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"“We have also Bolasie and Seamus Coleman fit in October, which will help the squad. We would like to finish as high as possible in the table.”"

 

Bolasie and Coleman already back by October?

 

No chance... maybe in full training but I cant see them being fit and ready to start games by then.

 

Its been a weird window. Pickford and Keane both big players in positions we needed and then we overloaded with a certain type of player that we probably only needed one of and haven't replaced our main striker, or brought in any cover at LB, and almost extracted any pace we had in the side.

 

I dont know what to think, and I'm not sure Koeman will either.

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To have sold Lukaku and not bought a striker in is crazy. We needed a striker in before Lukaku got sold. Yes we've got some bodies in and no doubt the majority will prove to be good additions but you need to score goals. If anything, after this window, I actually believe we are further away from the Top 6. Arsenal haven't had a good window but they've still added Lacazette and kept hold of their best players.

 

Im struggling to see Steve Walsh's worth in this set up. His role is to scout players??? When you look at all the signings, Schneiderlin was a Koeman buy, and you could say he had a major influence in Klaasen being signed. Gueye was on Leicester's radar prior to them selling kante so he more or less came with him. Keane and Pickford were obvious signings and I'm sure Walsh didn't do much scouting with regards to Wayne Rooney. So really, he's signed Lookman and Sandro in 12 months??? I'm just glad Sissoko, Perez and Lamina Kone didn't sign. I don't see how we are gaining any edge on our competitors with this so called role. Id rather have Koeman choosing the players

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We've done a great job replacing Barkley, and not sold him, but haven't come close to replacing Rom. Seems all our business came to a screeching halt when Swansea starting playing hardball over sig.

 

Did we even make an official offer for any strikers this summer? Perez, Bony and Llorente all went today and would have improved us. Really feels like an opportunity lost after a window that promised so much.

 

So.. how bad is Niasse? Do Sambou or Henen hold the ball up well?

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To have sold Lukaku and not bought a striker in is crazy. We needed a striker in before Lukaku got sold. Yes we've got some bodies in and no doubt the majority will prove to be good additions but you need to score goals. If anything, after this window, I actually believe we are further away from the Top 6. Arsenal haven't had a good window but they've still added Lacazette and kept hold of their best players.

 

Im struggling to see Steve Walsh's worth in this set up. His role is to scout players??? When you look at all the signings, Schneiderlin was a Koeman buy, and you could say he had a major influence in Klaasen being signed. Gueye was on Leicester's radar prior to them selling kante so he more or less came with him. Keane and Pickford were obvious signings and I'm sure Walsh didn't do much scouting with regards to Wayne Rooney. So really, he's signed Lookman and Sandro in 12 months??? I'm just glad Sissoko, Perez and Lamina Kone didn't sign. I don't see how we are gaining any edge on our competitors with this so called role. Id rather have Koeman choosing the players

I think Walsh has probably been responsible for the majority of our under-23 signings as of late. Probably take a little time to see his real influence.
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I understand it is difficult to buy the players you want and much more goes on behind the scenes in transfers than what we imagine, but you're right, other strikers did leave their clubs and we didn't sign them. We have a lot going against us, no champions league and we aren't based in London but in order to counter these obstacles, you have to splash the cash and sell the dream. We havent done that. Here's hoping Atletico Madrid sign Costa tomorrow and we get him on loan..................

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To have sold Lukaku and not bought a striker in is crazy. We needed a striker in before Lukaku got sold. Yes we've got some bodies in and no doubt the majority will prove to be good additions but you need to score goals. If anything, after this window, I actually believe we are further away from the Top 6. Arsenal haven't had a good window but they've still added Lacazette and kept hold of their best players.

 

Im struggling to see Steve Walsh's worth in this set up. His role is to scout players??? When you look at all the signings, Schneiderlin was a Koeman buy, and you could say he had a major influence in Klaasen being signed. Gueye was on Leicester's radar prior to them selling kante so he more or less came with him. Keane and Pickford were obvious signings and I'm sure Walsh didn't do much scouting with regards to Wayne Rooney. So really, he's signed Lookman and Sandro in 12 months??? I'm just glad Sissoko, Perez and Lamina Kone didn't sign. I don't see how we are gaining any edge on our competitors with this so called role. Id rather have Koeman choosing the players

This is a project, strengthening the U23's gives us a pool of quality players coming up that are used to us, the league and the way we play. We have also signed some quality players for the first team. Not signing a striker is disappointing but if clubs wont sell there is not much we can do.

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To have sold Lukaku and not bought a striker in is crazy. We needed a striker in before Lukaku got sold. Yes we've got some bodies in and no doubt the majority will prove to be good additions but you need to score goals. If anything, after this window, I actually believe we are further away from the Top 6. Arsenal haven't had a good window but they've still added Lacazette and kept hold of their best players.

