Abdoulaye Doucouré

[London Blue 2,246]

Doucoure is a beast of a player.

 

[markjazzbassist 3,187]

1 hour ago, London Blue said:

Doucoure is a beast of a player.

 

like gana you take them out of a relegation side and put good players around them and they really shine.

[Palfy 3,444]

44 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

like gana you take them out of a relegation side and put good players around them and they really shine.

Cough cough, please don’t start me off Mark by mentioning that fraud in the threads of proper footballers.

Thank you mate, as you can see we are so much better without him, it’s like not getting over a wife or partner who left you for someone with more money and a bigger dick, you wouldn’t keep bringing her up😉

Apologies in advance if that has happened. 

[Romey 1878 13,668]

Well this is awkward, I thought he and Allan were pretty poor as a partnership today .

[Palfy 3,444]

1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said:

Well this is awkward, I thought he and Allan were pretty poor as a partnership today .

Honesty is always the outcome. 

[London Blue 2,246]

18 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Well this is awkward, I thought he and Allan were pretty poor as a partnership today .

They were very good in some of the things they did, but the understanding was not there against a West Brom side that played very intelligent football. Our midfield looked disjointed, but that will go with time and experience.

[Romey 1878 13,668]

9 minutes ago, London Blue said:

They were very good in some of the things they did, but the understanding was not there against a West Brom side that played very intelligent football. Our midfield looked disjointed, but that will go with time and experience.

I can agree with that, I'm probably being a bit overly critical because of just how good they looked last week.

[London Blue 2,246]

1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said:

I can agree with that, I'm probably being a bit overly critical because of just how good they looked last week.

In a way it was easier against Spurs as the emphasis was on them to attack and we hit them on the counter and took control. Against West Brom they were better than Spurs and the emphasis was on us. Main thing is we got the 3 points.

[Romey 1878 13,668]

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/1862768/everton-midfielder-doucoure-reveals-personal-ambition

[markjazzbassist 3,187]

4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/1862768/everton-midfielder-doucoure-reveals-personal-ambition

it's interesting, the article i posted in the match day thread also said Carlo is a man of very few words.  Not a big rah rah type guy, just encouragement, and something small to improve on.  i'm guessing so many of these managers are yellers and screamers that when you get a calm collected Carlo, it's a different experience for the player.  probably why so many love him

[Hafnia 6,643]

45 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

it's interesting, the article i posted in the match day thread also said Carlo is a man of very few words.  Not a big rah rah type guy, just encouragement, and something small to improve on.  i'm guessing so many of these managers are yellers and screamers that when you get a calm collected Carlo, it's a different experience for the player.  probably why so many love him

He just cuts instructions to a minimum. 

Moyes used to give players loads of instructions.... It can be counter productive.  

He's a manager who rules by consequences....if you are crap you get dropped and replaced and he has the pull to bring in elite level replacements. 

They reckon silence is a big weapon, Ferguson used it alot. 

[barryj 1,184]

43 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

They reckon silence is a big weapon, Ferguson used it alot. 

Some in here could learn from that! 🤣 (want the axe emoji but not available on phone) 

[Btay 2,047]

6 hours ago, Hafnia said:

He just cuts instructions to a minimum. 

Moyes used to give players loads of instructions.... It can be counter productive.  

He's a manager who rules by consequences....if you are crap you get dropped and replaced and he has the pull to bring in elite level replacements. 

They reckon silence is a big weapon, Ferguson used it alot. 

Also accountability has been placed upon the players. Coleman eluded to it post final game last season. 

[Hafnia 6,643]

19 hours ago, barryj said:

Some in here could learn from that! 🤣 (want the axe emoji but not available on phone) 

Not sure the forum would survive....

[barryj 1,184]

58 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Not sure the forum would survive....

Only in certain threads for certain people 😂😉

[Hafnia 6,643]

Just now, barryj said:

Only in certain threads for certain people 😂😉

As if you hate it .....

[Romey 1878 13,668]

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/1878325/doucoure-on-overcoming-setbacks-and-ambition-to-be-great-player-for-everton

[MC11 1,220]

Not set the world a light so far. I thought he’d be more of a box to box midfielder. At present he seems very reluctant to get forward. 
 

[Palfy 3,444]

3 hours ago, MC11 said:

Not set the world a light so far. I thought he’d be more of a box to box midfielder. At present he seems very reluctant to get forward. 
 

I thought the same a very disappointing start to his Everton career, I was even expecting him to chip in with the odd goal now and then but honestly don’t remember him even having a shot at goal, very average at the moment. 

[StevO 5,809]

As with Gomes, until the last few games he was a big part of a team winning games.
 

