plaidharper 326 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Think about this - we got Lucas Digne and Andre Gomes for £40m combined. That sort of quality for less than we paid for Sigurdsson. Shows what having a good negotiator, rather than a PE teacher, in charge of transfers brings about. This. This. This! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tonsta 68 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 At last we have replaced Arteta Matt and Shukes 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shukes 4,473 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Tonsta said: At last we have replaced Arteta Oh no you didn’t hahaha! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 8,123 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Tonsta said: At last we have replaced Arteta Let’s hope he doesn’t get played on right wing... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hafnia 6,643 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 23 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Think about this - we got Lucas Digne and Andre Gomes for £40m combined. That sort of quality for less than we paid for Sigurdsson. Shows what having a good negotiator, rather than a PE teacher, in charge of transfers brings about. The best signing Walsh made was Gana.... and that was owing to the fact he had a release clause. Bolassie £28m still bemuses me.... we got Gomes for £6m less..... Matt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hafnia 6,643 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just gotta find the best role for him. For me he has a lot to offer advancing with the ball, I don't want him deep. A good solid pre season, get him settled with permanent residence and I think we will see him fly. Captain material potentially. Matt and Bailey 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Btay 2,047 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, hafnia said: Just gotta find the best role for him. For me he has a lot to offer advancing with the ball, I don't want him deep. A good solid pre season, get him settled with permanent residence and I think we will see him fly. Captain material potentially. He’s got everything you need to be a quality midfielder. Big season for him. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn balor 2,051 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, hafnia said: Just gotta find the best role for him. For me he has a lot to offer advancing with the ball, I don't want him deep. A good solid pre season, get him settled with permanent residence and I think we will see him fly. Captain material potentially. It’s good to think we have numerous captain material type of players now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hafnia 6,643 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Finn balor said: It’s good to think we have numerous captain material type of players now I think we have had some bad eggs in the side. We've needed to rebalance the toxicity levels, it seems Morgan is back on board, mirallas gone, Williams gone, lukaku gone, players like Digne, Bernie, DCL, Gana, Zouma have come in and set a good tone. Pickford showed signs of letting his ego rule his head and that seems to have been getting sorted. A number 2 who can push him will help also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 8,123 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Finn balor said: It’s good to think we have numerous captain material type of players now We’ve thought that before.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wiggytop 645 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, hafnia said: mirallas gone, Has he, where and when? Certainly hope so Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Ghoat 332 Posted June 21, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 hours ago, hafnia said: I think we have had some bad eggs in the side. We've needed to rebalance the toxicity levels, it seems Morgan is back on board, mirallas gone, Williams gone, lukaku gone, players like Digne, Bernie, DCL, Gana, Zouma have come in and set a good tone. Pickford showed signs of letting his ego rule his head and that seems to have been getting sorted. A number 2 who can push him will help also. Maybe I'm looking thru blue-tinted glasses, but I agree. It's all speculation from the outside, but it appears the current management has greatly improved the quality inside the dressing room even more than quality on the pitch. I'm guessing a more defined "culture" and a consistent set of expectations from a management team that is unified is creating an environment the players have bought in to. I think that starts with getting good players, who are "good eggs" focused on doing the collective job the manager has set forth, and their role to achieve it - not their individual goals that may or may not align. And those on the fence either buy in, or find a different situation for themselves. The "toxic" players you mentioned have all been removed from the locker room, or will be, in one way or another - when Brands finds the best return for the club. I think the change in Morgan is a perfect example. So is the Gana situation - where he seemed excited for opportunity that was even better than the one he had. And when it failed to materialize, instead of sulking his way the rest of the term with little to actually play for, he returned and played some of the best football of his career. Didn't really hear public chirping about transfers or playing time from players or agents who's roles weren't as big as expected - Davies, Morgan, Walcott, Lookman, Tosen, Baines lost his job, and just signed on for another year to work, train, and watch Digne play etc. I don't think Vlasic was happy with his role, so he's been moved, and I think the same may happen with Henry with the right offer (I'm sure he frustrated with the permit too) And Gomes...bought in the system (not to mention the charity work in the community) and went from being lost in the woods, to a star EPL CM just entering his prime with many interested suitors. We could have been a one year stepping stone for his career, and that really wouldn't have been unfair. But it appears he wanted to hitch his star to THIS manager, THIS club and play his role in management's vision. It appears, at least, Zouma may be similar. When you add all that up and look at how we closed the year...it doesn't look like unconnected dots, it looks like a plan and a growing culture within the squad. Blue-tinted glasses and all! Johnsy, StevO, Hafnia and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn balor 2,051 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Top post pal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn balor 2,051 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 We get off to a flyer in the first four games and confidence will be sky highly after the finish to last season Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barryj 1,184 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/what-barcelona-fans-really-think-16466791 Makes sense why we could get him a little cheaper than most thought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn balor 2,051 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just read that then. They need £60 mill in sales before end of the month. Interesting 🤔 how much do they want for Malcolm? