Ellis Simms

[Formby]

10 minutes ago, SpartyBlue said:

Well there are a lot of players promising enough to get a look. Many more get that look and don’t last long then establish themselves in the league 

Indeed! But my comment was aimed at your line in bold for a reason - if you read it carefully, you will see. 

[SpartyBlue]

36 minutes ago, Formby said:

There's still a lot of rubbish that gets through. 

Ah

[Gwlad all over]

I feel sorry for those kids that invest their youth and effort with a top club only to find their dreams dashed and  that they are not going to attain the standard required. On the other hand it does give them the chance as professionals in the lower leagues.

[StevO]

8 hours ago, Fosse Captain said:

I’m not convinced the Broadheads, Simms and Dobbins are ever going to be good enough. Successive managers have sacked them off on loan.

At the age they are now, you’d think they’d be getting ‘impact’ minutes in the first team if they had something about them. 
 

I’ve been banging this drum on here for approaching 20 years; most don’t make it.
 

Are these players international level at their age groups? England won the under 20s World Cup with Kenny, Dowel, Lookman and DCL all starting the final, as well as Tom Davies being rested from the squad after a busy season in the premier league. Even a group of lads who did that at the respective age group couldn’t all break into the Everton team and hold a regular position. 
 

If a youngster makes it and keeps their place fantastic, but it more than likely won’t happen. Anthony Gordon has just got there, so chances are it’ll be a long time before the next one. 
I know I’m a miserable bastard with this stuff, but it just doesn’t happen often enough.

[StevO]

27 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said:

I feel sorry for those kids that invest their youth and effort with a top club only to find their dreams dashed and  that they are not going to attain the standard required. On the other hand it does give them the chance as professionals in the lower leagues.

It’s cut throat, but it’s the kind of thing clubs now tell players. They know as they are getting older (13-14) they need to have an eye on the world away from football, or at least from being a player, or look at lower leagues. Families need to be honest with them too. Of course they will need encouragement from the clubs and families to push them to hopefully make the most of the opportunities they have, like many of them at Everton got the chance to go to the states with the first team to show what they can do and see the levels required up close, and hopefully some will make it. For the ones that don’t, clubs will try to get them into lower league where possible. 

[Shukes]

My lads just got into the advanced training development at Shrewsbury, and I’m having to explain to him that he needs to make sure he keeps his grades up as it’s still a one in a million chance of making it. 
He is nine years old and is determined he is going to be a professional, and it worry’s me sick that he might have his heart broken. I stress so much more than he does over it.

[London Blue]

1 hour ago, Shukes said:

My lads just got into the advanced training development at Shrewsbury, and I’m having to explain to him that he needs to make sure he keeps his grades up as it’s still a one in a million chance of making it. 
He is nine years old and is determined he is going to be a professional, and it worry’s me sick that he might have his heart broken. I stress so much more than he does over it.

Congrats to your boy, I hope he makes it, but your right, he needs to have a good education regardless as it gives him choice about his future. 

[Shukes]

2 minutes ago, London Blue said:

Congrats to your boy, I hope he makes it, but your right, he needs to have a good education regardless as it gives him choice about his future. 

Thanks mate. I do my best to keep him grounded and make sure his grades stay where they are. 
He is a much smarter lad at 9 than I was at 12, and by far a better footballer haha.

[London Blue]

11 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Thanks mate. I do my best to keep him grounded and make sure his grades stay where they are. 
He is a much smarter lad at 9 than I was at 12, and by far a better footballer haha.

My boy is 4 and he's already telling me when I am wrong 

Tell your son that when people run out of good choices they start to make bad ones, a good education whether academic or vocational gives you more good choices to make throughout life.

[Gwlad all over]

3 hours ago, Shukes said:

My lads just got into the advanced training development at Shrewsbury, and I’m having to explain to him that he needs to make sure he keeps his grades up as it’s still a one in a million chance of making it. 
He is nine years old and is determined he is going to be a professional, and it worry’s me sick that he might have his heart broken. I stress so much more than he does over it.

All you can do is give him support and advice and hopefully he will be a success. My grandson, 6 years old, is doing really well for his age in Tae Kwondo, loves it but his parents are trying to keep him grounded.

