Jump to content
IGNORED

General Election/UK Politics


johnh

Recommended Posts

  • 2 weeks later...

Imagine trying to honour someone for their humanitarian work but refusing to let their father come into the country to see it. 

The Home Office has refused to grant a visit visa to the father of the chief executive of the Scottish Refugee Council.

Mohammad Zahir Zazai was hoping to come to Britain to see his son Sabir receive an honorary doctorate.

Sabir Zazai won the Lord Provost’s award for human rights this year and will be given a doctorate from the University of Glasgow for 20 years’ work in civil services.

https://inews.co.uk/news/scotland/the-home-office-is-denying-a-father-a-visa-to-see-his-son-get-a-doctorate/?fbclid=IwAR3KSkFD4KiWEpd5lblRVstQyreoyNfCbr6Qy1Y5TA2LgdfZnMY8w0qjgyw

Link to comment
Share on other sites

23 hours ago, pete0 said:

Imagine trying to honour someone for their humanitarian work but refusing to let their father come into the country to see it. 

The Home Office has refused to grant a visit visa to the father of the chief executive of the Scottish Refugee Council.

Mohammad Zahir Zazai was hoping to come to Britain to see his son Sabir receive an honorary doctorate.

Sabir Zazai won the Lord Provost’s award for human rights this year and will be given a doctorate from the University of Glasgow for 20 years’ work in civil services.

https://inews.co.uk/news/scotland/the-home-office-is-denying-a-father-a-visa-to-see-his-son-get-a-doctorate/?fbclid=IwAR3KSkFD4KiWEpd5lblRVstQyreoyNfCbr6Qy1Y5TA2LgdfZnMY8w0qjgyw

Can’t be true. We’ve no control over who comes in to our county...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, rubecula said:

thank od she is going though?

Replacement will be worse though, likely BoJo, who is really as embarrassing as Trump is. Difference is only that Johnson is undoubtedly a man of intellect even though he comes across as a buffoon, whereas Trump is a thick twat whose buffoonery just confirms the fact.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/donald-trumps-business-failures-were-very-real

"...between 1985 and 1989, a period when the economy was forging ahead and Trump was busy portraying himself as a billionaire with the Midas touch, his core businesses—apartment buildings, hotels, and casinos—somehow managed to lose $359.1 million. That was only the beginning. As the economy weakened, in 1990 and 1991, Trump’s core businesses racked up losses of $517.5 million. And, between 1992 and 1994, as the economy recovered, they lost another $286.9 million."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

56 minutes ago, Matt said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48403705

oh the choices the choices....

Two murderers, another that will give Trump a run for his money, and one that I don't know who the fuck they are. Joy. And they will be our next Prime Minister even after a General Election because there is zero chance of a Labour victory with Corbyn around.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said:

Two murderers, another that will give Trump a run for his money, and one that I don't know who the fuck they are. Joy. And they will be our next Prime Minister even after a General Election because there is zero chance of a Labour victory with Corbyn around.

This. 

Corbyn seems to be very very popular in Liverpool and in his own front garden, but the rest of the country seem to hate the man. To me he doesn’t look powerful if that makes any sense, I don’t see him standing up to Trump if needed. 

Boris is an absolute plant pot, but I could see him taking no shit from Trump. Not sure I’d want him to be PM though. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If I was a member of the Conservative party I would select Rory Stewart as the next leader, he is a moderate and he possesses empathy something that is very rare to find in a conservative MP and let’s be frank most Tory voters. 

Also he would be strong enough to stand up to the right wing and most importantly that fat prick Trump, read his story and I’m sure you will be pleased with his back ground, it’s about time we had a leader who has a grasp on real life instead of these pompous twats the Tories constantly pump out, who have nothing in common with the people they propose to represent. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

46 minutes ago, Palfy said:

If I was a member of the Conservative party I would select Rory Stewart as the next leader, he is a moderate and he possesses empathy something that is very rare to find in a conservative MP and let’s be frank most Tory voters. 

Also he would be strong enough to stand up to the right wing and most importantly that fat prick Trump, read his story and I’m sure you will be pleased with his back ground, it’s about time we had a leader who has a grasp on real life instead of these pompous twats the Tories constantly pump out, who have nothing in common with the people they propose to represent. 

Son of a diplomat-check.

Private prep school-check.

Eton-check.

Oxbridge-check.

Private tutor to William and Harry-bonus.

Army top brass-check.

Havard professor-check.

Yes he's done some decent humanitarian stuff abroad as well but still cut from the same cloth as the rest of them. Never experienced applying for Universal Credit I wouldn't think, or working on a zero hours contract or getting by on minimum wage.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Son of a diplomat-check.

Private prep school-check.

Eton-check.

Oxbridge-check.

Private tutor to William and Harry-bonus.

Army top brass-check.

Havard professor-check.

Yes he's done some decent humanitarian stuff abroad as well but still cut from the same cloth as the rest of them. Never experienced applying for Universal Credit I wouldn't think, or working on a zero hours contract or getting by on minimum wage.

 

He  can’t be held responsible for his fathers career or his early schooling, yet his father was a good role model who gave him his views on helping those less fortunate, he was also very well liked by the troops under his command. 

He has had a charmed up bringing but he has used that privilege to help people and done stuff for charities in worn torn countries that you and I wouldn’t consider. 

Who would you like to see win the leadership of the Tories to become the next PM and why ?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Palfy said:

Who would you like to see win the leadership of the Tories to become the next PM and why ?

