Hafnia Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, Shukes said: I did the same a few weeks ago and got slaughtered for it. Biggest argument people offered was... why am I singling him out when we are winning. I let Carlo do the talking for me, by dropping him. Feels people are more into proving people wrong, than their own arguments right sometimes. Edit: I wrote that after your first paragraph. Then I read the rest of your post haha. Blame Palfy, it feels good. I blame him for mistakes at work... everything i can think of 😉 Totally agreed.... The populism on this site can be so cringy "Oooh look xyz has had a go let's join in...." "Urgh it's Palf, haf, peteo ... Let's disagree" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Totally agreed.... The populism on this site can be so cringy "Oooh look xyz has had a go let's join in...." "Urgh it's Palf, haf, peteo ... Let's disagree" Mate I relish the challenge 👊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 56 minutes ago, Shukes said: I did the same a few weeks ago and got slaughtered for it. Biggest argument people offered was... why am I singling him out when we are winning. I let Carlo do the talking for me, by dropping him. Feels people are more into proving people wrong, than their own arguments right sometimes. Edit: I wrote that after your first paragraph. Then I read the rest of your post haha. Blame Palfy, it feels good. I blame him for mistakes at work... everything i can think of 😉 I’d probably accept responsibility. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 Gomes's performances had deteriorated last season, even before his injury if honest, and the injury just made it worst, and this has been very disappointing - He came here after his loan spell with us having real high hopes - He set the bar quite high for himself with his performances, so it makes it so much more frustrating that instead of kicking on to consistent star midfielder he seems to have just progressively fallen away from his earlier form, with this seasons performances being no better than his form at the end of last season - even with the improved players around him and the confidence he should have been feeding off as the team does well. I called him out as one of the main culprits for us really having that lazy, lethargic and toothless midfield last season, looking for him to be one of the players changed out from the team. I so much wanted to see the player we first saw at the club return, its just not happening. Like others have said, he has been quite fortunate that others haven't stepped up to put his starting berth under more pressure. Gomes has never chipped in with goals (even when he actually played well for us), so he is not the type of player that even when playing poorly, you think there might be one moment of genius in there than could result in a goal from nothing - That is one advantage Gyfi does very much have over Gomes. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 The most frustraiting thing about him for me, besides his stray short passes to nobody, is how easy he is to get dribbled. Barley sticks out a leg, he's so easily done. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bailey Posted November 27, 2020 Report Share Posted November 27, 2020 It doesn't surprise me. It took Coleman a long time to find his form again after coming back from his injury and he isnt and never will be the player he was either. Same for McCarthy. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted December 22, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 https://www.evertonfc.com/news/1949513/watch-gomes-surprises-award-winning-young-fundraiser-isaac Palfy, pete0, Matt and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post London Blue Posted December 22, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 Things like that make me so proud to be an Evertonian. EITC and players like Gomes who embrace it are amazing 👏 pete0, Romey 1878, markjazzbassist and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad all over Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 Thanks Isaac, makes my support of the initiatives of our amazing club seem so small. Andre, what a guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Showed glimpses of the quality we seen early on his loan spell and sporadically since. Quality not in question .... The 6 inches between the ears is where the secret is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shukes Posted January 1 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 1 Last two games he has started to show his class again. Looked on a completely different level tonight. Playing himself into the team yet? I would like to think so. Wiggytop, Matt, StevO and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 11 minutes ago, Shukes said: Last two games he has started to show his class again. Looked on a completely different level tonight. Playing himself into the team yet? I would like to think so. Think Gylfi played himself out of it to be honest. pete0 and Wiggytop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 Played well again. I'll give credit as much as I give criticism. Seems to be planting his feet a bit more and leveraging his strength which is way above the average for a footballer - he's a good 6ft and a decent build, no way should he have been playing like he has. Hopefully we see more of this Andre as the best Andre is an extremely good footballer. Matt and MC11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 3 hours ago, Hafnia said: Played well again. I'll give credit as much as I give criticism. Seems to be planting his feet a bit more and leveraging his strength which is way above the average for a footballer - he's a good 6ft and a decent build, no way should he have been playing like he has. Hopefully we see more of this Andre as the best Andre is an extremely good footballer. He's like a futsal player hey, strong with good feet. Fingers crossed this is beginning of some consistent performances because we need a bit of creativity Hafnia and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 I think by bringing Gomes back slowly, Carlo has gradually increased both his strength and confidence. I am looking for him to start the next league game and start to impose himself on games, and be the Gomes we all know and love. His drive, energy, and positivity, coupled with his obvious skill is something we need. StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 9 hours ago, London Blue said: I think by bringing Gomes back slowly, Carlo has gradually increased both his strength and confidence. I am looking for him to start the next league game and start to impose himself on games, and be the Gomes we all know and love. His drive, energy, and positivity, coupled with his obvious skill is something we need. Blue, this is not injury related. I wish it was but it's not. Gomes struggles with confidence and consistency. There has been no pattern to his good performances Vs poor. I'd go as far as saying he's played better when returning from injury/not playing Vs when he's had a run in the side. People have been desperate to justify why he is as poor as he is when he is off the boil because there is clearly a very talented player there. