Cenk Tosun

[duncanmckenzieismagic 5,094]

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1321364/Everton-Transfer-News-Cenk-Tosun-Fenerbahce-West-Brom-Gossip-Latest

[markjazzbassist 3,005]

on 60k-70k a week, and we'd accept 7-9m it says.  west brom or turkish side interested.  in this market that sounds fair, i hope we are able to sell him instead of more loans.

[Matt 7,767]

28 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

on 60k-70k a week, and we'd accept 7-9m it says.  west brom or turkish side interested.  in this market that sounds fair, i hope we are able to sell him instead of more loans.

Especially since he’s coming back from a bad injury 

[Bailey 4,714]

If he isn't in our plans and as he isn't getting any younger then any money is good!

[chicagoblue 414]

Can't believe anyone is going to buy him with a torn ACL.  Be lucky to get a loan with someone paying full wages.

[Cisk 127]

Does anyone but me think he could be a good squad/bench filler. He does have the best finish in the squad after all - unsure what wages hes on. Taking 7m for him vs keeping as a squad filler (if not on ridiculous wages) makes me think best to keep him.

 

If DCL gets crocked - what's our options? Gordon is not the answer up top and jury still very much adjourned on Moise

[StevO 5,490]

I’m not even sure he is the best finisher in the squad. Any one on one situation there is only Richarlison I would want on the ball. 

[markjazzbassist 3,005]

3 hours ago, Cisk said:

Does anyone but me think he could be a good squad/bench filler. He does have the best finish in the squad after all - unsure what wages hes on. Taking 7m for him vs keeping as a squad filler (if not on ridiculous wages) makes me think best to keep him.

 

If DCL gets crocked - what's our options? Gordon is not the answer up top and jury still very much adjourned on Moise

Like Ste said richarlison is the best finisher we have.  DCL the other striker we also have kean.  That’s 3.  Walcott can play up top as well he did for arsenal as a 4th option.  Centre forward is the least of our worries.  

[Aidan 2,227]

On 13/08/2020 at 02:24, markjazzbassist said:

Like Ste said richarlison is the best finisher we have.  DCL the other striker we also have kean.  That’s 3.  Walcott can play up top as well he did for arsenal as a 4th option.  Centre forward is the least of our worries.  

I wouldn't mind it if we brought in a top quality centre half and moved Richy to the left though. 

[Romey 1878 13,120]

2 minutes ago, Aidan said:

I wouldn't mind it if we brought in a top quality centre half and moved Richy to the left though. 

Are you the Gravy Guzzler?

[Bailey 4,714]

30 minutes ago, Aidan said:

I wouldn't mind it if we brought in a top quality centre half and moved Richy to the left though. 

Interesting tactical move... I had never thought of replacing Richy up top with a centre back! 😁

[Btay 1,749]

32 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Are you the Gravy Guzzler?

I remember when he put chris samba up top 😂

[Aidan 2,227]

1 hour ago, Bailey said:

Interesting tactical move... I had never thought of replacing Richy up top with a centre back! 😁

Think i have a few too many last night! 

 

[Palfy 3,131]

5 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

Are you the Gravy Guzzler?

😂

[markjazzbassist 3,005]

6 hours ago, Aidan said:

Think i have a few too many last night! 

 

love ya aidan, you always brighten the place up with a laugh.  you have a good sense of humor, i really mean that.

[Aidan 2,227]

5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

love ya aidan, you always brighten the place up with a laugh.  you have a good sense of humor, i really mean that.

Glad my alcoholism makes this place a little better 😂 truth be told i love this place too. Always an escape from reality and a source of insight and entertainment. 

[MikeO 12,576]

1 hour ago, Aidan said:

Glad my alcoholism makes this place a little better 😂 truth be told i love this place too. Always an escape from reality and a source of insight and entertainment. 

Reality is very much over-rated in my experience.

[markjazzbassist 3,005]

20.33 BST: Everton were unable to offload Turkish forward Cenk Tosun this summer and we might have an answer as to why.

Turkish outlet Fotospor reports that Everton offered Tosun to his former club Besiktas, as well as arch-rivals Galatasaray and Fenerbahce. This reportedly angered Besiktas, with the Turkish club electing to pull out of negotiations.

