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9 hours ago, Matt said:

Unfortunately already here. Watch it again and then tell me it wasn’t intended 

 

27 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Defo after Intended, I could do that at my level... I’m sure pro footballers are capable of it.

I didn't say it wasn't intended. 

Thats not the point at all. The only thing Digne could do was head the ball, not to mention the fact it was played behind him. He even had 1 leg out of play.

How Digne got it to Gordon was a miracle. How he got it to another blue shirt is a miracle. How he managed to just generally not cause a turnover was pretty incredible. 

It was a terrible decision to play the ball to where he did but it is one that he got away with because of the brilliance of Digne. 

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37 minutes ago, Bailey said:

I didn't say it wasn't intended. 

Thats not the point at all. The only thing Digne could do was head the ball, not to mention the fact it was played behind him. He even had 1 leg out of play.

How Digne got it to Gordon was a miracle. How he got it to another blue shirt is a miracle. How he managed to just generally not cause a turnover was pretty incredible. 

It was a terrible decision to play the ball to where he did but it is one that he got away with because of the brilliance of Digne. 

If you look at Holgate's eyes and the fact that the defender cut off a ball along the ground I think you have to give him the benefit of the doubt for the chip; certainly it wasn't inch perfect as Lucas had to move back a few feet but how many passes are inch perfect? Watched it multiple times and I have to side with Mason, it wasn't a perfect pass but it was pretty damn good and Digne's reaction made it perfect.

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2 hours ago, Shukes said:

Pretty bog standard header for me. Nothing miraculous about it, easy to control a header of that pace. Not taking anything away from Digne for it, just don’t see anything special there.

Agreed at the time I never felt that something incredible had happened leading up to the goal, and having revisited it I still don’t.  

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On 04/07/2020 at 23:47, MikeO said:

If you look at Holgate's eyes and the fact that the defender cut off a ball along the ground I think you have to give him the benefit of the doubt for the chip; certainly it wasn't inch perfect as Lucas had to move back a few feet but how many passes are inch perfect? Watched it multiple times and I have to side with Mason, it wasn't a perfect pass but it was pretty damn good and Digne's reaction made it perfect.

 

On 05/07/2020 at 11:06, Shukes said:

Pretty bog standard header for me. Nothing miraculous about it, easy to control a header of that pace. Not taking anything away from Digne for it, just don’t see anything special there.

 

On 05/07/2020 at 13:18, Palfy said:

Agreed at the time I never felt that something incredible had happened leading up to the goal, and having revisited it I still don’t.  

I'm bloody glad I have never played football with you lot! 

We might need to check Holgate's passport though, as he is clearly Brazilian!

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5 minutes ago, Bailey said:

 

 

I'm bloody glad I have never played football with you lot! 

We might need to check Holgate's passport though, as he is clearly Brazilian!

Haha it was clearly a “dink” into Dignes head, Holgate pretty much made the pass for him 😉

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3 minutes ago, Bailey said:

We might need to check Holgate's passport though, as he is clearly Brazilian!

That's the thing though isn't it, had a Brazilian defender done it you'd think he meant it, but because it was Mason from Doncaster it was pure luck.

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10 minutes ago, Bailey said:

 

 

I'm bloody glad I have never played football with you lot! 

We might need to check Holgate's passport though, as he is clearly Brazilian!

😂 If you had played football with me you would have to of been bloody good, maybe that’s why you never played with me😉

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4 hours ago, MikeO said:

That's the thing though isn't it, had a Brazilian defender done it you'd think he meant it, but because it was Mason from Doncaster it was pure luck.

No, I know he meant to play it to him, maybe not quite where he did, my point is that it was a poor decision because 99/100 its a turnover. 

It was a poor decision and average ball made to look good by the work of Digne. 

Anyways let's put this one on the agree to disagree pile. Might need a step ladder :)

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30 minutes ago, RuffRob said:

Its a sad reflection of media these days, everything is sensationalised, scrutinised, every expert and non expert has an opinion they want to shout about and share with anybody who will listen. The truths of an issue does now seem to be overly important. Why let the truth get in the way of a good story!! 

It the 21st centry version of the lynch mod. All played out on social media.

I always feel sorry for any individual who get caught in these crossfires of social outcry - whether it be fooballers, celebrities or politisons.

agreed, also would like to add the "cancel culture" whereby someone does one thing wrong and society writes them off completely.  one of the many reasons i don't participate in social media any more.

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On 20/10/2020 at 13:25, RuffRob said:

Its a sad reflection of media these days, everything is sensationalised, scrutinised, every expert and non expert has an opinion they want to shout about and share with anybody who will listen. The truths of an issue does now seem to be overly important. Why let the truth get in the way of a good story!! 

It the 21st centry version of the lynch mod. All played out on social media.

I always feel sorry for any individual who get caught in these crossfires of social outcry - whether it be fooballers, celebrities or politisons.

They will all temporarily do "be nice" soundbites like they did after Caroline flack.

It's very easy to get roped in.  Take for example the "Sean promise" lad, offering to straighten Pickford out to VVD..... It works 2 ways. 

1.  He's threatening a players safety. This impacts on the players mental welfare

2.  He's now the subject of numerous tweets and ridicule which is going to impact on his wellbeing 

Very fragile ground. 

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24 minutes ago, Aidan said:

Strange one, it was clearly an accident and was in no way reckless. 

they were never going to rescind it, i was hoping for the 1 game ban the whole time.  they won't admit they are wrong, simply just the harmful intent part.  very happy with the result, we should be alright without him for 1 match, a nice chance to see Niels in action.