[London Blue]

2 hours ago, Gwlad all over said:

All you can do is give him support and advice and hopefully he will be a success. My grandson, 6 years old, is doing really well for his age in Tae Kwondo, loves it but his parents are trying to keep him grounded.

No flying kicks then 

[Palfy]

14 hours ago, Shukes said:

Thanks mate. I do my best to keep him grounded and make sure his grades stay where they are. 
He is a much smarter lad at 9 than I was at 12, and by far a better footballer haha.

I think you mistakenly put the 1 in front of the 2

[Palfy]

16 hours ago, Shukes said:

My lads just got into the advanced training development at Shrewsbury, and I’m having to explain to him that he needs to make sure he keeps his grades up as it’s still a one in a million chance of making it. 
He is nine years old and is determined he is going to be a professional, and it worry’s me sick that he might have his heart broken. I stress so much more than he does over it.

When I was involved with Swindon the club took it upon it’s self keep tabs on the progress of the kids education, they instilled that education and football were equally as important, the kids soon learnt they couldn’t have what they loved without giving the same effort to their education. A program that probably helped hundreds achieve a good career outside of football. 

[StevO]

3 hours ago, Palfy said:

When I was involved with Swindon the club took it upon it’s self keep tabs on the progress of the kids education, they instilled that education and football were equally as important, the kids soon learnt they couldn’t have what they loved without giving the same effort to their education. A program that probably helped hundreds achieve a good career outside of football. 

This is still in place now. The only downside is the good players get a bit of a free ride. My mate worked (until last month) at a school with a few players from Wigan and City. He was a the contact at the school for the clubs, he would feed back when grades had dropped, the kids still get picked for the next game. 
Obviously can’t paint every club with that brush, but it wouldn’t surprise me. 

[Palfy]

28 minutes ago, StevO said:

This is still in place now. The only downside is the good players get a bit of a free ride. My mate worked (until last month) at a school with a few players from Wigan and City. He was a the contact at the school for the clubs, he would feed back when grades had dropped, the kids still get picked for the next game. 
Obviously can’t paint every club with that brush, but it wouldn’t surprise me. 

I get that Steve but better some programs in place than none even as you said they will be open to abuse in some cases. As for Shukes he understands the pitfalls and will be progressing his boys football by encouraging his education as being just as important. As we get older we get wiser and realise life’s better when you have options and opportunities, and a good education helps open many doors. 

[StevO]

7 hours ago, Palfy said:

I get that Steve but better some programs in place than none even as you said they will be open to abuse in some cases. As for Shukes he understands the pitfalls and will be progressing his boys football by encouraging his education as being just as important. As we get older we get wiser and realise life’s better when you have options and opportunities, and a good education helps open many doors. 

Completely agree. Probably the family would be needing to push education more than the clubs, from a reality check point of view. 

[msloan78]

Scored 4 minutes into his debut for Sunderland!

[Shukes]

Anyone see it? Not a bad start to his first start.

[msloan78]

Simms goal.

https://streamable.com/k14zct

Sunderland fans seem very happy.

 

 

 

 

 

[Goodison Glory]

Talking to some Sunderland mates and they are delighted. Saying his work rate is better than the rest of the team

[msloan78]

Scored again...

https://twitter.com/richard1801/status/1555935433191743488?t=9GHsjv5qPKjXi57vYdEiyg&s=19

Video in the link

[Cornish Steve]

5 minutes ago, msloan78 said:

Scored again...

https://twitter.com/richard1801/status/1555935433191743488?t=9GHsjv5qPKjXi57vYdEiyg&s=19

Video in the link

Crappy goalkeeping, though.

[Bailey]

9 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

Crappy goalkeeping, though.

Defending leaves a lot to be desired too! He still has to put them away though and good on the lad for doing it!

[Shukes]

2 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

Crappy goalkeeping, though.

For both. But he still got his shot away for both. Second he was also calm enough to step inside the player.

[Palfy]

On 09/05/2022 at 15:11, Palfy said:

Could  he be the natural finisher we’ve missed this season, when he pulls the the trigger it hits the target with accuracy and power. Frank loves nothing better than working with and improving youngsters who have shown that they possess the natural ability, I really hope he gets some decent opportunities next season. 