Some of his link up with James and Coleman on the right has been great, and he has shown he can get back with real pace to cover when needed. 

Don’t have any disappointment with him personally. 

[Wiggytop 645]

I’m not disappointed with him, but I dont think we’ve seen anywhere near the best from him yet, something I’m looking forward to.

[RuffRob 516]

I think our midfeild will develop as we get in to the New Year and have said this from the beginning of the season. Still only a hand full of games and less that a couple of months for this group of midfeilders being together. I was really suprised how well the firsf couple of games went. Allan and Rodrigues do what they do as there roles are maybe a little more defined, - one create and the other destroy!!

Dacoure is a bit of both as and when needed in games. Slotting in as a right back at times on Sunday, so quite far removed from getting in and around the opositions box and scoring goals.

I think he is the midfeilder that we will start seeing steady improvment from with the benefit of more games. 

[MC11 1,220]

Really poor today and a very underwhelming signing so far.
 

Not sure what he’s bringing to the team at the moment other than holding his position? 

[Romey 1878 13,668]

14 minutes ago, MC11 said:

Really poor today and a very underwhelming signing so far.
 

Not sure what he’s bringing to the team at the moment other than holding his position? 

He didn't even do that, mate. Absolutely bobbins in all aspects today but particularly bad at passing to a team mate - the amount of times he gave the ball away in the middle of the park was criminal.

[Hafnia 6,643]

I still think bringing Ross Barkley back is a goer. Doucoure has been really poor of late. 

[MC11 1,220]

35 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

I still think bringing Ross Barkley back is a goer. Doucoure has been really poor of late. 

I think you’re right. He’s suit this team perfectly. 

[Palfy 3,444]

I blame Brands for his signing I doubt if Ancelotti had a clue who he was until he met Brand’s, some said he would be our best signing out of him Allan and James, let’s be honest Davies would do a far better job than him partnering Allan in the middle. 

[Palfy 3,444]

1 hour ago, Hafnia said:

I still think bringing Ross Barkley back is a goer. Doucoure has been really poor of late. 

That would be something but don’t think we will see that happening for a few years. 

[markjazzbassist 3,187]

I’m laughing because like everything on this forum it’s “what have you done for me lately”.  People raved about him when he first came here and He played well the first few games and people kept talking him up like a worldie.  He’s form has dropped and now “he’s shite” “get rid”.  FFS that’s stuff I expect from Liverpool and United fans not “thinking evertonians”.  He wears the badge let’s get behind him he’s played a ton of matches probably been one of the most consistent names on the team sheet, Might just need a rest.

 

 

 

[Bailey 4,988]

I thought he started the game really well. His runs were causing more problems than anyone else but then he got worse as the game went on. Moving him to the right wing back role was odd as well. 

Him and Allan were swamped today, as they were last week. Allan did really well with the ball this week and Doucoure didn't. Defensively they will both have issues whilst they are being over run because there is too much to do.

As an example, at one point today two of the Leeds players had the ball on the edge of the box and I think it led to a shot from Phillips. Doucoure was trying to cover both men as the rest of the side was out of shape and he still managed to get an important touch on the ball to make it an easier save. 

[Aidan 2,228]

Another player not benefiting from the change of formation. 

[Romey 1878 13,668]

1 hour ago, Aidan said:

Another player not benefiting from the change of formation. 

Who has benefitted from it? The whole team looks shambolic.

[Btay 2,047]

Formation has been needs must situation in my opinion. Both our starting fullbacks out at once. Do that to liverpool and they will struggle as well.

Lets not jump down Doucoures throat. Won the game last week with his goal. Knows he should have scored today as well but he’s in the right areas. He works damn hard and both him and Allan are struggling with the 2 man midfield which is understandable.

[Hafnia 6,643]

Not sure how formations affect a players ability to hit an accurate pass.  Lots of our players struggle with that. 

[Wiggytop 645]

Whole teams passing was awful yesterday, we played like were intimidated by Leeds

[Bailey 4,988]

1 hour ago, Hafnia said:

Not sure how formations affect a players ability to hit an accurate pass.  Lots of our players struggle with that. 

 

1 hour ago, Wiggytop said:

Whole teams passing was awful yesterday, we played like were intimidated by Leeds

I think it was a sign of confused minds under the pressure that Leeds bring. Its the only explanation I can think of as to why the whole team (bar Allan) was so far off it.

[Palfy 3,444]

16 hours ago, Bailey said:

I thought he started the game really well. His runs were causing more problems than anyone else but then he got worse as the game went on. Moving him to the right wing back role was odd as well. 

Him and Allan were swamped today, as they were last week. Allan did really well with the ball this week and Doucoure didn't. Defensively they will both have issues whilst they are being over run because there is too much to do.

