Sibdane Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 I stand by my opinion that he's not ready to be a regular starter. Not just a knee-jerk over today's game either, he drifts in and out of games such that for long periods you don't even know he's on the pitch. Today, though, it just was a game that was just so beyond him. I feel he was set up to fail with that formation against Spurs. Not disagreeing with you, but no one looked good in midfield bar Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 I stand by my opinion that he's not ready to be a regular starter. Not just a knee-jerk over today's game either, he drifts in and out of games such that for long periods you don't even know he's on the pitch. Today, though, it just was a game that was just so beyond him. Completely agree. Take the blue tint off and he's been mostly average bar a game or 2. Needs time to sub in from the bench. Gana and schneiderlin both looked a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 I feel he was set up to fail with that formation against Spurs. Not disagreeing with you, but no one looked good in midfield bar Barkley. I agree the formation didn't help him but today's game was much too fast for him. So I don't think he was going to do well today no matter where he was played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Completely agree. Take the blue tint off and he's been mostly average bar a game or 2. Needs time to sub in from the bench. Gana and schneiderlin both looked a lot better.I thought Gana was the worst player in the pitch. Positionally all over the place, and on the ball kept playing us in to danger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 I thought Gana was the worst player in the pitch. Positionally all over the place, and on the ball kept playing us in to danger. He was intercepting balls left and right and stopping their attack. Making tackles and defending: not sure what you want from a defensive mid but that and a nice forward pass are what I look for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 He has the quality, but he does not have the experience of playing at the pace spurs played at today. The set up didn't help him either. The more he plays the better he will get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 I feel he was set up to fail with that formation against Spurs. Not disagreeing with you, but no one looked good in midfield bar Barkley.this for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Is 18. Remember when Barkley was 19/20 and the shouts were his inconsistency was due to being involved too much too young? Davies ought to be used sparringly, especially in such a turned around selection and setup like today, expecting total football from a just broken through youngster smacks of over expectation. Hopefully we can avoid the grinding down of him (like what happened with Barkley). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 He wasn't great today, but far from the worst in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 He's nowhere near the natural talent Barkley had. Davies is more of an erratic in ya face type player. Barkley just oozed class. So comfortable on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 He's nowhere near the natural talent Barkley had. Davies is more of an erratic in ya face type player. Barkley just oozed class. So comfortable on the ball. For every Thomas Gravesen there needs to be a Lee Carsley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Still only in the England U19 squad, think he deserved a first U-21 call-up personally. Romey 1878 and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Still only in the England U19 squad, think he deserved a first U-21 call-up personally. Yeah, would've been the right progression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-mirallas-reveals-message-gave-12777066 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Still only in the England U19 squad, think he deserved a first U-21 call-up personally. Wasn't even on the bench . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 We're upsetting the established order. Doesn't surprise me they leave our players in the wilderness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 We're upsetting the established order. Doesn't surprise me they leave our players in the wilderness. I was more thinking he might have got injured, because he was set to captain the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Hope not. Derby jinx again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) Tom would be well up for a Derby too. Edited March 24, 2017 by AidanLewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 I think there's a good chance he'll get sent off if he starts in the Derby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 I think there's a good chance he'll get sent off if he starts in the Derby. By no means is that a good thing but Christ, how long has it been since someone injected a bit of passionate aggression into the Derby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 By no means is that a good thing but Christ, how long has it been since someone injected a bit of passionate aggression into the Derby? mori got sent off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/03/24/davies-captains-young-lions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Good for Davies. On a night of real dissapointment he comes through again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Good for Davies. On a night of real dissapointment he comes through again. We need to invest in a massive sheet of bubblewrap. Fuck funding the new stadium, this needs to come first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 He's just signed new 5 year deal Sibdane and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Excellent news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 He's just signed new 5 year deal congrats tom!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Well earned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Well deserved and great for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Weird one really. Barkley's contract is running down but apparently we can afford to leave that one for a while. Davies isn't going anywhere but we've given him a new deal after a handful of appearances . Nice pay rise for the kid though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Weird one really. Barkley's contract is running down but apparently we can afford to leave that one for a while. Davies isn't going anywhere but we've given him a new deal after a handful of appearances . Nice pay rise for the kid though. Barkley is likely waiting on rom to sign a deal and playing hard ball to get a giver wage. Don't blame the lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Anyone seen any rumours of how much he's on? Just out of interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Anyone seen any rumours of how much he's on? Just out of interest. Nope, but I can't imagine it'll be higher than 40k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 So stoked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Weird one really. Barkley's contract is running down