Popular Post c1982 Posted August 25, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Bill said: We also have bgamin so its not a disaster if we don't get him. Allan, Gomes, and Bgamin might be OK. It’s Gbamin, ibll. Fingers crossed that the wait will be worthwhile after a nightmare first season! Romey 1878, Bailey, Btay and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 We surely wont be getting held to ransom over Doucoure though. Sounds like Watford are trying to get us to offer what we offered last summer without acknowledging the goalpost have moved with their relegation. Doucoure is good but if James Rodriguez is cheaper id be going after him first and then even Rakitic. I think Gbabim will look to rotate with Allan mostly. Hopefully we can be in a position to ease him into the season. Potentially a good option at CB as well so he could save us a fortune. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 Watford are supposedly asking for a player to go the other way on loan as part of the deal, would be perfect to send Tom Davies there. He won’t get anywhere near out starting XI if we get Allan and Doucoure and a full season playing week in week out in the Championship would do him the world of good Romey 1878, Matt and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 48 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Watford are supposedly asking for a player to go the other way on loan as part of the deal, would be perfect to send Tom Davies there. He won’t get anywhere near out starting XI if we get Allan and Doucoure and a full season playing week in week out in the Championship would do him the world of good I think Anthony Gordon is ready to contribute but I also wouldn’t mind seeing him get a full year of games in a tough, competitive league to see if he can improve defensively and if his body can hold up for a full season with that type of physicality. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Watford are supposedly asking for a player to go the other way on loan as part of the deal, would be perfect to send Tom Davies there. He won’t get anywhere near out starting XI if we get Allan and Doucoure and a full season playing week in week out in the Championship would do him the world of good Gylfi dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 French television show Telefoot claims that Doucouré has made signing with the Toffees a priority, despite interest from other clubs. According to the media outlet via GFFN, the Frenchman has rejected interest from Wolves, Fulham and Hertha Berlin as he looks to join Carlo Ancelotti at Goodsion Park. We have been told the 27-year-old is likely to get his wish and a move back to the Premier League is the most probable outcome, but it is not the only option with a deal yet to be agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 Davies or Gordon going there would be really good for them. I’d rather Gordon to be honest, I think a year there would really toughen him up to first team football. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, StevO said: Davies or Gordon going there would be really good for them. I’d rather Gordon to be honest, I think a year there would really toughen him up to first team football. I agree. Could see Gordon doing well in the Championship. Not sure about Davies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 There’s no way I would be letting Gordon anywhere near them. They will probably have 3 managers this season. Gibson or branthwaite it will be. We have besic, bowler, Sandro, bolasie,Simms that could use a move aswell Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Bailey said: I agree. Could see Gordon doing well in the Championship. Not sure about Davies. I think Davies would do alright in the Championship because I believe that is just his level. He works hard and is a leader (would not have been given the captaincy otherwise), nobody can take that away from him. I just don’t think his technical ability and speed of thought is up to the standards of a premier league team with European ambition. Gordon is a different case. I think it’s clear he does have the brain and the ability to succeed at this level. What he lacks (in my opinion) the physicality and the defensive awareness are things that I believe can be improved. By all accounts he worked hard on his body during the shutdown and I would think focusing on that for another year or two would really do him well. I agree either of them would benefit from a season full of games, of course, and neither is likely to get it with our first team barring some bad injury luck. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Finn balor said: There’s no way I would be letting Gordon anywhere near them. They will probably have 3 managers this season. Gibson or branthwaite it will be. We have besic, bowler, Sandro, bolasie,Simms that could use a move aswell Simms, in particular, is a good shout though I like the idea of him learning the working man’s side of being a striker from DCL as that’s an area where he excels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, Finn balor said: There’s no way I would be letting Gordon anywhere near them. They will probably have 3 managers this season. Gibson or branthwaite it will be. We have besic, bowler, Sandro, bolasie,Simms that could use a move aswell We could field an entire XI of players that need a move J Virginia Pennington Branthwaite Gibson Connolly Bowler Adeniran Beni Bolasie Broadhead Simms Leaving room for subs: Sandro Tosun Besic StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 If we are not bringing in a new CB, which seems to be the case, then we can’t afford to let Branthwaite go anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: If we are not bringing in a new CB, which seems to be the case, then we can’t afford to let Branthwaite go anywhere Completely agree - it was combination tongue-in-cheek and what would be best for the player. Branthwaite would be much better served playing in the Championship this season than waiting for injuries in the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 I personally think Watford will dominate the Championship next season so am quite happy for a couple of our young fringe lads to be part of that. Romey 1878 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 48 minutes ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: