Aidan Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 You want a half-decent striker? Better than Welbeck by a long way we should be hoping for. Welbeck could have it all if he wasn't so injury prone IMO. If he played a couple of full seasons he'd be banging them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Welbeck could have it all if he wasn't so injury prone IMO. If he played a couple of full seasons he'd be banging them in. IMO if he hadn't come through at United no one would ever speak about him. He misses far too many chances even if you take his terrible injury record out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 IMO if he hadn't come through at United no one would ever speak about him. He misses far too many chances even if you take his terrible injury record out of it. I guess it's hard to defend someone whose never had a good run of form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 I guess it's hard to defend someone whose never had a good run of form. Haf's given it a damn good go in the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Welbeck will be in the same realm as Walcott.. made of glass. Pity because regardless of what people say he is a well rounded striker. Tremendous athlete who if had been given a central role at United would have been far better. He was unfortunate to have had rooney, ronaldo, van persie, berbatov etc all in ahead of him. Says alot when rio ferdinand said he would be the first man united player he'd sign if he was a manager - from the perspective of how he found him to play against in training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Welbeck will be in the same realm as Walcott.. made of glass. Pity because regardless of what people say he is a well rounded striker. Tremendous athlete who if had been given a central role at United would have been far better. He was unfortunate to have had rooney, ronaldo, van persie, berbatov etc all in ahead of him. Says alot when rio ferdinand said he would be the first man united player he'd sign if he was a manager - from the perspective of how he found him to play against in training. And the fact he is always injured. I've never highly rated him or thought he was crap, he can be a decent player but if you're not on the pitch to be a decent player, you're useless. See Darron Gibson for details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 And the fact he is always injured. I've never highly rated him or thought he was crap, he can be a decent player but if you're not on the pitch to be a decent player, you're useless. See Darron Gibson for details correction - he can be a very very good player. Unless people seem to think that your average joe striker can operate as a lone striker against Real Madrid in two legs and run them ragged then fair enough. "when fit" he is a very good player and does a lot of work that goes unnoticed. I've seen him enough times against us to realise you can't leave him alone for one second, quick, good feet and can finish - his goal for arsenal against us as an example, smart interplay and a good finish in the gwladys street end. Sure - if we all had crystal balls and could see a players potential injury issues then we could leave alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 correction - he can be a very very good player. Unless people seem to think that your average joe striker can operate as a lone striker against Real Madrid in two legs and run them ragged then fair enough. "when fit" he is a very good player and does a lot of work that goes unnoticed. I've seen him enough times against us to realise you can't leave him alone for one second, quick, good feet and can finish - his goal for arsenal against us as an example, smart interplay and a good finish in the gwladys street end. Sure - if we all had crystal balls and could see a players potential injury issues then we could leave alone. Actually I got my tenses wrong, it should be "could be" because it's completely conditional on him staying fit, which unfortunately he can't do. At 25 he's still young enough to turn it around but given his track record of injuries it doesn't look promising. Shame for him really, the ability is there. Hopefully Dominic has better luck injury wise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Actually I got my tenses wrong, it should be "could be" because it's completely conditional on him staying fit, which unfortunately he can't do. At 25 he's still young enough to turn it around but given his track record of injuries it doesn't look promising. Shame for him really, the ability is there. Hopefully Dominic has better luck injury wise! the one thing I learned from injuries myself is that its not a case of being prone - its when you get "the one" that triggers everything else. Up till I did my knee in at 26 I had played on awful pitches and not had a thing. From then on in I was injured all the time. Look at Baines now - he's been ultra reliable for years, now he seems to be picking up knocks all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 the one thing I learned from injuries myself is that its not a case of being prone - its when you get "the one" that triggers everything else. Up till I did my knee in at 26 I had played on awful pitches and not had a thing. From then on in I was injured all the time. Look at Baines now - he's been ultra reliable for years, now he seems to be picking up knocks all over the place. Think you know my injury record too by now, I completely agree that it makes it bloody hard to recover. Unless you're so damn stubborn like my dad who still plays twice a week despite being told 30 years ago to stop because his knees were gone. He can barely walk for a day aftermind you but it doesn't stop him and even now he turns people outside out because he's such an intelligent player - an Ossie / Barry mix of a player and always has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Think you know my injury record too