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2 hours ago, Aidan said:

Strange one, it was clearly an accident and was in no way reckless. 

I don’t tho k him chasing him down was an accident, he clearly knew what he was doing. Clipping his heel may have been an accident, but putting himself in that space wasn’t. 
 

A one match ban is great news and sensible.

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23 minutes ago, Wiggytop said:

Best we were ever going to get IMO, the TV and papers have continued to crucify Pickford and the team since last weekend, this is partly retribution, but they couldn’t get away with 3 games.

I agree with the Pickford stuff.

But was his would have been a yellow at least in any match. Possibly red because he had a nibble earlier. In real time I said out loud before he even got there... “ here comes a red”.... because I could easily see he had a kick and it didn’t work, so he chased him down. 
Wether he meant it or not Doesn’t matter, it’s how it looked. 
 

But we should take the good luck and accept it, not cry victim like Liverpool supporters. 
 

sorry for quoting you Wiggy haha. Meaning fans in general 🙂

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38 minutes ago, Shukes said:

I don’t tho k him chasing him down was an accident, he clearly knew what he was doing. Clipping his heel may have been an accident, but putting himself in that space wasn’t. 
 

A one match ban is great news and sensible.

Digne was chasing him to recover the ball and his foot went accidently down the back of the attackers leg.

I'm actually not really sure what boxes he ticks to be in the wrong. The fact he'd just made a foul in the build up makes him appear out of control, and I suppose that was wrongly taken into consideration when the decision was made to give him a red 

The ref was wrong, as was the VAR and the FA clearly refuses to admit they were fully in the wrong by not completely uplifting it. 

On the whole, however, I do suppose it evens out the Pickford incident. 

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'A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.' 

That's the rule for serious foul play, which is my guess is to why he was sent off and what the ban was for. He is either guilty of this or isn't, and therefore should serve a 3 match ban, or no ban.

I think the FA have just made it up as they've gone along. 

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8 minutes ago, Aidan said:

Digne was chasing him to recover the ball and his foot went accidently down the back of the attackers leg.

I'm actually not really sure what boxes he ticks to be in the wrong. The fact he'd just made a foul in the build up makes him appear out of control, and I suppose that was wrongly taken into consideration when the decision was made to give him a red 

The ref was wrong, as was the VAR and the FA clearly refuses to admit they were fully in the wrong by not completely uplifting it. 

On the whole, however, I do suppose it evens out the Pickford incident. 

Running behind a player always means you can’t get to the ball without going through a leg. It’s simple really.

If you want to make a tackle legally, you have to get goal side or at least work down the side, which is a risk. 
 

Try running into a garage, with a garage door in the way. You simply won’t get through without hitting the door.

Don't get me wrong, I’m happy it’s been downgraded, but I refuse to do what Liverpool have done all week and cry victim.  If it was against us, I would be expecting a yellow at the minimum.

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Just now, Shukes said:

Running behind a player always means you can’t get to the ball without going through a leg. It’s simple really.

If you want to make a tackle legally, you have to get goal side or at least work down the side, which is a risk. 

He didn't make a tackle. 

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1 minute ago, Aidan said:

'A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.' 

That's the rule for serious foul play, which is my guess is to why he was sent off and what the ban was for. He is either guilty of this or isn't, and therefore should serve a 3 match ban, or no ban.

I think the FA have just made it up as they've gone along. 

Exactly, we’re lucky. Black and white there, you quoted it yourself.

Lets just accept the one match ban 🙂

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1 minute ago, Aidan said:

He didn't make a tackle. 

Exactly. Running into a players ankle and not even attempting a tackle is clumsy at best. 
 

Are we on the same point here? Your writing my posts better than I ever could 😉

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Just now, Shukes said:

Exactly. Running into a players ankle and not even attempting a tackle is clumsy at best. 
 

Are we on the same point here? Your writing my posts better than I ever could 😉

As you can see by my previous post Shukes Im confused so I'll leave this one as it is 😂

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50 minutes ago, Shukes said:

But we should take the good luck and accept it, not cry victim like Liverpool supporters. 
 

sorry for quoting you Wiggy haha. Meaning fans in general 🙂

I’m not crying, just saying as I see it, quote me all you like, I need a virtual hug every now and then!

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Well that's Christmas ruined ain't it, proper love Digne so gutted about this. He won't be on the same level, but at least Nkounkou has been promising when he's played so it's not as though we're having to put some whopper there. 

Probably won't be a big enough injury to bring Sir Leighton out of retirement, but who knows. He'll more than likely still be in shape, so could be a cheap emergency option.

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24 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

Well that's Christmas ruined ain't it, proper love Digne so gutted about this. He won't be on the same level, but at least Nkounkou has been promising when he's played so it's not as though we're having to put some whopper there. 

Probably won't be a big enough injury to bring Sir Leighton out of retirement, but who knows. He'll more than likely still be in shape, so could be a cheap emergency option.

In a couple of weeks time it will be two games a week - so loads of football to be played in the next couple of months - I would feel much better in the though of Baines potentially being available for selection in two or three weeks time if he was needed. I personal though he maybe retired a year or two early anyhow as still performing at a very good level last season - but I can understand him not wanting to play second fiddle all season and not wanting to go to any other club  :) respect!! I am pretty sure he would step up if Ancelotti said he could do with him over Xmas and into the New Year. 

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Bad news, he’s been Mr Creator when Richys ahead of him, hopefully he comes back quickly, but let’s not whinge about it like over the park do, it’s part of the game.

Big chance for Niels to show he can step up, with Leighton as added cover if he’s able, anyone but Delph, please !

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