but apparently we can afford to leave that one for a while. Davies isn't going anywhere but we've given him a new deal after a handful of appearances . Nice pay rise for the kid though. Davies was probably a piece of piss to sort out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Weird one really. Barkley's contract is running down but apparently we can afford to leave that one for a while. Davies isn't going anywhere but we've given him a new deal after a handful of appearances . Nice pay rise for the kid though. Over the longer term i reckon Davies will prove to be the better option tbh, Barkley has to suffer from idiot fans shouting at him, the rubbish with the national team everytime he gets selected, and he has been fairly slow to get going in his career, it's only this season he is really starting to show some proper form. Maybe the club just see Davies as the future and want to tie him down before someone else comes chasing after him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Over the longer term i reckon Davies will prove to be the better option tbh, Barkley has to suffer from idiot fans shouting at him, the rubbish with the national team everytime he gets selected, and he has been fairly slow to get going in his career, it's only this season he is really starting to show some proper form. Maybe the club just see Davies as the future and want to tie him down before someone else comes chasing after him. Not really sure how any if that is relevant to letting Barkley's contract run down tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Barkley isn't playing hard ball... he hasn't been offered a contract yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Barkley isn't playing hard ball... he hasn't been offered a contract yet. How do you know this info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 How do you know this info? I'm as sure as everyone else is that thinks he has been offered one. Haven't seen one report saying he was offered one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) I'm as sure as everyone else is that thinks he has been offered one. Haven't seen one report saying he was offered one. Not everyone. I don't think he's been offered one either . Edit - well, that clearly isn't how you do that emoticon . Edited April 4, 2017 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 I'm as sure as everyone else is that thinks he has been offered one. Haven't seen one report saying he was offered one. Koeman said a few weeks ago that he was offered a contract? When he was on about both Barkleys and Lukaku's contracts. Basically he said if he does not sign then he must be sold because then his intentions are elsewhere. I'm sure we spoke about it on here somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 This is the interview I am on about. But reading it again, I'm not too sure what's what to be honest!!! http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ross-barkley-contract-sign-sold-12751425 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Not everyone. I don't think he's been offered one either Edit - well, that clearly isn't how you do that emoticon . Trying it without the full stop. Did it work??? EDIT: Nope!!! Edited April 4, 2017 by Newty82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Not everyone. I don't think he's been offered one either Edit - well, that clearly isn't how you do that emoticon . just had to remove your grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Trying it without the full stop. Did it work??? EDIT: Nope!!! weird, must be a limit of the quote function Nope! Louis, Mike - did you clean up the emoticons recently? Edited April 4, 2017 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 just had to remove your grammar weird, must be a limit of the quote function Nope! Louis, Mike - did you clean up the emoticons recently? Haha you cock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Haha you cock! last time I try an help you Oh, yeah.... Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Is there a shaking fist or not?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 weird, must be a limit of the quote function Nope! Louis, Mike - did you clean up the emoticons recently? No :shaking fist:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Another game when I don't know what he's actually done. I want to be blown away by him like the rest of you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Another game when I don't know what he's actually done. I want to be blown away by him like the rest of you . wasnt his best game by a long way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Another game when I don't know what he's actually done. I want to be blown away by him like the rest of you . Poor today but Valencia was literally our only other senior player available! I'm glad Koeman cleared the likes of Gibson and Oviedo out but we could have done with a couple more senior players in!!! Great experience for the youngsters I suppose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Another game when I don't know what he's actually done. I want to be blown away by him like the rest of you . I think the main issue is that he's been jammed into the team at AM since buying Schneiderlein and getting Gana back (plus playing Ross out wide). I don't think it's a coincidence that his first few games were his best for us, when played next to Barry in a box-to-box role. We just need to get a marque playmaker and use him as a rotation player next season. Can't afford to rely on an 18 week in and week out anyway. Edit: Plus injuries are certainly a factor. Could've been McCarthy playing that same role if he wasn't out. Edited April 4, 2017 by Vranny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 He was a poor mans McCarthy today. Harried then on defense and tried to intercept but offered little in attack. He was gassed after 30 minutes too. Needs benching once Morgan comes back. Morgan Barry gana should be the mid 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 He was poor last night, think he needs to be taken out of the limelight and given a rest as soon as we get bodies back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 He was poor last night, think he needs to be taken out of the limelight and given a rest as soon as we get bodies back What is everyone expecting? Didn't score 20 goals in one game? Oh, the woe. Thought his pressing in the first half was much needed. Once second half started / the subs happened / the shape changed he drifted out of it but he wasn't the only one guilty of it. Still stoked on this young player. All that being said, cannot wait for Morgan to be back. No one in midfield keeps that rolls royce out the side. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Only one who closes players down properly. Thought he held his own. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 I thought he was largely anonymous, just couldn't get himself into the game but still worked hard. They are 2 big games for him in the space of a few days. Mentally that will take its toll on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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