 

On 19/06/2022 at 19:32, Palfy said:

I would give him his opportunity as back up to DCL instead of Rondon or buying another bench striker that we don’t have the funds for any way, he’s had some decent loans already and scored where ever he’s been, maybe not prolifically but still gave a good return. Most importantly he is natural finisher and has scored some cracking goals that’s the hardest thing to try and teach how to finish, he may lack some positional sense but with some good coaching and being In and around the first team it can only benefit him. 

 

On 29/07/2022 at 13:36, Palfy said:

Who knows, I really thought he would get a chance as back up to DCL this season, he went with the team to the state’s, yet hasn't had a minute in any of the friendlies and is now off on loan. 

I really think Lampard has fucked up allowing this Lad to go out on another season long loan, he was a ready made back up for DCL he’s proved himself where ever he’s gone and his first game in the championship he proves himself again. 
You sell your best player who can get you goals and don’t replace him, your main striker is turning into a sick note and your back ups are Rondon and Dele 2 of the poorest players in the squad, then you send Simms out on loan. I know we all like Frank but in any judgment that is a poor piece of management right there, and don’t know what signals that is sending out to Simms when he knows he’s good enough to have made a difference yesterday, the lad must be thinking fuck you Lampard my future obviously doesn’t lie with you, I know I would be. 
Any how good luck to the lad hope he gets 20 goals this season and contract from Sunderland. 

[Hafnia]

10 minutes ago, Palfy said:

 

 

I really think Lampard has fucked up allowing this Lad to go out on another season long loan, he was a ready made back up for DCL he’s proved himself where ever he’s gone and his first game in the championship he proves himself again. 
You sell your best player who can get you goals and don’t replace him, your main striker is turning into a sick note and your back ups are Rondon and Dele 2 of the poorest players in the squad, then you send Simms out on loan. I know we all like Frank but in any judgment that is a poor piece of management right there, and don’t know what signals that is sending out to Simms when he knows he’s good enough to have made a difference yesterday, the lad must be thinking fuck you Lampard my future obviously doesn’t lie with you, I know I would be. 
Any how good luck to the lad hope he gets 20 goals this season and contract from Sunderland. 

Tbf they have coaches his back room staff who look at players.  Simms clearly isn’t ready for premier league or he would take a chance on him.   Massive difference between the levels.

I would have liked to have seen him but we need to trust the staff. 

[Palfy]

37 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Tbf they have coaches his back room staff who look at players.  Simms clearly isn’t ready for premier league or he would take a chance on him.   Massive difference between the levels.

I would have liked to have seen him but we need to trust the staff. 

Okay then I trust the staff who was the better option than him yesterday, it wasn’t Gordon he was terrible as the 9 it wasn’t Dele, you need 3 strikers in a team, we’ve got 2 in DCL and Rondon, Simms should have been kept as the 3rd  or 2nd in front of Rondon, he’s proved again he’s good enough, l won’t get into a massive debate with this because nothing anyone can say will change my view that it’s a unmitigated fuck up letting him go, I’m just pleased for him that where ever he goes he proves he’s got what it takes, just a shame Frank can’t see it. 

[Hafnia]

14 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Okay then I trust the staff who was the better option than him yesterday, it wasn’t Gordon he was terrible as the 9 it wasn’t Dele, you need 3 strikers in a team, we’ve got 2 in DCL and Rondon, Simms should have been kept as the 3rd  or 2nd in front of Rondon, he’s proved again he’s good enough, l won’t get into a massive debate with this because nothing anyone can say will change my view that it’s a unmitigated fuck up letting him go, I’m just pleased for him that where ever he goes he proves he’s got what it takes, just a shame Frank can’t see it. 

But that’s the point.  Lampard gives young players a chance, he always has. If they are good enough they will get time.  He would have been up against two centre half greets yesterday. 
 

simms from my understanding is very very raw. Big, strong, pacey but movement and control way off.   He will be assessed in training matches and it’s clear he’s not ready. It won’t just be lampards take, but Clements, joes, Cole’s etc. 

yes we need strikers, but over promoting someone who isn’t ready isn’t gonna work. 

 

[Shukes]

It’s great he is scoring over there, but let’s be honest here…. Those goals are not scored in the premier league. It was more down to atrocious goalkeeping that’s finishing. 
 

I hope he does progress I really do. But there’s a long way to go.

[Palfy]

12 minutes ago, Shukes said:

It’s great he is scoring over there, but let’s be honest here…. Those goals are not scored in the premier league. It was more down to atrocious goalkeeping that’s finishing. 
 

