Romey 1878 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 complete polar opposite for me, he should be starting in place of Gana and alongside him after AFCON! Fella next to me kept saying "get involved" Davies. I was sat there thinking the same thing quite a lot, more so in the first half than the second half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Fella next to me kept saying "get involved" Davies. I was sat there thinking the same thing quite a lot, more so in the first half than the second halfwe are talking about the scrawny kid with the daft hair, right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 we are talking about the scrawny kid with the daft hair, right?? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Yes.well, I look forward to you being proven wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Seems like the pundits are raving about his performance as well. Saying that for those who haven't seen it and get chance...watch this kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 McNally is at this moment is raving about Davies thinks he's a proper player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 He has all the talent to be a star, should be a regular from now on. Must get Morgan now so he has somebody to partner in midfield! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 well, I look forward to you being proven wrong Have I said he's shit? I've actually said he looks a player, I just don't think he was as amazing as others think he was today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Played well in patches. Only word to describe him without the ball though is "erratic". Yep, against better opposition he'll be exposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Have I said he's shit? I've actually said he looks a player, I just don't think he was as amazing as others think he was today. I agree, he looks a bit of a headless chicken when he's off the ball. I appreciate he's keen as fuck. He had an excellent full debut but was hardly outstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Seems like the pundits are raving about his performance as well. Saying that for those who haven't seen it and get chance...watch this kid.Didn't and can't wait, ever since his first cameo appearance been shouting for this lad to take Barry's place, after a few minutes you could see he had the energy we've been lacking, but that said he still obviously needs a bit of direction and that's something for the coaching staff to work on, but keep him in from what I'm hearing sounds like a breath of fresh air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Have I said he's shit? I've actually said he looks a player, I just don't think he was as amazing as others think he was today.no, I meant seeing his work-rate during the game. I only noticed him so much because he was constantly on camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 no, I meant seeing his work-rate during the game. I only noticed him so much because he was constantly on camera When have I mentioned his work-rate? He ran about loads but I wanted him to actually touch the ball more. That's what I meant about involvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 no, I meant seeing his work-rate during the game. I only noticed him so much because he was constantly on camera That's because he was running after the ball like it was iron and he was a magnet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 It's interesting that the guys I assume were at the game (season ticket holders still?)...Paddock, MC and Rom have the same view, but opposing views to those who watched from the sofa. Can't really argue against one or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 When have I mentioned his work-rate? He ran about loads but I wanted him to actually touch the ball more. That's what I meant about involvement.you said "get more involved" or words to that effect. I understood that as he wasn't getting stuck in, seems I misunderstood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Ye strange that your neighbor said get in the game when he seemed to be always available and chasing everything. Even got himself an assist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Let's not get into an all out ding-dong about the lad. He did well. Statistically he was up there with the best players tonight. But, he maybe does need to learn to chanel his energy more effectively. Can't accuse him of hiding though!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I'm. Not saying he was poor, he played welland had an excellent debut but I don't think he was MotM or was superb. He's full of energy and running but MCs "erratic" comment is spot on. He's allover the place but he's out of position a lot and he looks like he'll have a red card or two in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Don't think anyone's having a "ding dong", just very surprised and trying to understand the other point of view His running epitomised the pressing football that we've wanted for so long. Ok, it might need refining but for his first full debut I thought he was excellent and didn't hide; if anything he was the one most actively looking for responsibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Don't think anyone's having a "ding dong", just very surprised and trying to understand the other point of view Let's not have a ding-dong because I'm trying to stop us having a ding-dong. I know this forum likes it's ding-dong's. And that ding-dong's can start from almost anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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c1982 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 He looked lively but must agree with he was okay rather than star of the show. He does give it away a fair bit and could be exposed - he gets a free pass because of his age off our crowd, when Barkley does it it's all moans and groans. I think it was the perfect game for Davies today against a very tired Southampton. He needs easing in but