 

Im struggling to see Steve Walsh's worth in this set up. His role is to scout players??? When you look at all the signings, Schneiderlin was a Koeman buy, and you could say he had a major influence in Klaasen being signed. Gueye was on Leicester's radar prior to them selling kante so he more or less came with him. Keane and Pickford were obvious signings and I'm sure Walsh didn't do much scouting with regards to Wayne Rooney. So really, he's signed Lookman and Sandro in 12 months??? I'm just glad Sissoko, Perez and Lamina Kone didn't sign. I don't see how we are gaining any edge on our competitors with this so called role. Id rather have Koeman choosing the players

Welcome to the board. I think Sandro is a #9 and we viewed it as such at the time, but its obvious that he isn't a target man #9. Not someone you knock long balls up to. Now that we've realized it will take him, DCL, Rooney, the rest time to adjust, we are panicking.

 

I think we'll be fine. Give our plan more time to develop. Some of these kids should hopefully grow into quality first team players and either a #9 will emerge within the squad or we'll buy one in the next 12 months. We are a work in progress.

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This is a project, strengthening the U23's gives us a pool of quality players coming up that are used to us, the league and the way we play. We have also signed some quality players for the first team. Not signing a striker is disappointing but if clubs wont sell there is not much we can do.

I understand the "project" thing but history tells you that apart from Man Utd in the 90s, the thought of all these players coming through and becoming a team doesn't really exist. Football is, unfortunately, going away from this model.

 

Teams are happy with producing 1 or 2 youngsters a year (Davies, Holgate last year. DCL this year) but if we are going to break into the Top 4 we need top quality additions to the first team. Id rather he spent more time on finding us a centre forward for us now than giving David Unsworth a load of talent that may or may not provide us with a couple of players with no experience every couple of years.

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Welcome to the board. I think Sandro is a #9 and we viewed it as such at the time, but its obvious that he isn't a target man #9. Not someone you knock long balls up to. Now that we've realized it will take him, DCL, Rooney, the rest time to adjust, we are panicking.

 

I think we'll be fine. Give our plan more time to develop. Some of these kids should hopefully grow into quality first team players and either a #9 will emerge within the squad or we'll buy one in the next 12 months. We are a work in progress.

I hope you're right, and Im probably still fuming and over exaggerating after a very disappointing end to the window.

 

Koeman saying in his press conferences that we were after two more players, a striker and a left centre half, was positive to hear but has left us all feeling a bit robbed. I get why he did that, I like the way he uses the press to influence the board. I hope he can mould Rooney, Sigurdsson, Sandro and DCL into an attacking force and it may be a blessing in disguise if DCL continues his run of form. If he can add goals to his game we could have a top centre foward.

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I hope you're right, and Im probably still fuming and over exaggerating after a very disappointing end to the window.

 

Koeman saying in his press conferences that we were after two more players, a striker and a left centre half, was positive to hear but has left us all feeling a bit robbed. I get why he did that, I like the way he uses the press to influence the board. I hope he can mould Rooney, Sigurdsson, Sandro and DCL into an attacking force and it may be a blessing in disguise if DCL continues his run of form. If he can add goals to his game we could have a top centre foward.

 

i think it's like anything, you say what you want knowing you probably won't get it. mou said he wanted another big signing, a few days later he admitted he probably wouldn't get it. City fell short with Sanchez, Arsenal fell short with Lemar, Liverpool got Salah and then no one else i really care about, Chelsea got morata and some bench players.

 

The only team that really strengthened big was us. Seeing all the bigs come up empty on TDD has made me feel a little better we did our business early.

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i think it's like anything, you say what you want knowing you probably won't get it. mou said he wanted another big signing, a few days later he admitted he probably wouldn't get it. City fell short with Sanchez, Arsenal fell short with Lemar, Liverpool got Salah and then no one else i really care about, Chelsea got morata and some bench players.

 

The only team that really strengthened big was us. Seeing all the bigs come up empty on TDD has made me feel a little better we did our business early.

Yes good points. Pickford would be worth 50 million already, Keane more too. That compensates for the 75 million quid we got for Lukaku. Today he's already worth about 120 million. Feel like we could have got more for that sale looking back.

I honestly believe though that we are one top class centre forward and centre half away from a real challenge and that's what is frustrating.

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Toffeetalk in June - this is the best window ever! Look at the players we've signed and money spent!

 

Toffetalk in September - this is shit, we can't even get a striker in and will probably end up with a shitty loan deal.