by now, I completely agree that it makes it bloody hard to recover. Unless you're so damn stubborn like my dad who still plays twice a week despite being told 30 years ago to stop because his knees were gone. He can barely walk for a day aftermind you but it doesn't stop him and even now he turns people outside out because he's such an intelligent player - an Ossie / Barry mix of a player and always has been. I had a piece of bone removed from my ankle - the surgery was microscopic and should have taken 10 minutes. The surgeon was there when I woke to tell me that he spent nearly an hour cleaning up all sorts of scar tissue in and around my right ankle. My ankles had a honeycomb appearance that indicated Grade 4 arthritis... the cause? repeatedly spraining my ankle, not rehabilitating it correctly - strapping it up, injuring it again. Probably done both ankles 20+ times. so basically he told me not to play footy any more - in front of my wife, That kinda seals it, especially when they say you will struggle to walk in later life if you don't. Since then I have sprained my ankle just walking down the road and stepping on a slightly raised curb stone and rolling it - the ligaments have been stretched that much that they don't stop the ankle going over. Golf it is for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Don't you just love male bonding? marcopaulo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 No one mention you know who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Don't you just love male bonding? its wonderful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 its wonderful Group hug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Group hug. Mind if I skip this bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Group therapy would be more useful round here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Group therapy would be more useful round here! OK from now on only the person holding the talking stick can post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 I have the ugly stick if that will do. I can hit people with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Does anybody know if he's in the squad tomorrow with Kone injured, Valencia ineligible and Niasse maybe not even registered? He or Duffus are probably our next out and out striking options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Does anybody know if he's in the squad tomorrow with Kone injured, Valencia ineligible and Niasse maybe not even registered? He or Duffus are probably our next out and out striking options. He is registered, don't know why this keeps coming up . https://www.premierleague.com/news/84136 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 He is registered, don't know why this keeps coming up . https://www.premierleague.com/news/84136 It keeps coming up because he wasn't issued a squad number so people automatically think he isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 It keeps coming up because he wasn't issued a squad number so people automatically think he isn't. He was given a squad number. Just not originally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Tomorrow could be very telling for Niasse too then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 It keeps coming up because he wasn't issued a squad number so people automatically think he isn't. I'd have thought that people who were interested enough to know that he wasn't given a number would be people who follow Everton stories pretty closely; and it was widely reported that he'd been included in the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) Does anybody know if he's in the squad tomorrow with Kone injured, Valencia ineligible and Niasse maybe not even registered? He or Duffus are probably our next out and out striking options. He is in the squad http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3885932/Everton-include-young-forward-Dominic-Calvert-Lewin-team-squad-West-Ham-encounter.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Although I better set off for the match earlier than I planned to according to that article! Edited October 29, 2016 by duncanmckenzieismagic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Would love to see him get a run! Let's hope we really dust west ham here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 I won't be holding my breath that he'll actually get on the pitch but I'm pleased for him. If a kid who has only been here a few months is picked ahead of Niasse then I think it's safe to say there is zero chance of him ever featuring for us. As if we needed telling that like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 On the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-calvert-lewin-lukaku-koeman-12214278 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Looks a real prospect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Looks a real prospect Agreed! Hope he gets a run alongside Rom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 He should be on the bench every week along with Davies and Holgate, time to try and mix up the side cos the present set of players are not going to plan, we need some fresh faces. Should be given 10 or 20 minutes every game to give them a bit of experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 He should be on the bench every week along with Davies and Holgate, time to try and mix up the side cos the present set of players are not going to plan, we need some fresh faces. Should be given 10 or 20 minutes every game to give them a bit of experience. Koeman wants us to press from the front..... who is there to put pressure on Rom to do that? Naismith was the only player we had who would put in that type of work - now we don't have anyone. I'd give the kid a chance. Matt and SimonButtle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Koeman wants us to press from the front..... who is there to put pressure on Rom to do that? Naismith was the