there's certainly a very bright future for this lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Let's not have a ding-dong because I'm trying to stop us having a ding-dong. I know this forum likes it's ding-dong's. And that ding-dong's can start from almost anything. Funny and also true ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Let's not have a ding-dong because I'm trying to stop us having a ding-dong. I know this forum likes it's ding-dong's. And that ding-dong's can start from almost anything. Don't start Newts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Let's not have a ding-dong because I'm trying to stop us having a ding-dong. I know this forum likes it's ding-dong's. And that ding-dong's can start from almost anything. It takes a ding-dong to start a ding-dong. What we really need is a constructive to and fro: a ping-pong, if you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 ...or, after a 3-0 win, a sing-song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 ...or, after a 3-0 win, a sing-song. ...or a reach around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I think people are expecting a little too much from him. For his first proper start this season he was very good. Our midfielders are all headless chickens and that is why it works because they are running around trying to cover a lot of ground. Gana is the same, McCarthy too, Barry not so much. I was expecting him to do that, to be dynamic and get around the pitch but I wasn't expecting him to have that awareness on the ball and play some of the quality passes he did. Good on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I think people are expecting a little too much from him. For his first proper start this season he was very good. Our midfielders are all headless chickens and that is why it works because they are running around trying to cover a lot of ground. Gana is the same, McCarthy too, Barry not so much. I was expecting him to do that, to be dynamic and get around the pitch but I wasn't expecting him to have that awareness on the ball and play some of the quality passes he did. Good on him. Gans is far from a headless chicken, he reads the game superbly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Gans is far from a headless chicken, he reads the game superbly. Yeh ok that is being unfair but what I mean is that they are almost going from one tackle to the next, they don't have any real control on the game. Besic is definitely a headless chicken because he sees the ball and goes for it regardless of anything else, and neither Gana or Davies are like that but they are asked to be all action in the middle and not run the game like Barry could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/16756/production/_93209919_davies_touchmap.jpg Didn't really work from my phone, full report here http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/38433524 Edited January 2, 2017 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 So what about Davies (and Calvert-Lewis) of late has altered for them to be involved, I mean, McCarthy was out earlier in the season so it's not his recent injury that has made way..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 So what about Davies (and Calvert-Lewis) of late has altered for them to be involved, I mean, McCarthy was out earlier in the season so it's not his recent injury that has made way.....He's been reading TTF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 So what about Davies (and Calvert-Lewis) of late has altered for them to be involved, I mean, McCarthy was out earlier in the season so it's not his recent injury that has made way..... I think it's the slow realisation that he needs energy in the middle of the park rather than overall ability. If you play long ball, you don't need quality in midfield, just hard working ball winners jumping on the second ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I think it's the slow realisation that he needs energy in the middle of the park rather than overall ability. If you play long ball, you don't need quality in midfield, just hard working ball winners jumping on the second ball.That and the old guard weren't doing it for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I think it's the slow realisation that he needs energy in the middle of the park rather than overall ability. If you play long ball, you don't need quality in midfield, just hard working ball winners jumping on the second ball. Oh dear, not another pig-thick mug that can't see the wood for the trees. (Only joking Ron mate, kick clown-shoes in the balls for me though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I think it's the slow realisation that he needs energy in the middle of the park rather than overall ability. If you play long ball, you don't need quality in midfield, just hard working ball winners jumping on the second ball. I think also he and gana make forward runs which mean both Rom and Ross are finding more space. Tom's that good balance of energy and ability on the ball. He's only Going to get better. I hope we sign another CM before city though because we are short at the moment without Gana, Jmac and Besic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 He looked lively but must agree with he was okay rather than star of the show. He does give it away a fair bit and could be exposed - he gets a free pass because of his age off our crowd, when Barkley does it it's all moans and groans. I think it was the perfect game for Davies today against a very tired Southampton. He needs easing in but there's certainly a very bright future for this lad. Bingo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Was happy with Davies' performance today but let's not kid ourselves. He's a prospect for the future and fans clamouring for him to start is damning of the squad. We need to bring in quality players in the midfield. We need players who can make their mark on a game, command possession, win challenges and spray the ball about. That's not to say that Davies isn't going