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 12 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Blue, this is not injury related. I wish it was but it's not. Gomes struggles with confidence and consistency. There has been no pattern to his good performances Vs poor. I'd go as far as saying he's played better when returning from injury/not playing Vs when he's had a run in the side. People have been desperate to justify why he is as poor as he is when he is off the boil because there is clearly a very talented player there. You can't say categorically that it isn't. I get that he had issues before the injury but it is also very fair to say lots of players struggle when they come back from long term / significant injuries like his. You only need to look at Coleman and McCarthy. Coleman was amazing on his first game back but then he stunk out the gaff for 6+ months after that before finding his form. McCarthy couldn't even get in the squad when he came back. Like you I am not fully convinced he is suddenly going to come back a better player by being eased back in a little more but he looked a lot weaker post injury and it might be that he will improve more as the season goes on. It is possible and time will tell, but on balance I am more in your camp than others. London Blue, markjazzbassist, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: Blue, this is not injury related. I wish it was but it's not. Gomes struggles with confidence and consistency. There has been no pattern to his good performances Vs poor. I'd go as far as saying he's played better when returning from injury/not playing Vs when he's had a run in the side. People have been desperate to justify why he is as poor as he is when he is off the boil because there is clearly a very talented player there. Carlo said it was in a press conference a while back I think. I don't doubt there are confidence issues as well, but I think being fully fit is a massive part of it. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 On 04/11/2020 at 20:37, Hafnia said: Blame Palfy, it feels good. I blame him for mistakes at work... everything i can think of 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Watched the goal again, what a sublime cross, just perfect and the swerve on it man oh man. Keep it up andre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 4 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: Watched the goal again, what a sublime cross, just perfect and the swerve on it man oh man. Keep it up andre And on his "weaker" foot as well. He couldn't have hit it better. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 I reckon he’s been watching James, and seeing how to deliver incisive balls, Siggy take note! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Played well last few games, Carlo needs to keep on him. There is no excuse for a player of his size and talent to be as anonymous as he has been It's all in between the ears with him. Outside of James, he's up there with Digne and Bernard as the best technical player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 I'm never that impressed by Gomes, and there are many little reasons for this. Take this one example (I've started the video at the appropriate point). Look at Gomes as he anticipates the corner, and then see what happens as the corner is taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 That video has disappeared Steve. Can you tell us what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Yeah, video unavailable is the message I get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Maybe the video just isn't trying hard enough, you know anticipating wanting to be played then not following through. Slacker!! MikeO, Matt and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted February 3 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 3 I was so happy watching him play tonight. I don't believe for a single second that his poor performances have been anything to do with a lack of effort or work ethic, or not caring, or any of that absolute bollocks. Tonight he was quality. That ball to put Digne in for our first goal was sublime and there aren't many other players in our team that could have done it. But even without that it was a quality performance from him - he anticipated so many dangerous situations and positioned himself perfectly to intercept the ball. I want this Andre Gomes more please. Matt, Wiggytop, MC11 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 31 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I was so happy watching him play tonight. I don't believe for a single second that his poor performances have been anything to do with a lack of effort or work ethic, or not caring, or any of that absolute bollocks. Tonight he was quality. That ball to put Digne in for our first goal was sublime and there aren't many other players in our team that could have done it. But even without that it was a quality performance from him - he anticipated so many dangerous situations and positioned himself perfectly to intercept the ball. I want this Andre Gomes more please. We all want it more. It was great to see. He’s been visibly frustrated with his own performances, I just really hope he kicks on because we need some more quality to go with fight! Romey 1878 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 He’s moved up a gear. Looking quality at the moment MikeO and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Feel the man love towards Gomes flow!! And rightly so!