I hope he does progress I really do. But there’s a long way to go.

So you would say he still isn’t good enough to be the number 3 or he’s still not good enough to challenge Rondon, Jesus open your eyes scoring goals isn’t down to the standard of the keepers, it’s about getting in the right areas and hitting the target and he’s a natural at doing that, and why he scores where ever he goes, and let’s be very honest the championship isn’t a mugs league for strikers I think Mitrovic proved that against the shite yesterday. Now fuck off and enjoy your trip looking at windmills

[Hafnia]

1 minute ago, Palfy said:

So you would say he still isn’t good enough to be the number 3 or he’s still not good enough to challenge Rondon, Jesus open your eyes scoring goals isn’t down to the standard of the keepers, it’s about getting in the right areas and hitting the target and he’s a natural at doing that, and why he scores where ever he goes, and let’s be very honest the championship isn’t a mugs league for strikers I think Mitrovic proved that against the shite yesterday. Now fuck off and enjoy your trip looking at windmills

Tbf you make a good point, mitrovic scored 43 goals in 44 games. He would do well to get 15 in the prem, that’s the difference in levels. 

[Wiggytop]

2 hours ago, Hafnia said:

Tbf you make a good point, mitrovic scored 43 goals in 44 games. He would do well to get 15 in the prem, that’s the difference in levels. 

13 to go then until May

[Hafnia]

12 minutes ago, Wiggytop said:

13 to go then until May

Yep, but the point still remains - a prem level striker can get 43 goals in the championship.  World class strikers playing for the likes of Man City do well to get 30 in the prem. 

look at the likes of David nugent, billy sharp, absolutely smashed it in that league.  I’m not discounting it, but take yesterday… a 37 year old centre half was able to nullify young fast skilful lads by intelligent positioning.   The premier league is a whole different level. If you manage to get in a position to score you have world class keepers to beat. 
 

I’ve had my eye on him and would love to see him play, looks an exciting player but got to be realistic. 

[StevO]

6 hours ago, Palfy said:

 

 

I really think Lampard has fucked up allowing this Lad to go out on another season long loan, he was a ready made back up for DCL he’s proved himself where ever he’s gone and his first game in the championship he proves himself again. 
You sell your best player who can get you goals and don’t replace him, your main striker is turning into a sick note and your back ups are Rondon and Dele 2 of the poorest players in the squad, then you send Simms out on loan. I know we all like Frank but in any judgment that is a poor piece of management right there, and don’t know what signals that is sending out to Simms when he knows he’s good enough to have made a difference yesterday, the lad must be thinking fuck you Lampard my future obviously doesn’t lie with you, I know I would be. 
Any how good luck to the lad hope he gets 20 goals this season and contract from Sunderland. 

I also hope he gets 20 goals for Sunderland, but only because that benefits us. 
Playing against Bristol City and playing against Koulibaly and Thiago Silva is a very different kettle of fish. 

[StevO]

1 hour ago, Hafnia said:

Yep, but the point still remains - a prem level striker can get 43 goals in the championship.  World class strikers playing for the likes of Man City do well to get 30 in the prem. 

look at the likes of David nugent, billy sharp, absolutely smashed it in that league.  I’m not discounting it, but take yesterday… a 37 year old centre half was able to nullify young fast skilful lads by intelligent positioning.   The premier league is a whole different level. If you manage to get in a position to score you have world class keepers to beat. 
 

I’ve had my eye on him and would love to see him play, looks an exciting player but got to be realistic. 

Exactly this. Players like Thiago are a mile ahead in terms of reading the game, and most teams have players who can do that. 
 

I really hope Simms smashes it and comes back ready for the first team. 
I see it as every loan he’s had has been a step up from the last, and each time he’s done it well. If he scores a load of goals this season he’ll get a chance next season. 
 

He won’t develop sitting on our bench like he would playing every week for Sunderland. It’s a brilliant loan move for him. Big club, big crowd, number nine shirt, pressure! If he handles that it will help him in the long term for his career, hopefully with us but if not it’s good for him. 

