Davy Klaassen

[Shukes 4,561]

Thanks Dunc. Works great.

[Btay 2,249]

How did he go?

 

[Shukes 4,561]

He was involved a lot but didn’t make much of an impression for me. Seemed a less dynamic version of Gana, did t do anything special. Just collected the ball and moved it on simply. A mature game I suspose.

[Romey 1878 14,170]

2 hours ago, Shukes said:

He was involved a lot but didn’t make much of an impression for me. Seemed a less dynamic version of Gana, did t do anything special. Just collected the ball and moved it on simply. A mature game I suspose.

He hasn't played a game of any sort since December, so I'd have been surprised if he'd shown anything more to be honest.

Hopefully he gets a few games for the U23s in a row and shows more.

[duncanmckenzieismagic 5,450]

How did he go?
 

A few nice touches , but game passed him by for the most part. I had actually forgotten he was playing until he was subbed

[pete0 2,158]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/davy-klaassen-delighted-everton-return-14373744.amp

[Palfy 3,682]

Good for him he's been treated by Allardyce pretty much the same way as Koeman treated Niasse, he just needed a fair opportunity to adjust and he would have been a great addition to the squad.

I replayed his videos of him he's got bags of quality and he has the attitude we want at this club, which is don't cry and throw your dummy out the pram because you think your the bollocks, he's got head down arse up and work hard attitude and that needs rewarding.

And if people think that's wrong they are probably the same people who didn't want Niasse to be given another chance after he showed that if you act professionally and work hard you deserve a chance, and thankfully he took his or we would be deeper in the shit.

[nogs 1,260]

1 hour ago, Palfy said:

Good for him he's been treated by Allardyce pretty much the same way as Koeman treated Niasse, he just needed a fair opportunity to adjust and he would have been a great addition to the squad.

I replayed his videos of him he's got bags of quality and he has the attitude we want at this club, which is don't cry and throw your dummy out the pram because you think your the bollocks, he's got head down arse up and work hard attitude and that needs rewarding.

And if people think that's wrong they are probably the same people who didn't want Niasse to be given another chance after he showed that if you act professionally and work hard you deserve a chance, and thankfully he took his or we would be deeper in the shit.

Read Dunc's assessment of him in the U23 game. So far he has contributed nothing in a blue shirt. And to say he hasn't had a fair chance is bollocks, he's played ten times for us and his appearances got worse, not better. 

I'll change my opinion of him when he starts to show he's good enough. 

[pete0 2,158]

28 minutes ago, nogs said:

Read Dunc's assessment of him in the U23 game. So far he has contributed nothing in a blue shirt. And to say he hasn't had a fair chance is bollocks, he's played ten times for us and his appearances got worse, not better. 

I'll change my opinion of him when he starts to show he's good enough. 

I don't think you been say any midfielder has deserved to play every week. Klaassen should have had me minutes as should Baningime and Besic. 

Pickford aside no one has played good and consistently enough to play every week. 

[Palfy 3,682]

2 hours ago, nogs said:

Read Dunc's assessment of him in the U23 game. So far he has contributed nothing in a blue shirt. And to say he hasn't had a fair chance is bollocks, he's played ten times for us and his appearances got worse, not better. 

I'll change my opinion of him when he starts to show he's good enough. 

I read Unsworth’s he’s the manager and he rated him I think I’ll trust the opinions of the pro’s, you go where you want. 

[nogs 1,260]

2 hours ago, Palfy said:

I read Unsworth’s he’s the manager and he rated him I think I’ll trust the opinions of the pro’s, you go where you want. 

Unsworth dropped him from the senior side. He also talked glowingly about Jose Baxter when he came back last August. Maybe its time he got another chance in the first team... 

[Palfy 3,682]

9 minutes ago, nogs said:

Unsworth dropped him from the senior side. He also talked glowingly about Jose Baxter when he came back last August. Maybe its time he got another chance in the first team... 

So Unsworth doesn’t know what he’s talking about. 

[duncanmckenzieismagic 5,450]

I read Unsworth’s he’s the manager and he rated him I think I’ll trust the opinions of the pro’s, you go where you want. 

I read some of Unsworths comments regarding his attitude but not heard anything from him to say Klaassen plays well

If he did say that then I really do think we made the right decision not giving him the managers job !

[Palfy 3,682]

37 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

I read some of Unsworths comments regarding his attitude but not heard anything from him to say Klaassen plays well

If he did say that then I really do think we made the right decision not giving him the managers job !

 

I thought you were one who wanted to stick with Unsworth at the time, maybe I got that wrong.

Wins praise for performance was the headline just thought I’d check and I wasn’t dreaming. 

[duncanmckenzieismagic 5,450]

I thought you were one who wanted to stick with Unsworth at the time, maybe I got that wrong. 

Most definitely did get that wrong!