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Palfy Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 That’s how I saw it voted Gomes as my motm, it feels great to be on the same wavelength as Carlo it’s like the justification that I was right😂 London Blue, Shukes and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 9 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: I was so happy watching him play tonight. I don't believe for a single second that his poor performances have been anything to do with a lack of effort or work ethic, or not caring, or any of that absolute bollocks. Tonight he was quality. That ball to put Digne in for our first goal was sublime and there aren't many other players in our team that could have done it. But even without that it was a quality performance from him - he anticipated so many dangerous situations and positioned himself perfectly to intercept the ball. I want this Andre Gomes more please. It's in his head, always has been. Similar to Barkley, you know in the first 5 minutes how he's going to play. Was quality last night. He has proven it's nothing to do with injury, just need to get him like this for every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 His best game for as far as I can remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Bailey said: His best game for as far as I can remember. Probably his best game since the Pickford derby at Analfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Btay Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 13 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Controlled the midfield Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 On 04/02/2021 at 06:00, Palfy said: That’s how I saw it voted Gomes as my motm, it feels great to be on the same wavelength as Carlo it’s like the justification that I was right😂 I never doubted you Palfy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Such good management from Ancelotti again. Gomez must feel a foot taller after hearing that. Romey 1878 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 11 hours ago, barryj said: I never doubted you Palfy! 😂 cheers mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 Another good performance from him tonight , is it just me or is he starting to look a lot stronger and fitter now ? Starting to look more like the fella we had on loan from Barca MikeO, Matt and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 Just now, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Another good performance from him tonight , is it just me or is he starting to look a lot stronger and fitter now ? Staring to look more like the fella we had on loan from Barca It’s not just you, he seems to finally feel settled again. He’s got just enough responsibility to be motivated without being overwhelmed when he’s got someone else doing the defensive part. He’s a starter in this form with Allan and Doucoure, means Davies, Siggy and eventually Gbamin will have to up their game. so long as he keeps this up of course... London Blue and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 Prone to spells of ridiculously poor performances for a player of his ability. Been more good than bad lately. Great game tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 3 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Prone to spells of ridiculously poor performances for a player of his ability. Been more good than bad lately. Great game tonight To be honest I had pretty much given up on him, much like Davies and Siggy, but Carlo senna to be getting a bit of a tune out of all three Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 A performance tonight to give everyone hope that the Andre Gomes we need is still there. MikeO, StevO and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 10 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: To be honest I had pretty much given up on him, much like Davies and Siggy, but Carlo senna to be getting a bit of a tune out of all three Probably one of Ancellottis biggest positives. He's a better man than me cos I'd have launched a few players after last season. Clearly knows how to get the most from his men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 Gomes playing like that is a definite starter lets hope he can get the consistency needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 This version of Gomes playing alongside Doucoure and Allan would be immense. Need to see it more often from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 He has played really well over the last couple of months. I think physically, mentally and emotionally he is back to where he was before the injury. When he is settled he is such a class player. DavisJD and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 It was a good performance today. One issue I have with Gomes is that he does need to be chipping in with the occasional goal - as a central midfielder (and not a holding/defensive one) 2 or 3 a season in the league wouldn't go a miss. He has 1 goal in 68 league appearances. if he was more of a goal threat from around the edge of the area it would just give that opposition something else to think about when we are on the offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 My only fear is that, haven't we been here before? I feel like I can count one or two other false dawns where we all said "this is the Gomes we need, hopefully this is him back to his best." Really hoping this is for real this time and not another bright period before the inevitable slump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 I'd like to see the one from YouTube. That version of Gomes had drive. Performance wise for us he's been very Schneiderlin, looks a class above when shifting the ball but ultimately just isn't putting in enough. https://youtu.be/SE5-H1F1HkQ DavisJD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 17 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Another good performance from him tonight , is it just me or is he starting to look a lot stronger and fitter now ? Starting to look more like the fella we had on loan from Barca Definitely. I still think he has holes in him as a footballer but there is s lot more aggression and intensity in his play now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted March 21 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 21 It’s almost like he had a career threatening injury and it’s taken him a while to get his fitness and confidence back. StevO, London Blue, markjazzbassist and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 11 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: It’s almost like he had a career threatening injury and it’s taken him a while to get his fitness and confidence back. Was he injured, I just thought he was pensive, rusty, tentative and slow. I guess that explains it. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Btay Posted July 22 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 22 Probably best for both parties. Gbamin fitness will play a big part in if it’s a good thing to move Gomes on. The money from him and Bernard would surely cover Dumfries and then hopefully we have enough room with FFP to get a Leon Bailey type in. StevO, Romey 1878, London Blue and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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