MC11 Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 I like the look of him. Very raw still but certainly has potential to really crack on. That won’t be at Everton though. Let’s enjoy him whilst he’s here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, MC11 said: I like the look of him. Very raw still but certainly has potential to really crack on. That won’t be at Everton though. Let’s enjoy him whilst he’s here Gotta make hay whist the sun shines if we want to keep him. We never had the money to build a team around Rooney when he was 17. We do now. For me the weakest attacking link is Walcott. That can be addressed by brands going out and getting lozano... sadly Coleman needs replacing too. That last injury has took something from him. It remains to be seen if richarlison goes back to the left hand side and we buy a striker who the attacking players can pivot off or we use him central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 Pickford and Richarlison won't be here after 3 or 4 years regardless of how much we progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Aidan said: Pickford and Richarlison won't be here after 3 or 4 years regardless of how much we progress. Regardless of how much progress we make? So if we are top 4 and title contenders and get to cup finals and champs league you think they will still be off? Not necessarily. Outside the prem there are about 5 or 6 clubs that would be appealing... Real, Barca, Bayern, Juve, AC Milan.... pickford doesn't strike me as the sort to up sticks... Richarlison may be Barca quality but would be wanting to play every week. If we make a good fist of progressing then we could retain players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, hafnia said: Regardless of how much progress we make? So if we are top 4 and title contenders and get to cup finals and champs league you think they will still be off? Not necessarily. Outside the prem there are about 5 or 6 clubs that would be appealing... Real, Barca, Bayern, Juve, AC Milan.... pickford doesn't strike me as the sort to up sticks... Richarlison may be Barca quality but would be wanting to play every week. If we make a good fist of progressing then we could retain players. We realistically won't be top 4 in 3 years so unfortunately I fear Aidan is right, if they both carry on the way they are I think there be gone in 2years to make sure we get the max money for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 I think you are overly pessimistic Palfy I hope you are anyway, it is important to have a little faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 Just thinking rationally about it. Don't get me wrong, I hope they stay and help us achieve CL stature, but these guys may well have the potential to be in with a shout of winning the CL not just competing. But a long way off that, and I can't wait to enjoy them for the now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 He seems to have a special relationship with Silva, I don’t see him wanting to leave as long as Marco is here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 22, 2018 Report Share Posted November 22, 2018 With the new stadium on the horizon and the need to build a team to fill it, its going to be an exciting time at Everton. I for one hope to stick around and enjoy those exciting times. I think those two will also stick around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/11/22/tite-on-silva aaron and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 Richarlison starting to draw attention even on American media. Front page of the CNN website today: https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/22/football/richarlison-brazil-everton-watford-america-mineiro-spt-intl/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Isaiah said: Richarlison starting to draw attention even on American media. Front page of the CNN website today: https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/22/football/richarlison-brazil-everton-watford-america-mineiro-spt-intl/index.html "Pulling on the infamous yellow jersey [of Brazil] is something that took the youngster a while to come to terms with." Do Americans have a different interpretation of the word "infamous" or is that just a mistake? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 hour ago, MikeO said: "Pulling on the infamous yellow jersey [of Brazil] is something that took the youngster a while to come to terms with." Do Americans have a different interpretation of the word "infamous" or is that just a mistake? That must be a mistake. When I hear "infamous" I think famous for the wrong reasons. An outlaw, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 minute ago, sibdane said: That must be a mistake. When I hear "infamous" I think famous for the wrong reasons. An outlaw, for example. Exactly, just a mistake obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 4 hours ago, MikeO said: "Pulling on the infamous yellow jersey [of Brazil] is something that took the youngster a while to come to terms with." Do Americans have a different interpretation of the word "infamous" or is that just a mistake? Maybe it's infamous to them because they're scared of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, Aidan said: Maybe it's infamous to them because they're scared of them? We're not scared of anyone! Unless it's the Russians apparently. Aidan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 23, 2018 Report Share Posted November 23, 2018 4 hours ago, MikeO said: "Pulling on the infamous yellow jersey [of Brazil] is something that took the youngster a while to come to terms with." Do Americans have a different interpretation of the word "infamous" or is that just a mistake? Originally the word infamous meant famous and was used for both negative and positive reasons and some writers and journalists still use the word to mean good or bad, I think the reader has to understand the meaning of the article and place it accordingly. Well that's my take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnderToff Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 I think it's time to move him back out to the wing, it doesn't seem to be working as well and don't think he's quite ready to play in the middle. He looked his best (in the Derby) taking the ball out on the left and we often lost it trying to go through him when in the middle. I'd rather play him too his strength and relieve some of the added pressure on him, even if it means we've got to Bench a preferred player to bring on a CF. Maybe play him through the middle on a opponent/case by case basis. Wiggytop and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Playing him through the centre with his back to goal is making us lose a lot of the qualities he has coming in from the left. We’ve been ok with injuries so far but if we get any we have good variation to put him back on the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 I'm surprised there hasn't been a bigger deal made of his head movement towards the end of the game. He's a little too dramatic for me sometimes, and fiery in the wrong way. No doubt he's a very good talent but he needs to learn to manage his emotions better if he wants to excel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 You have to realise he is a young kid that doesn’t talk the language and gets booted a lot. It’s frustration but your right he has to reign it in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, Matt said: I'm surprised there hasn't been a bigger deal made of his head movement towards the end of the game. He's a little too dramatic for me sometimes, and fiery in the wrong way. No doubt he's a very good talent but he needs to learn to manage his emotions better if he wants to excel he's 21 matt, he's still a kid. he is growing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 33 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: he's 21 matt, he's still a kid. he is growing. Oh I know, which is why I want him to start so he can learn and improve. Concerns are still valid though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 8 hours ago, DownUnderToff said: I think it's time to move him back out to the wing, it doesn't seem to be working as well and don't think he's quite ready to play in the middle. He looked his best (in the Derby) taking the ball out on the left and we often lost it trying to go through him when in the middle. I'd rather play him too his strength and relieve some of the added pressure on him, even if it means we've got to Bench a preferred player to bring on a CF. Maybe play him through the middle on a opponent/case by case basis. I agree 100%, he has so much ability but it's not best suited to playing CF, he doesn't win enough of the upfield clearances with his head, DCL ( who may not be everyone's choice) came on yesterday and won the ones he got involved in, also if DCL was used as the striker, he can play OK out wide giving the opportunity of switching them around to unsettle the opposition. Decembers a long month with a lot of games, we need to use the squad to avoid injuries etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 34 minutes ago, Matt said: Oh I know, which is why I want him to start so he can learn and improve. Concerns are still valid though not really for me, he's brazilian and it's a part of their football culture and he's young, give him a couple more years and he will improve. now i don't think he will never play act again, but i think it will lessen as time goes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Its far better than anythig else we have upfront and he adds so much more to the team than the others. It may not be his best position but he is the best man for the job. Aidan, StevO and Shukes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnderToff Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 39 minutes ago, Bailey said: Its far better than anythig else we have upfront and he adds so much more to the team than the others. It may not be his best position but he is the best man for the job. Don't agree (so far). Think he's been the 3rd best we have at that role, but he's the best we have on the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Much better on the wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, DownUnderToff said: Don't agree (so far). Think he's been the 3rd best we have at that role, but he's the best we have on the left. In what way do you think the other 2 (presumably Cenk and DCL) are better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 At least he's scoring goals there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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