MikeO 13,799 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 On 17/02/2016 at 12:32, StevO said: 3. car park, on site with season tickets. I've banged on about this plenty of times too. if you have a car park at the ground, sell the space as a season ticket. £150 to park at the ground for a season, if four of you go the game it becomes affordable. you'd never fit everyone in anyway, so make something good from what you have. 3 minutes ago, StevO said: I would like to see a multi storey car park near by, owned by the club, with spaces sold as a season ticket add on... You and that bloody car park, you're as bad as JB banging on about trains😂 Matt and StevO 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevO 6,141 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, MikeO said: You and that bloody car park, you're as bad as JB banging on about trains😂 I’m a lazy get Mike. I’d park next to the turnstile if they’d let me. I have a spot I’ve parked in for years, just off Queens Drive. But maybe two or three times each season someone else is there when I arrive. I swear, we lose every time I’m not in that parking spot. I need a parking space!! Zoo 2.0, Romey 1878 and MikeO 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markjazzbassist 3,411 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 To @StevO point it is also an excellent upsell for the club. In America it’s a standard package you get the season ticket and then you buy the parking spot additionally. Easy money for the club. Zoo 2.0 and StevO 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zoo 2.0 1,431 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 11 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: To @StevO point it is also an excellent upsell for the club. In America it’s a standard package you get the season ticket and then you buy the parking spot additionally. Easy money for the club. I never really thought about this but it is a good idea, having a set parking space is something that I'd purchase and I'm sure others would too, a nice little upsell as you say. At the moment I park outside the ground, £10-£15 which I'd rather put into the club than an independent operator. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bailey 5,173 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 I'm still not believing this until its built! 😂 dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevO 6,141 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 2 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: I never really thought about this but it is a good idea, having a set parking space is something that I'd purchase and I'm sure others would too, a nice little upsell as you say. At the moment I park outside the ground, £10-£15 which I'd rather put into the club than an independent operator. Exactly, good upsell. Id be willing to pay £150 per season to park safely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 8,499 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 So you’re all comfortable putting the kids who spend their entire afternoons looking after yer car there mate out of business? Monsters the lot of you. MikeO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wiggytop 714 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 5 hours ago, StevO said: I’m a lazy get Mike. I’d park next to the turnstile if they’d let me. I have a spot I’ve parked in for years, just off Queens Drive. But maybe two or three times each season someone else is there when I arrive. I swear, we lose every time I’m not in that parking spot. I need a parking space!! What if you had a space and we lost the first home game, we would have to kill you, and feed you to the fish in the Mersey ! StevO and MikeO 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeO 13,799 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 35 minutes ago, Wiggytop said: What if you had a space and we lost the first home game, we would have to kill you, and feed you to the fish in the Mersey ! StevO sleeps with the fishes (in Beando deep drawl). StevO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevO 6,141 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 56 minutes ago, MikeO said: StevO sleeps with the fishes (in Beando deep drawl). Mrs StevO is offended 😂 Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Palfy 3,854 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 I could be 65 if I’m lucky to see the inside of this ground, it is what it is I suppose. Would I get pensioners concession on a season ticket😉 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romey 1878 14,470 Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 Very interesting https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/new-images-show-how-everton-19907321 Matt, MikeO, London Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeO 13,799 Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 6 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Very interesting https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/new-images-show-how-everton-19907321 Impressive. Romey 1878 and Matt 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romey 1878 14,470 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-stadium-goodison-archibald-leitch-19933688 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duncanmckenzieismagic 5,633 Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 MikeO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Btay 2,353 Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 This stadium is going to be a great excuse for a trip back over to the UK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wiggytop 714 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 If anyone has the staying power to watch that, they deserve a medal for blue loyalty! pete0, StevO, Palfy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Palfy 3,854 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 55 minutes ago, Wiggytop said: If anyone has the staying power to watch that, they deserve a medal for blue loyalty! Agreed Wiggy even in lockdown there’s a limit to what you have time and patience to watch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeO 13,799 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 2 hours ago, Wiggytop said: If anyone has the staying power to watch that, they deserve a medal for blue loyalty! I skimmed through it for maybe forty minutes and watched the voting happen, our team were ultra-professional and the councillors were highly impressed by them and the plans (but we knew that anyway). I'd have watched it live if I'd known it was available, but no point watching the whole game when you know the result is