We could field an entire XI of players that need a move J Virginia Pennington Branthwaite Gibson Connolly Bowler Adeniran Beni Bolasie Broadhead Simms Leaving room for subs: Sandro Tosun Besic Missed Davies, Delph and Siggy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, barryj said: Missed Davies, Delph and Siggy! Quite rightly not considered good enough for a second 11. AlbanyNYToffee and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 hours ago, SpartyBlue said: I think Davies would do alright in the Championship because I believe that is just his level. He works hard and is a leader (would not have been given the captaincy otherwise), nobody can take that away from him. I just don’t think his technical ability and speed of thought is up to the standards of a premier league team with European ambition. Gordon is a different case. I think it’s clear he does have the brain and the ability to succeed at this level. What he lacks (in my opinion) the physicality and the defensive awareness are things that I believe can be improved. By all accounts he worked hard on his body during the shutdown and I would think focusing on that for another year or two would really do him well. I agree either of them would benefit from a season full of games, of course, and neither is likely to get it with our first team barring some bad injury luck. He might do alright in the Championship but if he does he won't be any good for us. If so its pointless loaning him and we might as well cut our losses. Romey 1878 and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, c1982 said: I personally think Watford will dominate the Championship next season so am quite happy for a couple of our young fringe lads to be part of that. I think the concern is that the club seems rotten and run by idiots which will offer no stability for developing youth. chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 49 minutes ago, Matt said: I think the concern is that the club seems rotten and run by idiots which will offer no stability for developing youth. Despite this, they’ve just had one of the best periods in the clubs history - 5 years (not certain of this?) in the top division and a FA Cup runners-up in that time. It seems ridiculous what they do but, up until the Pearson sacking, it kind of worked for them. As for players, despite the huge turnover of managers, the team always seems pretty settled (bar post lockdown/ Pearson) so I’d feel pretty confident should we send players there. The big advantage they seem to have is with their links with Udinese and Granada (I think?) - they seem to get decent players in and I think this will see them dominate the Championship next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 On Watford’s owner... Pozzo runs an international scouting team of 25 to 30 people who seek players through attending every significant competition around the world, especially in developing markets like South America, Africa, and Eastern Europe.[6][7] Pozzo is reported to have a pattern of investing small sums of money into high-risk players. His larger clubs’ network has helped his business to minimize player acquisition costs while maximizing the profit from surging transfer fees as players are transferred and loaned among ‘sister clubs’ and later sold at a premium achieving high returns.[8][7] Pozzo's career experience and business model has led to identifying talent at his three clubs and has been consistently applied to Udinese Calcio for over 25 years, leading some to call it the "talent factory".[9] Granada CF and Watford achieved promotion to LaLiga and Premier League, respectively, through Pozzo's network and transformation from distressed situations. Pozzo's success includes the development of the clubs' own stadiums.[6][7][10] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 25/08/2020 at 17:34, c1982 said: It’s Gbamin, ibll. Fingers crossed that the wait will be worthwhile after a nightmare first season! I’m hoping it will be Bangin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 As for this one 'personal terms agreed'. Just trying to get the fee right with Watford. Be unbelievable if all 3 were to come. Best window I can remember even if we don't sign anybody else. Romey 1878 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Aidan said: As for this one 'personal terms agreed'. Just trying to get the fee right with Watford. Be unbelievable if all 3 were to come. Best window I can remember even if we don't sign anybody else. Best window since Baines, Jags and Pienaar. Aidan and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, StevO said: Best window since Baines, Jags and Pienaar. PeteO will be suicidal ! Sibdane and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: PeteO will be suicidal ! Surely even Pete can’t have a problem with that window. Three players who all turned out better than any of us could have hoped for. And the three of them for about 20% of what we paid for Gylfi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 i just don't understand doucoure, he's the same player as allan. is he the backup/rotation piece? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 4 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: i just don't understand doucoure, he's the same player as allan. is he the backup/rotation piece? Except they are nothing like. Bailey, plaidharper, chicagoblue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: i just don't understand doucoure, he's the same player as allan. is he the backup/rotation piece? Doucoure is more a box to box player mate. He is a very forward thinking mid, Will always want to get forward and support the forward line. Allan is the defensive mid, very much in the mood of Gana. Breaks up play, snaps at ankles, but can also turn a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 7 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: i just don't understand doucoure, he's the same player as allan. is he the backup/rotation piece? Do you mean the same player as in are they to go into the same starting XI? Surely you've seen him play before Mark? I think either he plays in a double pivot in midfield alongside Allan with Gomes on the bench, or in a 3 with Allan behind him and Gomes next to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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