only player we had who would put in that type of work - now we don't have anyone. I'd give the kid a chance. Agree with this. Currently, there is no press up front. I only see the games on TV (and the camera is a ball watcher) but I have watched Rom carefully and when defenders are in possession, he makes a show of running towards them but after about three paces he stops and either stands still or ambles another few paces. We need someone up front with him to pressure defenders and encourage Rom to do likewise. He might well respond to a bit of help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Agree with this. Currently, there is no press up front. I only see the games on TV (and the camera is a ball watcher) but I have watched Rom carefully and when defenders are in possession, he makes a show of running towards them but after about three paces he stops and either stands still or ambles another few paces. We need someone up front with him to pressure defenders and encourage Rom to do likewise. He might well respond to a bit of help. To be honest there is little press from anyone. The odd one or two but not as a team as it should be. Regardless Lukaku is never going to do it that well and given Koeman's comments he won't be dropped so it wouldn't matter even if we had the duracell bunny on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Koeman wants us to press from the front..... who is there to put pressure on Rom to do that? Naismith was the only player we had who would put in that type of work - now we don't have anyone. I'd give the kid a chance. This is why I wanted Shane long, I think you need atleast one of those "types" of players in your squad that just bust a gut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Agree with this. Currently, there is no press up front. I only see the games on TV (and the camera is a ball watcher) but I have watched Rom carefully and when defenders are in possession, he makes a show of running towards them but after about three paces he stops and either stands still or ambles another few paces. We need someone up front with him to pressure defenders and encourage Rom to do likewise. He might well respond to a bit of help. I honestly don't think I've ever seen him win a ball off a defender. Naismith was awesome at it. That game where they have the bib... the ball passed round etc the way to win it is by sprinting not ambling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-teenager-calvert-lewin-koeman-12233274 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 He left on crutches with his ankle in a protective boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Can't help but feel sorry for him. I was excited to see what he could potentially do today. Hopefully, it's nothing too serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Hope it's just a precaution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 So disappointed for him. Two chances and a corner on the first 5 minutes down to his running behind. nutmegwolf203 and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Out for two months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Out for two months. Crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 What is it with us and injuries? Hope the lad gets another run in the team, he looks like an exciting prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 FFS, gotta feel for the lad. Hopefully this will make him more mentally strong and determined, got a good feeling about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 While I'm disappointed for him, two months will come and go quickly (hopefully). I feared it was worse than that at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 You know when a young lad goes down, try's to play on but goes down again... it's usually bad. Shame for the lad as that was one of the best five minute cameos in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Shame for him but it could be worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 He'll be alright, steep learning curve, shame its cut short appearances when hes just been chanced, character building. Get well soon DCL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Disappointing for the lad, just when he was getting a chance to break through. Hopefully he makes a speedy recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Koeman's presser today he's fit and will be in the matchday squad for West Brom (or is available to be). Great news!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Really happy to hear that. With him and Lookman coming through we have real exciting talent. London Blue and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Played well today. Was always trying to beat his man and looks strong even though he's so skinny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Played well today. Was always trying to beat his man and looks strong even though he's so skinny.thought he had some great moments but disappeared a lot and offered very little protection for Baines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 thought he had some great moments but disappeared a lot and offered very little protection for Baines We played a 433 matt he wasn't cover for baines, Davies was on the left of the midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 thought he had some great moments but disappeared a lot and offered very little protection for BainesBaines was shocking other than a cracking pass to Rom he didn't do anything, never made any runs to give DCL space or options and just hugged the touch line. Reminded me a bit of Gary Neville at the end of his career. Second to everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 We played a 433 matt he wasn't cover for baines, Davies was on the left of the midfield.Davies was everywhere across the field, DC-L mostly stayed out wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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