Rivalry runs deep we guess!

 

 

 

just wanted to share this.

[Romey 1878 13,120]

10 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

20.33 BST: Everton were unable to offload Turkish forward Cenk Tosun this summer and we might have an answer as to why.

Turkish outlet Fotospor reports that Everton offered Tosun to his former club Besiktas, as well as arch-rivals Galatasaray and Fenerbahce. This reportedly angered Besiktas, with the Turkish club electing to pull out of negotiations.

Rivalry runs deep we guess!

 

 

 

just wanted to share this.

It might, just might, have a lot more to do with him still being injured!

[markjazzbassist 3,005]

3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

It might, just might, have a lot more to do with him still being injured!

injured players have been sold at the deadline before.  all the turks left the forum so we don't have anyone to offer their insight sadly.  he was a beast for besiktas (in the turkish league), i would think they'd be jumping to get him back.

[Romey 1878 13,120]

2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

injured players have been sold at the deadline before.  all the turks left the forum so we don't have anyone to offer their insight sadly.  he was a beast for besiktas (in the turkish league), i would think they'd be jumping to get him back.

This wasn't a small injury, it was a major injury. No club is going to buy a player that hasn't returned yet. That story is bollocks.

[StevO 5,490]

If they wanted him they could just leave him here to do some rehab and buy him in January, when he’ll probably still be injured. Rather than pay his wages and medical costs now. 

[Gwlad all over 533]

Why is he included in the 25 man squad if he's still injured?

[Romey 1878 13,120]

7 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said:

Why is he included in the 25 man squad if he's still injured?

Because he won’t be injured forever. 

[Aidan 2,227]

The reality is that if push comes to shove he is the only natural cover we have at CF. Although, I'm not sure we will see him feature again for us maybe his chance will come in the event of injuries when he is fit.

[Btay 1,749]

2 hours ago, Aidan said:

The reality is that if push comes to shove he is the only natural cover we have at CF. Although, I'm not sure we will see him feature again for us maybe his chance will come in the event of injuries when he is fit.

I think this league is to quick for him I’m afraid and that was before his injury.

[Romey 1878 13,120]

7 hours ago, Btay said:

I think this league is to quick for him I’m afraid and that was before his injury.

A striker is going to have to be a priority in the summer, because we have absolutely nothing behind the first teamers. Can't see Kean being here and Simms will need to go out on loan to try to show he can be part of the first team.

[Btay 1,749]

2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

A striker is going to have to be a priority in the summer, because we have absolutely nothing behind the first teamers. Can't see Kean being here and Simms will need to go out on loan to try to show he can be part of the first team.

Agreed. I believe we were looking for a counter attacking style CF at the end of the window, pace and finishing ability.

[Gwlad all over 533]

15 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

Because he won’t be injured forever. 

Maybe name someone who is fit to play right now?

[Romey 1878 13,120]

1 hour ago, Gwlad all over said:

Maybe name someone who is fit to play right now?

In that case, why is Gbamin named? Ah yes, because he should be fit to play before you get a chance to register your squad again after the January transfer window.

It’s really not that difficult to get why he’s been named. 

[StevO 5,490]

There is no benefit to leaving them off the list so it makes sense to put them on. 

[Sir McGiven 241]

On 22/10/2020 at 15:33, markjazzbassist said:

injured players have been sold at the deadline before.  all the turks left the forum so we don't have anyone to offer their insight sadly.  he was a beast for besiktas (in the turkish league), i would think they'd be jumping to get him back.

you sure?

I am here but mostly reading nowadays as I am busy as hell and don't have much to watch games. So I do not share my opinions as I might have missed many things already.

Regarding your other post, It is not a case that Besiktas not made a move because of he is offered to our rivals. We simply do not have money. We couldn't make a move for many, we weren't even active actually on the transfer window so that news is simply bullshit.

[markjazzbassist 3,005]

1 hour ago, Sir McGiven said:

you sure?

I am here but mostly reading nowadays as I am busy as hell and don't have much to watch games. So I do not share my opinions as I might have missed many things already.