to be a good player but that we are relying on a youth prospect because we have nobody else. Only because we have no one else who plays the way we need our midfielders to which is the difference. McCarthy and probably Besic would normally be ahead of him but with their injuries and the limited mobility or Barry he is next in line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Only because we have no one else who plays the way we need our midfielders to which is the difference. McCarthy and probably Besic would normally be ahead of him but with their injuries and the limited mobility or Barry he is next in line. Bes out all season, McCarthy out 95% of theseason so far. Labour the point but why suddenly now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Because Barry has been extremely bad and Koeman notices this when McCarthy stepped in for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Because Barry has been extremely bad and Koeman notices this when McCarthy stepped in for him. Well I'm glad Lukaku has been fit, because god knows which keeper Koeman would have picked to play striker..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 No ones kidding their selves. He started and didn't look out of place. Is he the answer? Course not, but he made a difference in the current squad and is good enough and ready for starting....as he himself proved. We can argue all the becauses in the world, doesn't alter the fact that he started and performed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 I thought he was excellent. His whole game is keeping the ball moving, being tidy and the odd risky run forward. For a kid of 18 he did a great job for me. Also linked up well with Ross and a great pass for the final goal. Deserves to start against Leicester. MikeO and nutmegwolf203 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 So, how long do we reckon it'll be until we see the papers try and sell him to Chelsea, City, United? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 So... do we reckon he's ready to start yet? Mate of mine said in pub when he scored, 'you don't want him doing that during the transfer window'! Sent from my Fusion5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 I'd be hesitant to start Davies without Barry. Barry mentors him through and it spread across the whole team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 He is doing everything he should be doing whilst Gueye is away on international duty but I fully expect Gueye to find himself back in the first XI upon his return. Schneiderlin too, when fully up to speed, will get in ahead of him so unfortunately he will go back on the bench and make cameo appearances. He's progressing very nicely though and certainly will keep the others on their toes. It's no surprise McCarthy is rumoured to be on the way out. Davies looks ahead of him in the pecking order right now. i don't believe for a moment we will get rid of McCarthy. It's just fine to have competition in midfield. It's where games are won and lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) Yeah, but we have too many central midfielders. Barry, McCarthy, Besic, Schneiderlin, Gana, Davies, Barkley and .... Gibson? And we still have Cleverly on permanent. I guess Koeman wants to keep him, but McCarthy himself said that he wants to play regularly. Something that can't happen obviously, so he better go. I hope we get some reasonable cash for him. Edited January 16, 2017 by Haiku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/jan/15/everton-tom-davies-ensures-pep-guardiola-knows-name-manchester-city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Yeah, but we have too many central midfielders. Barry, McCarthy, Besic, Schneiderlin, Gana, Davies, Barkley and .... Gibson? And we still have Cleverly on permanent. I guess Koeman wants to keep him, but McCarthy himself said that he wants to play regularly. Something that can't happen obviously, so he better go. I hope we get some reasonable cash for him.We never had enough last week. Competition is good, just hope the manager picks in form and tactically rather than a pecking order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Found out yesterday he went to the secondary school I went to (West Derby Comp.) which would make him one of, if not the first big named footballer to be a former pupil of there which is great seeing as the Catholic equivalent (and direct rivals!) of that school is Cardel Heenan which produced a lot of former footballers including Gerrard, Hibbo and Nugent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 You could tell how much it meant to him when he scored. It wasn't just happiness about scoring the goal -- it seemed that it genuinely meant the world to him that he had scored for Everton. I love seeing players celebrate with fans. Romey 1878 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aaron Posted January 16, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 You could tell how much it meant to him when he scored. It wasn't just happiness about scoring the goal -- it seemed that it genuinely meant the world to him that he had scored for Everton. I love seeing players celebrate with fans. And the ref didn't book him for it which was a nice touch Lowensda, Romey 1878, nutmegwolf203 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 And the ref didn't book him for it which was a nice touch I thought that at the time. Finally, Twattenberg has a heart. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 I thought that at the time. Finally, Twattenberg has a heart. or he was doing his standard shit job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 or he was doing his standard shit job It's probably the most likely.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Yeah nice tough from the ref. Knew how much it meant to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jan/16/everton-tom-davies-leighton-baines-manchester-city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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