As an example, at one point today two of the Leeds players had the ball on the edge of the box and I think it led to a shot from Phillips. Doucoure was trying to cover both men as the rest of the side was out of shape and he still managed to get an important touch on the ball to make it an easier save. 

He was one of our worse players yesterday if not the worst, haven’t seen more than a 5/10 from any pundits, and everyone mentioned the amount of possession he gave away as I and a few more highlighted here. 

[Palfy 3,444]

17 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

I’m laughing because like everything on this forum it’s “what have you done for me lately”.  People raved about him when he first came here and He played well the first few games and people kept talking him up like a worldie.  He’s form has dropped and now “he’s shite” “get rid”.  FFS that’s stuff I expect from Liverpool and United fans not “thinking evertonians”.  He wears the badge let’s get behind him he’s played a ton of matches probably been one of the most consistent names on the team sheet, Might just need a rest.

 

 

 

I’ve never raved about him, his last season at Watford told me he would be a gamble an expensive one at that. 

[Shukes 4,473]

27 minutes ago, Palfy said:

I’ve never raved about him, his last season at Watford told me he would be a gamble an expensive one at that. 

Don’t think anyone has to be fair. But again, slightest bit of criticism of a player and a few take exception to it... I put it down more to their flaws to be honest.

Don't think he was terrible yesterday, but also don’t think he has played anywhere near where he can yet either.

[Palfy 3,444]

1 minute ago, Shukes said:

Don’t think anyone has to be fair. But again, slightest bit of criticism of a player and a few take exception to it... I put it down more to their flaws to be honest.

Don't think he was terrible yesterday, but also don’t think he has played anywhere near where he can yet either.

More opinions nationally suggest he was terrible, the biggest sin is giving the ball away cheaply and he was our best player at doing that 10/10

[Wiggytop 645]

He’s not performed as I was expecting and hoping he would, but to add balance, ask yourself the question Doucoure or Schniederlin, and the former gets my vote. He covers a lot of ground, he will come good once we get a settled side, there’s too much change game to game IMO 

[Palfy 3,444]

48 minutes ago, Wiggytop said:

He’s not performed as I was expecting and hoping he would, but to add balance, ask yourself the question Doucoure or Schniederlin, and the former gets my vote. He covers a lot of ground, he will come good once we get a settled side, there’s too much change game to game IMO 

He would get mine in that scenario but two wrongs don’t make a right, and before people start spitting their dummies out I’m not saying it’s wrong he’s here as it wasn’t wrong that Schneiderlin was here, Schneiderlin didn’t live up to expectations and at the moment neither is Doucoure, what’s good for one imo has to be good for the others. 

[Hafnia 6,643]

I've seen enough from Doucoure to suggest he will be a good signing.  For £20m he cost next to nothing in this market.  

I think our struggles lie in the fact that we need to make siggy and Gomes non entity's - at the moment one of them is closer to the starting 11 than I would like them to be.

Hoijberg and Barkley to supplement Allan and Doucoure would give us the flexibility to try things like a double pivot but I'm thinking that if Gbamin makes a good first of it then it will give us a big boost. 

[Bailey 4,988]

6 hours ago, Palfy said:

He was one of our worse players yesterday if not the worst, haven’t seen more than a 5/10 from any pundits, and everyone mentioned the amount of possession he gave away as I and a few more highlighted here. 

I didn't say that he wasn't and I have said he was crap. I don't get your point. 

[Matt 8,123]

He was everywhere, but nothing came off for him. The whole teams been rough since the kopite game, and the system changing and him being bounced around positions made him look worse that he was. Doesn’t excuse the basic errors he made but nearly everyone was making them so I’m not going to single him out 

[StevO 5,809]

7 hours ago, Matt said:

He was everywhere, but nothing came off for him. The whole teams been rough since the kopite game, and the system changing and him being bounced around positions made him look worse that he was. Doesn’t excuse the basic errors he made but nearly everyone was making them so I’m not going to single him out 

I agree Matt. I think on the right hand side of a three he looked a lot more effective. Covering for James defensively and then linking up play too. Just had a few poor games by his own standard. If he scores in the first half the game is completely different, but small margins. 

[Romey 1878 13,668]

He'll now miss the Leicester game, rather than miss out against Villa.

I'd rather have had him for the Leicester game myself.

[FairWooney 139]

He'll miss the FA Cup game against Sheffield Wednesday won't he?  Cups normally count for suspensions

[Romey 1878 13,668]

1 hour ago, FairWooney said:

He'll miss the FA Cup game against Sheffield Wednesday won't he?  Cups normally count for suspensions

No, it’s just league games.