I refer you to my sig below, whoever would be most likely to oversee their permanent demise would be my choice; no idea who that might be. May was making a decent effort so a shame she's going really.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, MikeO said:

I refer you to my sig below, whoever would be most likely to oversee their permanent demise would be my choice; no idea who that might be. May was making a decent effort so a shame she's going really.

I understand your point but unfortunately for us who ever is chosen will more than likely be having a final say on our withdrawal from the EU, that could prove to be the demise of more than the Tory Party if the wrong person or people are in charge and there are a lot in the Tory Party who have thrown their hat into the ring that will bring this country to it’s knees, that’s why I see Stewart as the best option for the country and not the Conservative Party because the country and the people in it are of more concern to me at this moment in time than anyone party or party politics. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Palfy said:

I understand your point but unfortunately for us who ever is chosen will more than likely be having a final say on our withdrawal from the EU, that could prove to be the demise of more than the Tory Party if the wrong person or people are in charge and there are a lot in the Tory Party who have thrown their hat into the ring that will bring this country to it’s knees, that’s why I see Stewart as the best option for the country and not the Conservative Party because the country and the people in it are of more concern to me at this moment in time than anyone party or party politics. 

Points taken, clusterfuck whatever happens; I'm at a complete loss to see a decent way forward. Right wing extremism on the rise in Europe and globally as well as Mr Farage, I despair for our future; lessons of history are being forgotten.....even the Jewish community in Germany are being warned against wearing the kippah in public due to the rise of anti-semitism. In Germany, think about it, so afraid by the way the world is going.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

46 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Points taken, clusterfuck whatever happens; I'm at a complete loss to see a decent way forward. Right wing extremism on the rise in Europe and globally as well as Mr Farage, I despair for our future; lessons of history are being forgotten.....even the Jewish community in Germany are being warned against wearing the kippah in public due to the rise of anti-semitism. In Germany, think about it, so afraid by the way the world is going.

I agree we are living in very scary times, and the European Parliament could look a very different place after all the elections have finished it could look more like the Reich Chancellor of the late 30s with far right banners flying from the roof.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 minutes ago, Palfy said:

I agree we are living in very scary times, and the European Parliament could look a very different place after all the elections have finished it could look more like the Reich Chancellor of the late 30s with far right banners flying from the roof.

I fear you'll be right. I just can't get my head around it though, so soon after the holocaust millions of people are pushing the to that way of thinking; though admittedly few are suggesting acting that way (yet).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 hours ago, MikeO said:

Points taken, clusterfuck whatever happens; I'm at a complete loss to see a decent way forward. Right wing extremism on the rise in Europe and globally as well as Mr Farage, I despair for our future; lessons of history are being forgotten.....even the Jewish community in Germany are being warned against wearing the kippah in public due to the rise of anti-semitism. In Germany, think about it, so afraid by the way the world is going.

"LePen won in 2014 with 24.4%. She’s now on 23.3. In the Netherlands, Geert Wilders - an absolutely key figure in the Euro alt-right - was annihilated, losing all 4 of his MEPs. In Greece, Golden Dawn have dropped from 9.4% to 4.9%. In Austria the FPO from 20% to 17%, in turmoil over financial scandal, and out of gov’t. In Germany the AfD barely moved the dial, adding 1 MEP, while the Greens came second.  In Spain far-right VOX dropped more than 4% since the GE *only a month ago*. In Denmark the DPL has gone from winning in 2014 with 25%, down to 10%. We must be realistic, but also optimistic and positive. Despair is de-energising and, in this case, utterly misplaced. The truth is people are politically engaged and pro-European parties are rallying brilliantly, from a very desperate base."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, holystove said:

"LePen won in 2014 with 24.4%. She’s now on 23.3. In the Netherlands, Geert Wilders - an absolutely key figure in the Euro alt-right - was annihilated, losing all 4 of his MEPs. In Greece, Golden Dawn have dropped from 9.4% to 4.9%. In Austria the FPO from 20% to 17%, in turmoil over financial scandal, and out of gov’t. In Germany the AfD barely moved the dial, adding 1 MEP, while the Greens came second.  In Spain far-right VOX dropped more than 4% since the GE *only a month ago*. In Denmark the DPL has gone from winning in 2014 with 25%, down to 10%. We must be realistic, but also optimistic and positive. Despair is de-energising and, in this case, utterly misplaced. The truth is people are politically engaged and pro-European parties are rallying brilliantly, from a very desperate base."

Reassuring that, thanks. The rest of Europe would appear to be coming to their senses to a some extent.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, MikeO said:

Reassuring that, thanks. The rest of Europe would appear to be coming to their senses to a some extent.

 

5 hours ago, MikeO said:

Reassuring that, thanks. The rest of Europe would appear to be coming to their senses to a some extent.

Even the Swiss agreed to impose stricter gun laws. A massive sign of progress, across the continent 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, MikeO said:

Reassuring that, thanks. The rest of Europe would appear to be coming to their senses to a some extent.

 

5 hours ago, MikeO said:

Reassuring that, thanks. The rest of Europe would appear to be coming to their senses to a some extent.

Even the Swiss agreed to impose stricter gun laws. A massive sign of progress, across the continent 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Laws aren't the problem, people/culture are. Canada has more guns per person than the US but no where near the issues. 

That was exactly my point. Their direct democracy reflect the people’s mood at the time, which reflects the general swing as Mike was referring too. Wouldn’t be surprised if the put it up for debate again soon though, gun culture is quite important here. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...