 

 

 

Makes me laugh :lol:

We still had a prolific goal scorer in June though

 

There is no doubt that we have done some great business this window but not replacing Lukaku is a major failing

I'm not daft enough to think we could have attracted a like for like replacement of his calibre but not replacing him at all is criminal

 

I would give this window overalll a disappointing 5 out of 10

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Is our first team stronger than last year? I'm not sure it is.

 

Goalkeeper Better - Pickford Good Signing

Defence Worse - Keane Good Signing, Coleman worse due to injury, Rest older and in decline.

Midfield Same - No Real Change (except maybe Barkley not wanting to play).

Attack Worse - Lukaku not replaced, Delboy not replaced, Barkley no longer wanting to be here. Other positions improved, but now very narrow.

 

I think we will struggle now this year due to not replacing Lukaku and feel out first team has now declined.

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Welcome to the board. I think Sandro is a #9 and we viewed it as such at the time, but its obvious that he isn't a target man #9. Not someone you knock long balls up to. Now that we've realized it will take him, DCL, Rooney, the rest time to adjust, we are panicking.

 

I think we'll be fine. Give our plan more time to develop. Some of these kids should hopefully grow into quality first team players and either a #9 will emerge within the squad or we'll buy one in the next 12 months. We are a work in progress.

If they thought Sandro was a true #9 then they didn't do their homework very well. He can play up there for the Spanish U21s and he could play as more of a Vardy type striker but not as a target man type player than Koeman seems to want.

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To have sold Lukaku and not bought a striker in is crazy. We needed a striker in before Lukaku got sold. Yes we've got some bodies in and no doubt the majority will prove to be good additions but you need to score goals. If anything, after this window, I actually believe we are further away from the Top 6. Arsenal haven't had a good window but they've still added Lacazette and kept hold of their best players.

 

lo arsenal are an utter rabble at the moment.

 

Alexis can run around in circles and drop a shit on the pitch and still get picked for Chile and pick up a massive signing bonus from City next season...... you think he's going to give a shit this year?

 

They needed another CB and didn't get one.

 

They've need a replacement for Cazorla for years and still haven't addressed that...

 

Alexis and Ozil will leave on frees at the end of this season... but what about the season after... who's in their final year?

 

Ramsey, Giroud, Walcott, Welbeck, Monreal, Ospina, Cech

 

Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if West Brom finished above Arsenal this season.....

 

Do they still have a good team? of course.

 

Will they be played in the right positions... well going off the liverpool game... nope.

 

Also knocking back 10m for Gibbs and saying 52 mil was too much for Lemar a month or so ago... to selling Gibbs for 7m and trying to get Lemar for 92m.... says it all really...

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We still had a prolific goal scorer in June though

 

There is no doubt that we have done some great business this window but not replacing Lukaku is a major failing

I'm not daft enough to think we could have attracted a like for like replacement of his calibre but not replacing him at all is criminal

 

I would give this window overalll a disappointing 5 out of 10

Oh I know. Was just a little observational joke to help me deal with the inevitable at the time.

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I think we were almost aiming too high with strikers e.g. Giroud, Costa, Dzeko etc. These players probably weren't that excited by us and the clubs (bar Costa) weren't in any need to do business with us. In reality, if we'd gone after someone like Dembele at Celtic from the start then we'd have probably got him in - very raw and a downgrade on Lukaku but would have given us another much needed option in attack however over priced it may have seemed.

 

If it was purely a target man we were looking for then the likes of Rondon, Deeney, Wood would have done a job short term but wouldn't have had the quality to take us where we aspire to be. With hindsight, would we have been better off getting one of these in as an option?

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Hey Newty, I know it was something you were interested in. How much did we end up actually spending this summer?

About £55mill. Not too shabby...but the market got proper distorted. If that Barkley deal had gone through, would it have been £20mill??? Or did we have another guy lined up? Barkley fell through really late so, again, my sceptical mind kicks in (it's only a very small portion of my overall thoughts!) and I'm still a bit 'hmmmm' about our actual spend intentions without selling. Good window I think though.

 

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I think we were almost aiming too high with strikers e.g. Giroud, Costa, Dzeko etc. These players probably weren't that excited by us and the clubs (bar Costa) weren't in any need to do business with us. In reality, if we'd gone after someone like Dembele at Celtic from the start then we'd have probably got him in - very raw and a downgrade on Lukaku but would have given us another much needed option in attack however over priced it may have seemed.

 

If it was purely a target man we were looking for then the likes of Rondon, Deeney, Wood would have done a job short term but wouldn't have had the quality to take us where we aspire to be. With hindsight, would we have been better off getting one of these in as an option?

 

Not a bad shout, even Marcus Bent did a decent job for a year replacing Rooney.

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Not a bad shout, even Marcus Bent did a decent job for a year replacing Rooney.

not bad, no. Fucking awful shouts. I'd rather DCL get game time and develop than buy a "hold up" striker for a season.

