Bailey Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 45 minutes ago, MikeO said: We missed two "sitters" also. Thats what I was thinking... At 2-0 it was a tight game with few chances, probably two or three each. They scored, we didn't. Penalties aside, we then created more after 2 nil. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 I hate all this “we want a manager who gets Everton” stuff. I want a manager who wins football matches and will bring success- I’m not arsed who that person is in the slightest. EFC-Paul, badaids, barryj and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 But if we can get a manager that gets Everton and wins things, then isn’t that better? That’s what people want Pad. I honestly don’t see what manager is going to walk through the door and turn us into a top six team in two weeks, I don’t think there is one out there. In that respect, we shouldn’t write anyone else off for not doing the same. A fair crack of the whip means exactly that, Fair! markjazzbassist, Matt and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 The reason we are where we are is the previous manager did not get Everton. Turned us into a soulless side... A manager getting everton is not the only criteria but for me the new managèr needs to understand or want to become part of the club.... not just a fucking employee earning shit loads of cash whilst living in a rented house or hotel away from his family. Matt and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 30 minutes ago, hafnia said: The reason we are where we are is the previous manager did not get Everton. Turned us into a soulless side... A manager getting everton is not the only criteria but for me the new managèr needs to understand or want to become part of the club.... not just a fucking employee earning shit loads of cash whilst living in a rented house or hotel away from his family. Yes this is right, soulless and just earning cash. i want Unsworth to get the job and to succeed as he is the opposite of Koeman, if not, then someone who has some passion, cos thats what football is all about for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 I proper enjoyed Martinez and his whole getting Everton thing. It was lovely that he knew our history etc while we struggled in the league. It really made up for things like. Not. I didn't enjoy the start of this season under Koeman either mind. What I'm trying to say is that it's performance that matters. I don't need a manager to love Everton, to get Everton, I just want them to get us winning. Same goes goes for the players - loving the club isn't important to me, I (and every Evertonian) have enough love for the club, I just want them to their job and win football games for us. StevO, Sibdane and EFC-Paul 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 For me it's not about getting Everton either. You can poo poo the age group all you want, Unsworth has shown he can win matches at U23 level, and is arguably the best there is in that competition right now. I believe in giving people a chance to step up and not writing them off before they've had a chance. Like I've said, if he isn't up to it, fair does. But as there's no one else with a better pedigree knocking the door down, I say give him the rest of this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, nogs said: For me it's not about getting Everton either. You can poo poo the age group all you want, Unsworth has shown he can win matches at U23 level, and is arguably the best there is in that competition right now. I believe in giving people a chance to step up and not writing them off before they've had a chance. Like I've said, if he isn't up to it, fair does. But as there's no one else with a better pedigree knocking the door down, I say give him the rest of this season. I would absolutely love for him to take the opportunity (if it happens) and for him to do well for us. I'm a massive fan of his. It's just a big gamble and I do worry it could go tits up. I'm as worried for him about it as I am for the club and our season. I would hate for a bad experience to tarnish him with something that he may never be able to shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: What I'm trying to say is that it's performance that matters. I don't need a manager to love Everton, to get Everton, I just want them to get us winning. Same goes goes for the players - loving the club isn't important to me, I (and every Evertonian) have enough love for the club, I just want them to their job and win football games for us. I don't think that it matters greatly either but, as Shukes said, it would be brilliant if the person doing their job and getting the wins was an Evertonian wouldn't it? There's also the fact (that I've already pointed out) that "if you know your history" every trophy we've won since before WW2 was with an ex-player at the helm. Is that coincidence? Edit: Even Thomas McIntosh who ran us from 1919 to 1935 and won the FA Cup and the league title twice (and signed Dixie) was born in Liverpool; though he never played for us and I've no idea if he was a fan. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 2 hours ago, hafnia said: The reason we are where we are is the previous manager did not get Everton. Turned us into a soulless side... A manager getting everton is not the only criteria but for me the new managèr needs to understand or want to become part of the club.... not just a fucking employee earning shit loads of cash whilst living in a rented house or hotel away from his family. Disagree mate, Mourinho, Spurs manager however you spell it, Guardiola etc would not “get” us but they would win us trophies with the right resources. You don’t have to get anything you just need to be a top manager. EFC-Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 48 minutes ago, MikeO said: I don't think that it matters greatly either but, as Shukes said, it would be brilliant if the person doing their job and getting the wins was an Evertonian wouldn't it? There's also the fact (that I've already pointed out) that "if you know your history" every trophy we've won since before WW2 was with an ex-player at the helm. Is that coincidence? Edit: Even Thomas McIntosh who ran us from 1919 to 1935 and won the FA Cup and the league title twice (and signed Dixie) was born in Liverpool; though he never played for us and I've no idea if he was a fan. Of course it would, but lots are acting like it's essential. Yes I do think it's a coincidence. Paddock and Quinn31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 What does getting a club actually mean... Knowing it's history and its ethos, welcome to Wikipedia Dortmund is one of the biggest "fan" clubs in the world would they turn away the likes of Pep Poch and co