Regarding your other post, It is not a case that Besiktas not made a move because of he is offered to our rivals. We simply do not have money. We couldn't make a move for many, we weren't even active actually on the transfer window so that news is simply bullshit.

thank you!  he's fit now and played today, hopefully Carlo can get something out of him and get him back into form.

[Matt 7,767]

He’ll probably get a run in a 442 next game, I hope so at least 

[Romey 1878 13,120]

47 minutes ago, Matt said:

He’ll probably get a run in a 442 next game, I hope so at least 

Need a better midfield behind or he'll not see the ball.

[Matt 7,767]

1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said:

Need a better midfield behind or he'll not see the ball.

Going 442 means we have to drop one of them so it’ll improve immensely 

[Romey 1878 13,120]

Just now, Matt said:

Going 442 means we have to drop one of them so it’ll improve immensely 

Fucking hell, more than one needs dropping. 

I need Sigurdsson out of the 11 because it's getting very close to me actually hating one of our own players.

[Gwlad all over 533]

Sorry Romey, he looked to me like he really was making an effort which was more than most of them.

[Romey 1878 13,120]

24 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said:

Sorry Romey, he looked to me like he really was making an effort which was more than most of them.

I want him to actually have an impact on the game, not just put effort in. Tom Davies gets praised for his effort because that's pretty much his entire role when he plays - put a shift in. Sigurdsson is there to make things happen - instead we get to watch him stand and point where players should play the ball (to anyone but him basically), put stupid fucking floaty set-pieces into the box, be a static caravan, and maybe every now and then decide to have a shot to make it look like he's actually doing something.

To top it off he's usually wearing the captain's armband when he puts these nothing performances in. He may not have been the worst Everton player out there but he was shit, and as a senior player (and captain) he should be stepping up not shying away.

[Btay 1,749]

4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

I want him to actually have an impact on the game, not just put effort in. Tom Davies gets praised for his effort because that's pretty much his entire role when he plays - put a shift in. Sigurdsson is there to make things happen - instead we get to watch him stand and point where players should play the ball (to anyone but him basically), put stupid fucking floaty set-pieces into the box, be a static caravan, and maybe every now and then decide to have a shot to make it look like he's actually doing something.

To top it off he's usually wearing the captain's armband when he puts these nothing performances in. He may not have been the worst Everton player out there but he was shit, and as a senior player (and captain) he should be stepping up not shying away.

90th minute, i think Keane threaded a ball and found glyfi  between the lines, 2 strikers uptop he just needed to turn and drive at the back 4 and maybe thread a pass. Instead tried to bounce it Bernard with a man on his shoulder, missed the pass and gave the ball away. He does not want the responsibility of the ball. Our captain and CM/CAM does not want the ball.

[Romey 1878 13,120]

47 minutes ago, Btay said:

90th minute, i think Keane threaded a ball and found glyfi  between the lines, 2 strikers uptop he just needed to turn and drive at the back 4 and maybe thread a pass. Instead tried to bounce it Bernard with a man on his shoulder, missed the pass and gave the ball away. He does not want the responsibility of the ball. Our captain and CM/CAM does not want the ball.

He makes my blood boil, he really does. 

[Hafnia 6,378]

12 hours ago, Btay said:

90th minute, i think Keane threaded a ball and found glyfi  between the lines, 2 strikers uptop he just needed to turn and drive at the back 4 and maybe thread a pass. Instead tried to bounce it Bernard with a man on his shoulder, missed the pass and gave the ball away. He does not want the responsibility of the ball. Our captain and CM/CAM does not want the ball.

Said it for months now, absolute coward.  He and Gomes are two of the most technically gifted players we have got, but lack the bottle to be a part of what this side needs to show and that is courage and hard work. 

They need to look at James.... Demands the ball when he is marked, has the strength of character to make plays that could make him look silly but is prepared to do it cos it can reap rewards 

We used to laugh at wee Joe Allen and his tippy tappy 5 yard safety passes and 90% completion of 100 passes...... We've got two of the biggest bluff merchants around. 