I would have loved it to work out for him because I love his desire and passion for the club , however it was quite clear very quickly that he wasn’t ready and was in well over his head

[nogs 1,260]

2 hours ago, Palfy said:

So Unsworth doesn’t know what he’s talking about. 

Well that's a complete 180 from your last response if ever I saw one! 

[Palfy 3,682]

3 hours ago, nogs said:

Well that's a complete 180 from your last response if ever I saw one! 

Ugh 😑 

[Wall Writer 14]

Saw on the highlights that he came on for the last 6 minutes or so. Anyone shed on light on how he did in what little time he had on the pitch?

[pete0 2,158]

20 minutes ago, Wall Writer said:

Saw on the highlights that he came on for the last 6 minutes or so. Anyone shed on light on how he did in what little time he had on the pitch?

Only thing I could say is he gets in good positions between the midfielders, but we were seeing the game out so the players never really looked to pass to him so not much else to judge on. 

[Wall Writer 14]

Thanks Pete

[Btay 2,249]

It’s all about small steps here. Hopefully we can be in a position to give him 25 or so against stoke and see if he can get on the ball and create something.

[Romey 1878 14,170]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/davy-klaassen-thanks-everton-fans-14397509

[c1982 2,773]

Gutted for Gylfi but this could be a massive opportunity for Klaassen to salvage something from what’s been a horror of a first season for him.

[Btay 2,249]

Think I’d like to see Rooney go foward to the 10 and Gana come in for stoke. No issue with Klaassen starting in the 10 but ideally I’d like him to him to come on at the end still with 30 or so

[c1982 2,773]

11 hours ago, Btay said:

Think I’d like to see Rooney go foward to the 10 and Gana come in for stoke. No issue with Klaassen starting in the 10 but ideally I’d like him to him to come on at the end still with 30 or so

If it’s Gana coming in for Siggy, I’d expect Davies to play the more advanced role of the 3.

[Btay 2,249]

4 hours ago, c1982 said:

If it’s Gana coming in for Siggy, I’d expect Davies to play the more advanced role of the 3.

No qualms with that either

[markjazzbassist 3,336]

7 hours ago, c1982 said:

If it’s Gana coming in for Siggy, I’d expect Davies to play the more advanced role of the 3.

i'd expect that as well.  i don't think klaassen will start if he just finally got a u23 match in.

[Romey 1878 14,170]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sam-allardyce-explains-anomaly-davy-14506390

[Paddock 2,721]

Just posted this in the Allerdyce thread. He’s a fucking joke.

[Hafnia 6,867]

Kevin Nolan is an allardyce midfielder....  says it all about him. 

[plaidharper 340]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/ronald-koeman-makes-davy-klaassen-14593882

[markjazzbassist 3,336]

probably the same thing sam sees too.  if so i expect him gone this summer.  what a shame.  

[badaids 670]

On 09/04/2018 at 15:34, hafnia said:

Kevin Nolan is an allardyce midfielder....  says it all about him. 

Bit harsh, Nolan was a good effective player on his day.  Certainly as good as Ossie, for example.

[StevO 5,941]

I wish we had more players with Nolan’s attitude. 

[Hafnia 6,867]

53 minutes ago, badaids said:

Bit harsh, Nolan was a good effective player on his day.  Certainly as good as Ossie, for example.

Fuckin red nose thug who nearly snapped anichebes leg in two.

Seen enough of him to realise he was a complete and utter shithouse like Charlie Adam. 

 

[badaids 670]

22 hours ago, hafnia said:

Fuckin red nose thug who nearly snapped anichebes leg in two.

Seen enough of him to realise he was a complete and utter shithouse like Charlie Adam. 

 

Yeah, a cunt, sure.  But not a bad player.

[Hafnia 6,867]

8 hours ago, badaids said:

Yeah, a cunt, sure.  But not a bad player.

Probably not a bad player to be fair but I will always say he is cos he's a prick.  

[Romey 1878 14,170]

https://www.toffeeweb.com/season/17-18/news/36679.html

[Romey 1878 14,170]

On 30/04/2018 at 22:23, StevO said:

I wish we had more players with Nolan’s attitude. 

His attitude of being "astounded" about what Evertonians want - better football, aiming for better - is most definitely not the attitude we want our players to have.

[Bailey 5,105]

If we do get Silva in then I dont think Klaassen will have any excuses not to play well. It would be between him and Siggy for the "Cleverly" role in my opinion and I would say Klaassen is probably that little bit more mobile.

[Aidan 2,228]

1 hour ago, Bailey said:

If we do get Silva in then I dont think Klaassen will have any excuses not to play well. It would be between him and Siggy for the "Cleverly" role in my opinion and I would say Klaassen is probably that little bit more mobile.

I was thinking he might even use him as a box to box arriving late in the opposition area

[Bailey 5,105]

4 hours ago, Aidan said:

I was thinking he might even use him as a box to box arriving late in the opposition area

Yeh I think so too but I suspect I think that will also depend on whether he is deemed physical/aggressive enough to play that way.