there? Romey 1878 and StevO 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barryj 1,274 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 On 03/03/2021 at 11:00, MikeO said: I skimmed through it for maybe forty minutes and watched the voting happen, our team were ultra-professional and the councillors were highly impressed by them and the plans (but we knew that anyway). I'd have watched it live if I'd known it was available, but no point watching the whole game when you know the result is there? LCC need to produce a MOTD style highlights package. Saying that maybe not as if it was similar to MOTD we’d probably get 2 mins at the end devoted to us. MikeO, StevO and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romey 1878 14,470 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 The Government have asked for more time to make a decision https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/government-responds-councils-decision-approve-20180281 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duncanmckenzieismagic 5,633 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-bramley-moore-stadium-news-20187187 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duncanmckenzieismagic 5,633 Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 https://www.thebusinessdesk.com/northwest/news/2075884-chamber-leaders-lobby-government-over-bramley-moore-dock-stadium-plans Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markjazzbassist 3,411 Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 So strange you need federal approval for a local project. Here in the USA federal and states have loose guidelines and it’s the cities who have the control and strict guidelines. If the city approves, it’s a go. No further ok needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Palfy 3,854 Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: So strange you need federal approval for a local project. Here in the USA federal and states have loose guidelines and it’s the cities who have the control and strict guidelines. If the city approves, it’s a go. No further ok needed. That’s why corruption is rife in the state’s 😉😆 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markjazzbassist 3,411 Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, Palfy said: That’s why corruption is rife in the state’s 😉😆 it has more to do with "state's rights" and the anti-government stance the early americans had (due to british rule). they felt everything should be done locally, not unilaterally at the fed level. so if you need a new fence palfy, the prime minister has to sign off? if you build a new home, the minister of real estate has to approve it? seems a bit much Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 8,499 Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 30 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: it has more to do with "state's rights" and the anti-government stance the early americans had (due to british rule). they felt everything should be done locally, not unilaterally at the fed level. so if you need a new fence palfy, the prime minister has to sign off? if you build a new home, the minister of real estate has to approve it? seems a bit much 53,000 seater £505m project vs sticking up a fence in your backyard? MikeO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 8,499 Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 3 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: So strange you need federal approval for a local project. Here in the USA federal and states have loose guidelines and it’s the cities who have the control and strict guidelines. If the city approves, it’s a go. No further ok needed. Pretty sure this has already been explained, but this is more dotting i's and crossing t’s because of the scale of the project. Much like a city in the US still needs a building permit approval or a federal approval depending on the project type. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markjazzbassist 3,411 Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 4 minutes ago, Matt said: Pretty sure this has already been explained, but this is more dotting i's and crossing t’s because of the scale of the project. Much like a city in the US still needs a building permit approval or a federal approval depending on the project type. there is no federal approval. there is a building permit yes, but that's for the city its located in. in the case of bramley moore, this would have already broken ground in the US. it just seems to be unnecessary regulation. what does a guy in london know about the docks in liverpool? the guy probably has never even been there before, so what does his opinion matter? what insight will he provide? what insider knowledge? those are rhetorical, i already know the answers to them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pete0 2,215 Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 The government knocked back the Kirkby stadium as they said it would impact the economic of nearby areas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 8,499 Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 10 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: there is no federal approval. there is a building permit yes, but that's for the city its located in. in the case of bramley moore, this would have already broken ground in the US. it just seems to be unnecessary regulation. what does a guy in london know about the docks in liverpool? the guy probably has never even been there before, so what does his opinion matter? what insight will he provide? what insider knowledge? those are rhetorical, i already know the answers to them There is federal approval in the US depending on the size of the project and the type of project. the big difference is that you’ve got more space and less history to worry about MikeO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Palfy 3,854 Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: it has more to do with "state's rights" and the anti-government stance the early americans had (due to british rule). they felt everything should be done locally, not unilaterally at the fed level. so if you need a new fence palfy, the prime minister has to sign off? if you build a new home, the minister of real estate has to approve it? seems a bit much It doesn’t quite go that far but not far off, we Brits are very subservient and know how to tow the line. Local government have most of the say on local issues, but when it’s a project of this size in a historical site that has objections from some bodies then they obliged to look at it, but I have no doubt it will go through because of the money jobs it will generate in the economy in the area. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markjazzbassist 3,411 Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 38 minutes ago, Matt said: There is federal approval in the US depending on the size of the project and the type of project. the big difference is that you’ve got more space and less history to worry about there is not matt, not sure where you are getting that. cleveland is building a skyscraper for a headquarters for a company, the company worked with the city and that alone to secure it. feds and state have nothing to do with it. they have safety rules and code that need to be met, but nothing needs "approved" and no one at state or fed level is rubber stamping it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeO 13,799 Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, Matt said: the big difference is that you’ve got more space and less history to worry about Was going to say similar, Liverpool is only 200 miles from London so the suggestion that people in London know nothing of Liverpool is moot, though probably correct for some (most southern Liverpool fans have never been north of Watford). We don't have massive empty tracts of land like the US and we do have have far more heritage sites to protect. Just not a forgotten rotting dock with historically interesting bits that nobody's allowed to visit. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 8,499 Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: there is not matt, not sure where you are getting that. cleveland is building a skyscraper for a headquarters for a company, the company worked with the city and that alone to secure it. feds and state have nothing to do with it. they have safety rules and code that need to be met, but nothing needs "approved" and no one at state or fed level is rubber stamping it. Google is where I got that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hafnia 7,022 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 It's took the government years to give a few quid towards the rebuild of new ferry after the gas explosion.... A clear example as to what they think of the area up here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barryj 1,274 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 14 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: there is no federal approval. there is a building permit yes, but that's for the city its located in. in the case of bramley moore, this would have already broken ground in the US. it just seems to be unnecessary regulation. what does a guy in london know about the docks in liverpool? the guy probably has never even been there before, so what does his opinion matter? what insight will he provide? what insider knowledge? those are rhetorical, i already know the answers to them I’m not American or vastly knowledgable in the building regulations over here or over the pond. However a quick google and it appears some projects over your way don’t go as easily as you make out. Supreme and Federal Courts getting involved etc There is no way you build a huge stadium on the historic docks of Liverpool with UNESCO world heritage site status and other historic importance and it’s not overseen by government. It’s right it goes there but IMO it’s right it’ll be approved and let’s hope it won’t take them long. Matt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 8,499 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 9 minutes ago, barryj said: I’m not American or vastly knowledgable in the building regulations over here or over the pond. However a quick google and it appears some projects over your way don’t go as easily as you make out. Supreme and Federal Courts getting involved etc There is no way you build a huge stadium on the historic docks of Liverpool with UNESCO world heritage site status and other historic importance and it’s not overseen by government. It’s right it goes there but IMO it’s right it’ll be approved and let’s hope it won’t take them long. Just like you can’t just build wherever you want without an environmental report. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevO 6,141 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 18 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: there is not matt, not sure where you are getting that. cleveland is building a skyscraper for a headquarters for a company, the company worked with the city and that alone to secure it. feds and state have nothing to do with it. they have safety rules and code that need to be met, but nothing needs "approved" and no one at state or fed level is rubber stamping it. But each of the countries in the UK are smaller than most states. So for our national government to be involved and your national government to be involved are two very different scales. For us national government approval would be a similar scale to state government approval. It’s no big deal though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 8,499 Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, StevO said: But each of the countries in the UK are smaller than most states. So for our national government to be involved and your national government to be involved are two very different scales. For us national government approval would be a similar scale to state government approval. It’s no big deal though. Most of their cities are bigger than our counties StevO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duncanmckenzieismagic 5,633 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 https://www.footballinsider247.com/everton-saved-from-ffp-crash-by-usmanov-amid-20m-yr-deal-maguire/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markjazzbassist 3,411 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Does anyone know if the Bramley Moore expenses are part of our budget or is that a separate entity on its own or that moshiri is doing? im trying to see if the massive losses are due to bramley moore costs in addition to loss of revenue (no fans) and transfers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Palfy 3,854 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 3 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: Does anyone know if the Bramley Moore expenses are part of our budget or is that a separate entity on its own or that moshiri is doing? im trying to see if the massive losses are due to bramley moore costs in addition to loss of revenue (no fans) and transfers. It was for the financial year 19/20 fans were present up to then, some money would have been spent on the Bramley Moore project, I would guess from what I’ve read in the past at about 3-4% of the 140m loses, but no where near what Usmanov ploughed into the club. Most of the the debt is transfers and having by far the highest wages bill in the league against turnover, with some 86% of our turnover going in wages. Matt and Steve are share holders I believe so they may have accounts to hand for a better appraisal of what has happened. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 8,499 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, Palfy said: It was for the financial year 19/20 fans were present up to then, some money would have been spent on the Bramley Moore project, I would guess from what I’ve read in the past at about 3-4% of the 140m loses, but no where near what Usmanov ploughed into the club. Most of the the debt is transfers and having by far the highest wages bill in the league against turnover, with some 86% of our turnover going in wages. Matt and Steve are share holders I believe so they may have accounts to hand for a better appraisal of what has happened. I wish I was, but unfortunately not. However, I’m quite adept with google https://www.evertonfc.com/club/shareholders/statement-of-accounts happy reading! London Blue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevO 6,141 Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 17 hours ago, Palfy said: It was for the financial year 19/20 fans were present up to then, some money would have been spent on the Bramley Moore project, I would guess from what I’ve read in the past at about 3-4% of the 140m loses, but no where near what Usmanov ploughed into the club. Most of the the debt is transfers and having by far the highest wages bill in the league against turnover, with some 86% of our turnover going in wages. Matt and Steve are share holders I believe so they may have accounts to hand for a better appraisal of what has happened. I stopped reading the accounts after Moshiri came in. I feel it’s sort of pointless in that money is getting splashed about, and when the debts get too big he pays them off and takes more control of the club. So the financial result is kind of irrelevant at the moment. I suspect after the stadium has been built Moshiri will want to see the accounts stabilise. I used to get all wound up by the “other expenses” nonsense, not that it makes any difference at all to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bailey 5,173 Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 On 17/03/2021 at 19:43, pete0 said: The government knocked back the Kirkby stadium as they said it would impact the economic of nearby areas. Thank God! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Palfy 3,854 Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, StevO said: I stopped reading the accounts after Moshiri came in. I feel it’s sort of pointless in that money is getting splashed about, and when the debts get too big he pays them off and takes more control of the club. So the financial result is kind of irrelevant at the moment. I suspect after the stadium has been built Moshiri will want to see the accounts stabilise. I used to get all wound up by the “other expenses” nonsense, not that it makes any difference at all to me. I’m pretty much the same I’m a fan not a owner or major shareholder, all though I do understand the concept that if things aren’t run correctly with the sort of money we are talking about things can quite easily take a turn for the worse, but I just want to see a successful team playing good football and let others take care of the rest, and hopefully it won’t be to much longer before I get my wish. StevO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duncanmckenzieismagic 5,633 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/evertons-new-stadium-hopes-given-20247399 Romey 1878 and StevO 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hafnia 7,022 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 18 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/evertons-new-stadium-hopes-given-20247399 It's a no brainer, leaving positive things in our old area as opposed to the kopites. ... Generating positive things in a currently derelict area. StevO, Matt and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post MikeO 13,799 Posted March 26 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 26 Government approved it! https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2077930/everton-stadium-plans-receive-government-approval Romey 1878, StevO, markjazzbassist and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevO 6,141 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Best news all week! brilliant! dunlopp9987, Bailey and Gwlad all over 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hafnia 7,022 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Yessssss!!!!!! Get in there!!! dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romey 1878 14,470 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 What a day in our history this is. It was never in doubt it would happen but I'm so pleased to have it officially now. Onwards and upwards. MikeO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpartyBlue 358 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Forgive my ignorance as I live across the ocean but what’s the next step? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwlad all over 700 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 57 minutes ago, SpartyBlue said: Forgive my ignorance as I live across the ocean but what’s the next step? Build it!! SpartyBlue, Romey 1878, MikeO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,348 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Stick the spades into the ground. SpartyBlue, StevO and MikeO 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeO 13,799 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Wonder if they'll be selling off bits of Goodison, I know Arsenal sold bits of Highbury when they moved, think Spurs did to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barryj 1,274 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Brilliant news! So pleased and upset at the same time. The countdown really is on now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Palfy 3,854 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 4 hours ago, MikeO said: Government approved it! https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2077930/everton-stadium-plans-receive-government-approval The man from the government he say yes 🙌 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevO 6,141 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Bill said: Stick the spades into the ground. You’d just get a wet spade 😂 Bill 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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