Poor Tom Davies, not good enough, probably knows he isn't but is brave enough to have a stab at it and gets lambasted whilst the aforementioned two get by on the occasional goal or crossfield ball whilst doing fuck all. 

[markjazzbassist 3,005]

i'm excited for Cenk, we've seen so many of our previous regime players have a go under Carlo and few have made the grade (Keane, Holgate, Digne, Coleman, Richarlison, DCL).  I really hope Cenk is able to get something going he still has another year on his contract, he could be the backup striker and rotation piece we need.  he was running hard out there hopefully some more time and he can get to scoring and get the confidence going.  i'd love to be set at striker for this campaign and next.

[Romey 1878 13,120]

2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

 i'd love to be set at striker for this campaign and next.

We'll only be set at striker if we sign one. Cenk is not the answer, unfortunately. 

[Sibdane 2,197]

He played okay when he came on, but we need someone who can come on and potentially change the game when they come on. 

[Bill 1,281]

Can't believe we can send Moise Kean away on loan, then have to rely on this fella. 😨

[MC11 1,176]

I think he’s a decent enough backup to DCL for now. Let’s see what he can do with Richarlison and James around him. 

[StevO 5,490]

9 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

i'm excited for Cenk, we've seen so many of our previous regime players have a go under Carlo and few have made the grade (Keane, Holgate, Digne, Coleman, Richarlison, DCL).  I really hope Cenk is able to get something going he still has another year on his contract, he could be the backup striker and rotation piece we need.  he was running hard out there hopefully some more time and he can get to scoring and get the confidence going.  i'd love to be set at striker for this campaign and next.

I love your enthusiasm Mark, but I think the only other person you’ll find excited by Cenk is Mrs Tosun. 

[Romey 1878 13,120]

48 minutes ago, StevO said:

I love your enthusiasm Mark, but I think the only other person you’ll find excited by Cenk is Mrs Tosun. 

Or whoever sells him the spray on hair he uses. 

[Bailey 4,714]

The issue with Tosun has been his physicality to play the one up front role that was asked of him under previous managers. His finishing and touch is generally good. If you look at how Ancellotti is playing DCL then it would suit Tosun better than previous managers.

He isn't going to set the world alight any time soon, but I could see him chipping in with a couple of goals and assists if he is needed regularly enough.

[Aidan 2,227]

5 hours ago, Bailey said:

The issue with Tosun has been his physicality to play the one up front role that was asked of him under previous managers. His finishing and touch is generally good. If you look at how Ancellotti is playing DCL then it would suit Tosun better than previous managers.

He isn't going to set the world alight any time soon, but I could see him chipping in with a couple of goals and assists if he is needed regularly enough.

Agreed, a fox in the box more than one to run channels or break the line.  I think he can finish, which is all he really needs to do. Not sure how good he is with his head, how most of out chances seem to be created with Dom. Maybe we would have to change the system slightly.

[markjazzbassist 3,005]

scored a penalty today for turkey.  let's hope that gets his confidence up and gets him firing for us as well

[Romey 1878 13,120]

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/everton-tosun-besiktas-important-ancelotti

If we could find someone to bring in in January I wouldn't even hesitate to let him go.

[StevO 5,490]

On 14/11/2020 at 09:55, Romey 1878 said:

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/everton-tosun-besiktas-important-ancelotti

If we could find someone to bring in in January I wouldn't even hesitate to let him go.

Me too, he’s never going to be good enough. Need to find someone to push Dom. 

[Shukes 4,245]

Another penalty tonight.

[Matt 7,767]

8 hours ago, StevO said:

Me too, he’s never going to be good enough. Need to find someone to push Dom. 

We were linked with Milik not long ago, I’d be happy with him and Isco in January 

[Btay 1,749]

6 hours ago, Matt said:

We were linked with Milik not long ago, I’d be happy with him and Isco in January 

Absolutely 

[Aidan 2,227]

13 hours ago, Matt said:

We were linked with Milik not long ago, I’d be happy with him and Isco in January 

Wonder if he would want to come without knowing he's going to start every game (I assume that would be the case and Carlo will only want to start 1 striker).