[Aidan 2,228]

30 minutes ago, Bailey said:

Yeh I think so too but I suspect I think that will also depend on whether he is deemed physical/aggressive enough to play that way.

My thoughts exsactly. Looks like he could be easily bullied and not up to the pace. I do however think he will fit in with the more attacking mentality which Silva will provide.

[Shukes 4,561]

Whenever I have watched him for us, he seems no less weaker than anyone in the team. I can actually remember more good touches than bad ones.

He simply needs a chance to prove himself before I could honestly judge him.

[Bailey 5,105]

46 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Whenever I have watched him for us, he seems no less weaker than anyone in the team. I can actually remember more good touches than bad ones.

He simply needs a chance to prove himself before I could honestly judge him.

I think it's a bit of everything. He isn't very quick, he isn'tt particularly strong and mentally doesn't have that aggression to make up for it. The mentality thing will be linked to confidence too so if he has a manager that believes in him and gives him that confidence we might see a player that's more aggressive, half a yard quicker and that little bit stronger.

[Shukes 4,561]

Hopefully.

he seemed tidy enough on the ball in his last few appearances. He also tried a few balls that if our players were more mobile, would have caused trouble for our opposition. I would like to see him have a run of games.

[Romey 1878 14,170]

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/05/25/klaassen

[Palfy 3,682]

16 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/05/25/klaassen

I like Klaassen and his attitude I hope the next manager sees he’s got a good player and gives him a fair crack unlike Allardyce. 

[Shukes 4,561]

I can see him featuring a lot more if we get the right manager in. If we want to pass the ball well and move up the field, then Klaassen can be an important player for us. 

His attitude seems spot on.

[Newty82 2,966]

I thought he showed that he had something in his small amount of appearances for us at the end of the season.

Thought he showed some nice touches and tried a varied range of passes.

I wouldn't give up on him yet.

[Bailey 5,105]

He is clearly a very good player but its just whether he can adapt to the demands of the league. 

It amazes me that he didnt play more games than he did, especially once we were 'safe' because you couldnt look at our midfield and say there was anyone in any form that could have kept him out of the side, even if it was only with next season in mind. 

Everything about the club last season was so short sighted though and hopefully that will change now with Brands and a new manager in place.

[Palfy 3,682]

1 minute ago, Bailey said:

He is clearly a very good player but its just whether he can adapt to the demands of the league. 

It amazes me that he didnt play more games than he did, especially once we were 'safe' because you couldnt look at our midfield and say there was anyone in any form that could have kept him out of the side, even if it was only with next season in mind. 

Everything about the club last season was so short sighted though and hopefully that will change now with Brands and a new manager in place.

Allardyce had made his mind up about him before he even met him, exactly in the same way as Koeman did with Niasse.

Hopefully given a good opportunity under different manager who wants to play football he will prove Allardyce wrong in the same way Niasse proved Koeman was no judge of a player and person.

[Shukes 4,561]

SSN reporting that Besiktas are interested in an initial loan deal for Klaassen.

[Hoof_It_Nev 163]

I don't really know much about Klaassen's character, but if a player is brought in as a first team player, isn'tt played much, then loaned back out again, I can't see them having much desire or loyalty to come back. Shame really. Ajax captain, glowing reports, great stats, I can't help but feel we'd be letting a great player go. 

[Romey 1878 14,170]

https://www.clubcall.com/premier-league/everton/klaassen-reveals-toffees-hopes-after-snubbing-besiktas.html

His interviews make it very hard to believe the things fat head said to try and cast Davy in a bad light.

[Sir McGiven 247]

On the other hand, Turkish media says that Everton, Klaassen and Besiktas have agreed on terms for a 2-year long loan deal with a 20m euros optional buy-out option. Loan deal will be 1,5 million for each year, 3m in total. Klaassen will earn 2m euros for each year, 4m in total during his loan period.

[markjazzbassist 3,336]

Just now, Sir McGiven said:

On the other hand, Turkish media says that Everton, Klaassen and Besiktas have agreed on terms for a 2-year long loan deal with a 20m euros optional buy-out option. Loan deal will be 1,5 million for each year, 3m in total.

if he doesn't have a future here that sounds like an excellent option and price we'd be getting back.  either way it's a win for me.

[Sir McGiven 247]

Well, I support both Besiktas and Everton, so, it is also a win-win for me If he is going to stay at Everton, I am expecting him to shine because of his will to prove himself. If he decides to move to Besiktas, it'll be a good addition to Besiktas' squad for the next year. A huge addition.

[Shukes 4,561]

I can’t see Everton agreeing to a 2 year loan deal. What would be the point of that? If we dont want him, sell him. If we want to see what he’s got elsewhere... loan him for a year.

A two year loan deal says we don’t want him at all.

got to call BS on that one.

[StevO 5,941]

If we loan him out for two years and they don’t take the £20m option, he’ll then be three years into his contract and worth pretty much nothing in the market.