no they wouldn't It's a blanket statement/phrase to me that doesn't really have much basis behind it, people liked how Martinez came in and spewed all the media darling shite and it stood for fuck all as he wasn't upto the job I'd love a manager who appreciated our history our fans etc but results count in today's game not sentiment imo Quinn31 and Paddock 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 I think some of our fans expect far too much from a manager whilst also accepting mediocrity with the teams performance. Who’s arsed if it’s an ex player, has an Everton tattoo or says centre half like a scouser- just win football matches. Our most successful manager “got” us, played for us was loved by us then fucked off to Athletico Bilbao at the first sign of some pesatas- look how that turned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: I would absolutely love for him to take the opportunity (if it happens) and for him to do well for us. I'm a massive fan of his. It's just a big gamble and I do worry it could go tits up. I'm as worried for him about it as I am for the club and our season. I would hate for a bad experience to tarnish him with something that he may never be able to shift. I think all the names being touted around for our next manager are a gamble personally. I think the only long term risk to Unsworth's reputation is we get relegated. Then he'd have to live with being the manager that took us down for the first time since 1950 whatever. But he'd be sacked before that happened anyway, and the injury would be more personal to him than professional. He'd still have a decent career as a manager ahead of him. Relegation hasn't done any harm to plenty of managers. Thinking of two from our recent past, Martinez is now managing one of the top 10 international teams heading into a World Cup, and Moyes is still getting Premier League jobs. Anyway, I keep saying it, but I don't for a minute believe we'd go down under Unsworth. He's a good organiser, plays to win and will make us aggressive enough to win matches at home if nothing else. Just my opinion, but I don't see any of the other managers we're being linked with doing any better short term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 One of those mike0 stats I think, that we’ve only ever won stuff wth a former player as manager. Kendall Royle etc. I’m starting to think there might be something in that. Not to mention I would rather unsy for the rest of the year and get someone in the summer than get someone now. Better options and better chance to see if Dave (and I’m not talking about newty) warrants it full time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: Yes I do think it's a coincidence. Cynic. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 3 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: One of those mike0 stats I think, that we’ve only ever won stuff wth a former player as manager. Kendall Royle etc. I’m starting to think there might be something in that. Not to mention I would rather unsy for the rest of the year and get someone in the summer than get someone now. Better options and better chance to see if Dave (and I’m not talking about newty) warrants it full time Oh I got all excited then....!!! markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 11, 2017 Report Share Posted November 11, 2017 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11121710/david-unsworth-in-the-dark-over-everton-job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 On 6 November 2017 at 23:03, Cornish Steve said: Anything changed after the win against Watford? Nope I still wouldn't take David Underpant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevO Posted November 13, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 David Underpants? are you fucking five years old? Matt, MikeO, Newty82 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 54 minutes ago, StevO said: David Underpants? are you fucking five years old? You're being disrespectful to five year olds there mate. Shame on you. Newty82 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Sorry to any five year olds who have access to TT. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Newty82 Posted November 14, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 10 hours ago, StevO said: Sorry to any five year olds who have access to TT. 😆 No problem. No offence taken. Paddock, Matt, Sibdane and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/17/david-unsworth-everton-manager-delay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 30 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/17/david-unsworth-everton-manager-delay Reminds me of school. My social science teacher gave me a choice of walking out of the classroom and I also took the voice of walking..... I was 13. those two should be embarrassed for behaving like that. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 34 minutes ago, Shukes said: Reminds me of school. My social science teacher gave me a choice of walking out of the classroom and I also took the voice of walking..... I was 13. those two should be embarrassed for behaving like that. When things are tough that's when you find out who you can rely on. Bailey and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: When things are tough that's when you find out who you can rely on. And find out about yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeO Posted November 18, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/17/david-unsworth-everton-manager-delay For someone so inexperienced he handles himself brilliantly with the media; puts most established pros to shame. Whatever his future he's a credit to himself and the club. Sev, Shukes, Btay and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 23 minutes ago, MikeO said: For someone so inexperienced he handles himself brilliantly with the media; puts most established pros to shame. Whatever his future he's a credit to himself and the club. Agree completely, he may not be the man for the managers role at the moment but it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s his one day - whether he keeps doing what he’s doing with the academy or cuts his managerial teeth elsewhere. Best of luck to him. Matt, Romey 1878 and Quinn31 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 1 hour ago, MikeO said: For someone so inexperienced he handles himself brilliantly with the media; puts most established pros to shame. Whatever his future he's a credit to himself and the club. He comes across brilliantly. With how he's handled things,how he wants to play the game, what he's done for the U23's...he'll not struggle for a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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