 

If DCL can bulk up a bit, he could do that role considering his control and leap, but that too will take time. But I'd rather he played and learnt that buy one of those 3

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in the presser RK said he was happy with the window.  Wanted striker last day but due to teams either holding out (ala coutinho) or asking way way too much he said "1st and 2nd choice were not available.  he then said once you get down to 3rd 4th 5th choice it's......aaaa well....." and drifted off.  i think he didn't want to just buy a player to buy a player at that point (see enner valencia).  Happy with Rooney DCL Sandro as options at the 9 and Niasse in the fold too.

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1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said:

in the presser RK said he was happy with the window.  Wanted striker last day but due to teams either holding out (ala coutinho) or asking way way too much he said "1st and 2nd choice were not available.  he then said once you get down to 3rd 4th 5th choice it's......aaaa well....." and drifted off.  i think he didn't want to just buy a player to buy a player at that point (see enner valencia).  Happy with Rooney DCL Sandro as options at the 9 and Niasse in the fold too.

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It's great to see us not panic buy for once.

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I also saw the highlight of Bolton vs Middlesbrough, our left back Robinson was completely outplayed by Adama Traore, Adama is the player we need, with pace, strong, and he is the most skillful winger in the league. The weakness is the final play but in this game he improved a lot and with two assists. I thinks he will cost around 25M but he is just only 21 years old, he is now playing in the champion league so we should be able to attract him to come in Jan

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Im  at a loss to see how we have gone so wrong, I was really excited in the buys we brought in, Klaasen was a top player with x amount of goals and x amount of assists,  Rooney is a good player going slightly  downhill  in fitness and skill, Sandro was supposed to be a £25m player who we got for buttons, then we have Keane, Pickford and Siggy.

£150m worth of new players, so how is it we are playing worse with these players than we were with all the dead wood we got rid of. Time to bring the fringe players in from the cold , Holgate, Besic, Mirallas, Jags, Davies must all be brought in to make others fight for their place. they surely cant play any worse than the present crew. As i said i,m lost for words and i just dont understand why the manager perseveres with poor performances.

Would like to see him play 4-4-2 and attack teams especially in the cups to see how we would do.

Pickford

holgate - keane - jags - baines

Vlasic - davies - besic - mirallas

           DCL - rooney

save siggy for the league matches.

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11 hours ago, Bill said:

Im  at a loss to see how we have gone so wrong, I was really excited in the buys we brought in, Klaasen was a top player with x amount of goals and x amount of assists,  Rooney is a good player going slightly  downhill  in fitness and skill, Sandro was supposed to be a £25m player who we got for buttons, then we have Keane, Pickford and Siggy.

£150m worth of new players, so how is it we are playing worse with these players than we were with all the dead wood we got rid of. Time to bring the fringe players in from the cold , Holgate, Besic, Mirallas, Jags, Davies must all be brought in to make others fight for their place. they surely cant play any worse than the present crew. As i said i,m lost for words and i just dont understand why the manager perseveres with poor performances.

Would like to see him play 4-4-2 and attack teams especially in the cups to see how we would do.

Pickford

holgate - keane - jags - baines

Vlasic - davies - besic - mirallas

           DCL - rooney

save siggy for the league matches.

Holgate, Davies, Jags, Besic, and Mirallas not his buys so he Will over look them unless he has injuries or suspensions to his buys.

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We've actually pissed over £100m on absolute shit. That's being kind.

Pickford (just) is the only positive. 

RK deserved to lose him job for the Klaassen signing alone. Throw in Keane (shame) and Sigurdsson and the guy deserves to step away from the sport entirly .

Always stated Sigurdsson was a mistake but didn't even think he was THAT bad.

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3 minutes ago, Lowensda said:

We've actually pissed over £100m on absolute shit. That's being kind.

Pickford (just) is the only positive. 

RK deserved to lose him job for the Klaassen signing alone. Throw in Keane (shame) and Sigurdsson and the guy deserves to step away from the sport entirly .

Always stated Sigurdsson was a mistake but didn't even think he was THAT bad.

It makes me want to cry. He signed Williams too. And Martina. And Sandro, who let's face it was as shite as anyone apart from the goal tonight. 

And let's remember Walsh is meant to be in charge of recruitment, or at least identifying targets. This is happened since he came in. 

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7 minutes ago, nogs said:

It makes me want to cry. He signed Williams too. And Martina. And Sandro, who let's face it was as shite as anyone apart from the goal tonight. 

And let's remember Walsh is meant to be in charge of recruitment, or at least identifying targets. This is happened since he came in. 

We need to see Moshiri show some balls and bullet the cunt.

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