot of people, like myself, say we should just buy "the next one". Well, he is the next one coming out of Belgium. I would definitely take a punt at €8m. In any case, he's better than Carlos Bacca and 7 years younger ;p. Edited January 11, 2014 by Steve_E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Should I copyright the term "Batshu' crazy"? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Wow he looks a player. I got a kindle for Chrimbo and downloaded a short autobiography of Martinez when he was as Swansea and his philosophy's haven't changed . He had the know how of wanting and buying players early and developing them as he knew he couldn't afford the finished article. This lad looks like someone who can Roberto can work with and improve and the whole outlook and potential we have as a club with all the youngsters coming through gives me a semi on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Wow he looks a player. I got a kindle for Chrimbo and downloaded a short autobiography of Martinez when he was as Swansea and his philosophy's haven't changed . He had the know how of wanting and buying players early and developing them as he knew he couldn't afford the finished article. This lad looks like someone who can Roberto can work with and improve and the whole outlook and potential we have as a club with all the youngsters coming through gives me a semi on That reads a bit a wrong I don't get a semi on thinking of youngsters I will have you know EFC-Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 In any case, he's better than Carlos Bacca and 7 years younger ;p. Don't be ridiculous, Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msloan78 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 In relation to the comment above. Given the chance would we sign Benteke, Sturridge or Dzeko? Yes on all 3 counts, so sounds like a decent shout if we could get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efc1111 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Not much substance to the story, but Alan Nixon reckons we're about to trigger the release clause for this lad: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-news-michy-batshuayi-3012568? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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