Romey 1878 Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 I wish he could cross. Other than that he's growing game by game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 I wish he could cross. Other than that he's growing game by game. Me too but I do think he'll be moved centrally in the near future though Definitely another gem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 I wish he could cross. Other than that he's growing game by game. I thought some of his crosses were great, especially the one to Lukaku near the end. Some were low, admittedly, but a couple of those worked out well too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 I thought he got caught out a couple of times against Leicester but today he hardly put a foot wrong. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 just realized today i don't think we will get a RB to cover for coleman this summer, Holgate has been excellent there. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 just realized today i don't think we will get a RB to cover for coleman this summer, Holgate has been excellent there. We will need one to cover Holgate tho as Seamus will be out for several months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 just realized today i don't think we will get a RB to cover for coleman this summer, Holgate has been excellent there. Ye now I think of it he must be close to MoM. Excellent today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 We will need one to cover Holgate tho as Seamus will be out for several months. Kenny it will be. Other positions far more important. Or go 3 at the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnderToff Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Ye now I think of it he must be close to MoM. Excellent today. Really?? Got a bit of the ball, but was almost always stationary and playing the ball sideways or back. Passes were poor as well, underhit or just off target. Saw a lot of turnovers coming from him. Not writing him off, just wasn't impressed today. Although I can say that about whole team today... Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 He's doing ok as a stand in, but surely everyone can see we miss Seamus massively? We need a right back, we have done for years. Mason is a centre half doing his best out of position. In the same way Galloway did ok when Baines was out. They look alright because they are still good footballers, but full backs are a specialist position and we need specialists. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 He's doing ok as a stand in, but surely everyone can see we miss Seamus massively? We need a right back, we have done for years. Mason is a centre half doing his best out of position. In the same way Galloway did ok when Baines was out. They look alright because they are still good footballers, but full backs are a specialist position and we need specialists. He's a hindrance to our attacking play because of this. If we're going to play without width in midfield then we need our full-backs to be excellent going forward. Holgate is nowhere near good enough at that aspect - as has been pointed out he'll get the ball and turn backwards or pass back infield. And the few occasions he does try and run forward with the ball he is dispossessed most times. He did put one cracking ball into the box yesterday but I wouldn't even have him as back-up RB, he'd be back-up to the back-up for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Exactly Mark. Can't fault his effort, but it's not his skill set. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 He's doing ok as a stand in, but surely everyone can see we miss Seamus massively? We need a right back, we have done for years. Mason is a centre half doing his best out of position. In the same way Galloway did ok when Baines was out. They look alright because they are still good footballers, but full backs are a specialist position and we need specialists. [emoji1303] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 He's doing ok as a stand in, but surely everyone can see we miss Seamus massively? We need a right back, we have done for years. Mason is a centre half doing his best out of position. In the same way Galloway did ok when Baines was out. They look alright because they are still good footballers, but full backs are a specialist position and we need specialists. This for me I want to see the lad moved into his natural position, as said he's no RB but he has all the tools to become a very good potentially top center half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 I'm hoping we go in for RB cover s Holgate can move across and start getting CB experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 He's doing ok as a stand in, but surely everyone can see we miss Seamus massively? We need a right back, we have done for years. Mason is a centre half doing his best out of position. In the same way Galloway did ok when Baines was out. They look alright because they are still good footballers, but full backs are a specialist position and we need specialists. I completely agree but knowing Everton we will say he is fine till Seamus recovers and strengthen elsewhere. Vault me on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 Certainly feel that he has looked his best on the right side of a back three. He is energetic. Gets up and back but sadly does not have the same effect as Coleman in the final third. Noticed everyone saying he should be playing CB but in no way does he displace Williams for me. Williams has that right sided CB spot on lock when we are using four at the back. Bet Koeman feels the same way and it's why we see Holgate at RB. I am stoked we have someone so young and versatile in the squad. Getting experience and certainly has room to grow/learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 25, 2017 Report Share Posted April 25, 2017 I think a lot people who said he is a centre half didn't mean he should be taking someone's place. Just that it's his best position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Certainly feel that he has looked his best on the right side of a back three. He is energetic. Gets up and back but sadly does not have the same effect as Coleman in the final third. Noticed everyone saying he should be playing CB but in no way does he displace Williams for me. Williams has that right sided CB spot on lock when we are using four at the back. Bet Koeman feels the same way and it's why we see Holgate at RB. I am stoked we have someone so young and versatile in the squad. Getting experience and certainly has room to grow/learn. It's his natural position it's not to suggest he jumps ahead of anyone but when we are being linked with £20/30m moves for other young CB's when we need cover at RB and possibly LB when we have Holgate who's more than capable imo of filling that void centrally Jags is knocking on and Mori doesn't fill me with confidence to be honest I'm still not sold on him Plus most young defender's are played out wide before then get moved centrally its common practice, he's done well but he's no wingback Edited April 26, 2017 by EFC-Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mason-holgate-im-developing-skills-13453719.amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 Erm, ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 I'm glad he's developing his skills in that position, but hopefully center-back is where he sees his future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 He's out of the England U21s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Hope he does, he needs game time. I actually feel comfortable when he is on the pitch. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 53 minutes ago, Shukes said: Hope he does, he needs game time. I actually feel comfortable when he is on the pitch. This IF Jags can't manage constant games and Williams keeps his under par performances up I want to see him given a chance to bed himself in at CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 With the performances the defence has put in lately im sure Holgate is wondering how poor he is in Koemans eyes. pete0 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, EFC-Paul said: This IF Jags can't manage constant games and Williams keeps his under par performances up I want to see him given a chance to bed himself in at CB RB is the best you can hope for I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Yeah, wouldn't fancy him at CH, but should be in at RB now, surely Koeman can't play coco the clown again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 19 hours ago, Bill said: Yeah, wouldn't fancy him at CH, but should be in at RB now, surely Koeman can't play coco the clown again. It's his natural position he's a better option than Cuco the clown at RB but the lad isn't a RB and certainly not a RWB I'd much rather have him there than Williams with how poor him and Martina have been I'd rather chuck him centrally and start Kenny at RB let the lads gain experience they can't do much worse than the shower of shit we've witnessed thus far although I know it won't happen like JTStanley1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 I've liked Holgate at CB as well, had a couple rough matches in a row last year and was moved back to RB. Not sure if i'd rather him at RB so Martina doesn't play or CB so williams doesn't play. Between a rock and a hard place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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