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markjazzbassist 3,187 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 makes Brands look even better in my eyes. used that as leverage to lower the fee. should have been 30m, saved 8m. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pete0 2,042 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Fornals went for similar, maybe that's just the going rate in Spain atm. StevO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn balor 2,051 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, pete0 said: Fornals went for similar, maybe that's just the going rate in Spain atm. That kid is going to be a superstar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,300 Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 This is taking a long time considering it was a "done deal" nearly a week ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn balor 2,051 Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 We doing the old let Barca pay his wages for a weeks? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 8,123 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 8 hours ago, Bill said: This is taking a long time considering it was a "done deal" nearly a week ago. Double deal inbound DavisJD and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn balor 2,051 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 🤔 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markjazzbassist 3,187 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Matt said: Double deal inbound Gomes and Malcolm would be amazing. Help them with their cash flow issues and we get them on the cheap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn balor 2,051 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 One Spanish paper says we are holding the deal up but no reason given. Maybe we don’t want another player. Maybe Malcolm on loan? Give them first dibs on Charly when that day comes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zoo 2.0 1,003 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Finn balor said: One Spanish paper says we are holding the deal up but no reason given. Maybe we don’t want another player. Maybe Malcolm on loan? Give them first dibs on Charly when that day comes? Brands is more than likely trying to work Malcom into the deal. The Yerry Mina transfer was delayed in order to sign André Gomes as we wanted to loan and Barcelona wanted to sell. Barça are really interested in re-signing Neymar from Paris Saint-Germain and are still desperately trying to put a deal together for Matthijs De Ligt from Ajax. In order to do so and meet FFP they are open to offers for the likes of Umtiti, Cillessen, Coutinho and of course Gomes and Malcom. I'd bet confidently that the deal for André is complete, but there will be a sticking point on Malcom as Barcelona try to recoup as much money as possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn balor 2,051 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Would much rather Neres but I think Malcolm is the bet at half the price or a loan with a deal in place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
c1982 2,622 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 markjazzbassist, MikeO, Aidan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
c1982 2,622 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 markjazzbassist, MikeO and Matt 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Btay 2,047 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Finally! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duncanmckenzieismagic 5,269 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 CONFIRMED - Andre Gomes joins Everton http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-confirm-andre-gomes-signing-16486015#ICID=ios_EchoNewsApp_AppShare_Click_Other Matt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romey 1878 13,668 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Now it’s all official let’s get on to adding to the squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markjazzbassist 3,187 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 ALRIGHT!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeO 13,018 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Brilliant reveal! Well done the media team as well as the club! StevO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tonsta 68 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 This is our best signing for some time, lets add and build on it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn balor 2,051 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Fucking get in. I’m in line for the next hug André Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn balor 2,051 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 £22 million? Jesus thats a steal markjazzbassist, Aidan and Zoo 2.0 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn balor 2,051 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Zouma next c1982 and Btay 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Palfy 3,444 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Great news they must have come back off their holidays and things😜 €25m and a five year deal reported by one football if true that’s a bargain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duncanmckenzieismagic 5,269 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwlad all over 585 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 "I'm back" Absolutely made up he's ours. Will be a legend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duncanmckenzieismagic 5,269 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Palfy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Palfy 3,444 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 A people person for the people’s club, besides being a top class player he’s a top bloke gonna be a great fit for us. Wiggytop 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aidan 2,228 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Wooo! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wiggytop 645 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 So happy to finally see this concluded, 22m and five year contract, brilliant! Looking forward to see what else Marcel and Marco have lined up 👍💙 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,300 Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 Zouma and Neres would suit me fine.😀 Gwlad all over, StevO and Btay 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duncanmckenzieismagic 5,269 Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 Hidden reasons behind Gomes move & why stats can't measure his value http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/andre-gomes-everton-barcelona-transfer-16491821#ICID=ios_EchoNewsApp_AppShare_Click_Other Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,300 Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 I've just read an article where Fred cost Man Utd £52m !! And Wan Bassaka is about to cost them another £50m, this puts in perspective the great work Brands has done to bring in Gomes and Digne at their prices.😀 markjazzbassist and nutmegwolf203 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Finn balor 2,051 Posted June 27, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Targeting clubs like Barca and other big clubs is obviously the way to go. They stockpile players and when they want their next superstar they have to unload fringe players to balance their books. If we do our homework we seem to have we can exploit that and get some other gems in. StevO, Btay, nutmegwolf203 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markjazzbassist 3,187 Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Finn balor said: Targeting clubs like Barca and other big clubs is obviously the way to go. They stockpile players and when they want their next superstar they have to unload fringe players to balance their books. If we do our homework we seem to have we can exploit that and get some other gems in. yeah i always thought Brands was building the connections so he could move there after Everton being cynical myself. Your explanation makes more sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aidan 2,228 Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: yeah i always thought Brands was building the connections so he could move there after Everton being cynical myself. Your explanation makes more sense. Doesnt seem like the kind of bloke to think like that. It was a struggle to get him to Everton, wasnt it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevO 5,809 Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 I’m sure Brands is very ambitious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markjazzbassist 3,187 Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 56 minutes ago, Aidan said: Doesnt seem like the kind of bloke to think like that. It was a struggle to get him to Everton, wasnt it? honestly i think it can serve 2 purposes. we are getting fantastic players at cut rate deals, no doubt on that. but also the part i said, he is forging strong relationships, they see how shrewd he is, they see how he negotiates and holds his ground (Mina), if and it's a BIG if, he does turn around Everton we are in CL every year and win a trophy and he's got us blooding youngsters and cheap foreign imports and selling for millions on the dollar, then yes if i was Barca i would want him there. they love the dutch and a person showing that skill set which they already have a great relationship would be a no brainer. 13 minutes ago, StevO said: I’m sure Brands is very ambitious. exactly, most dutch aspire to His Holiness Cruyff and Barca. i would suspect he is no different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn balor 2,051 Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just watched the hug a thon André did again and filled up again. If I haven’t watched it do so. The man has got the world sussed out but so humble and kind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barryj 1,184 Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 7 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: yeah i always thought Brands was building the connections so he could move there after Everton being cynical myself. Your explanation makes more sense. I understand players wanting to go to the best teams in the world like Barca and Real Madrid etc. However for Brands (or similar) taking a job there means you can really only tread water or go down as they’re already at the top of the tree and pretty much any player you want you can get. If we are paying similar wages then being at a club that you can mould and build a legacy must surely be better job satisfaction. Matt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
London Blue 2,246 Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48872570 Good article, don't think there was ever any chance of him not coming to us. barryj 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavisJD 92 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Gomes Tekkers. Enjoy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 8,123 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 https://www.evertonfc.com/news/1307226/silva-hopeful-on-gomes-injury Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romey 1878 13,668 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Matt said: https://www.evertonfc.com/news/1307226/silva-hopeful-on-gomes-injury I'm hopeful too because we lost all control with his departure. We need him fit for Watford with Schneiderlin definitely out (at least it's only for one game), so that someone senior is playing next to Gbamin. I will shit myself if we have to pair Davies and Gbamin for that game. Bailey 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pete0 2,042 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 I'd be more comfortable with Davies than Gomes next to Gbamin. He's more vocal to help him through the game. That said I'd rather all three start and Sigurdssen get dropped. barryj 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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