[Palfy]

1 hour ago, Hafnia said:

Yep, but the point still remains - a prem level striker can get 43 goals in the championship.  World class strikers playing for the likes of Man City do well to get 30 in the prem. 

look at the likes of David nugent, billy sharp, absolutely smashed it in that league.  I’m not discounting it, but take yesterday… a 37 year old centre half was able to nullify young fast skilful lads by intelligent positioning.   The premier league is a whole different level. If you manage to get in a position to score you have world class keepers to beat. 
 

I’ve had my eye on him and would love to see him play, looks an exciting player but got to be realistic. 

Keeping at the club as 2nd or 3rd striker is more than realistic when you look at the alternatives, or was yesterday’s shite show up front more realistic. 

[StevO]

13 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Keeping at the club as 2nd or 3rd striker is more than realistic when you look at the alternatives, or was yesterday’s shite show up front more realistic. 

He won’t get any better sitting on the bench for a year though will he? We know we’ll bring in another striker and then he’ll be fourth choice. That don’t improve him as a player. 

[Palfy]

Just now, StevO said:

He won’t get any better sitting on the bench for a year though will he? We know we’ll bring in another striker and then he’ll be fourth choice. That don’t improve him as a player. 

He would have played from the start yesterday and probably been the difference to take the chances presented to Gordon and Dele, and if he had been here and converted one of those chances he wouldn’t have been sat on the bench for a year, he would have been playing for the next few weeks minimum. 

[Palfy]

2 hours ago, Hafnia said:

Yep, but the point still remains - a prem level striker can get 43 goals in the championship.  World class strikers playing for the likes of Man City do well to get 30 in the prem. 

look at the likes of David nugent, billy sharp, absolutely smashed it in that league.  I’m not discounting it, but take yesterday… a 37 year old centre half was able to nullify young fast skilful lads by intelligent positioning.   The premier league is a whole different level. If you manage to get in a position to score you have world class keepers to beat. 
 

I’ve had my eye on him and would love to see him play, looks an exciting player but got to be realistic. 

Moore managed it on his debut in the PL for Bournemouth, on your assessment of how difficult it is for championship players to score and beat the superior keepers of the PL that shouldn’t have happened, but he did and that’s because if you have the natural ability to get in the right place at the right time and can hit the target you will always have a chance of scoring no matter what the league, also Bournemouth with their championship keeper and defender’s shut the PL strikers of Villa out, you have to give players a proper run of opportunities before for you dismiss their abilities, Frank hasn’t given Simms that yet he’s not ready based on what how he train’s, Lampard will looking at what he did yesterday, and admitting to himself I could have done with him.  

[Zoo 2.0]

41 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Moore managed it on his debut in the PL for Bournemouth, on your assessment of how difficult it is for championship players to score and beat the superior keepers of the PL that shouldn’t have happened, but he did and that’s because if you have the natural ability to get in the right place at the right time and can hit the target you will always have a chance of scoring no matter what the league, also Bournemouth with their championship keeper and defender’s shut the PL strikers of Villa out, you have to give players a proper run of opportunities before for you dismiss their abilities, Frank hasn’t given Simms that yet he’s not ready based on what how he train’s, Lampard will looking at what he did yesterday, and admitting to himself I could have done with him.  

He won't.

[badaids]

Could he have been any worse up front yesterday than what we had?

[Palfy]

15 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

He won't.

He will 

[Zoo 2.0]

12 minutes ago, Palfy said:

He will 

Rather deluded if you think two goals in the Championship somehow means that he should be kept for the Premier League. He clearly isn't ready, and just because he scored against Bristol doesn't mean he'd be able to do it against Thiago Silva.

[StevO]

1 hour ago, Palfy said:

He would have played from the start yesterday and probably been the difference to take the chances presented to Gordon and Dele, and if he had been here and converted one of those chances he wouldn’t have been sat on the bench for a year, he would have been playing for the next few weeks minimum. 

There is a lot of if’s there. I’ll add a few more; if we would have kept him until now he may not have got a loan deal to a good club like Sunderland. If we kept him and then got someone else in who the staff rate higher he may not even have got on our bench. If he played yesterday he may have had a stinker and missed the chances you talked about anyway. 
The professionals at the club are there for a reason, can only trust they’ve made the best decision for the long term benefit of the club and player. Not just for one game because Rondon was banned. 

[Palfy]

50 minutes ago, badaids said:

Could he have been any worse up front yesterday than what we had?

No

[Hafnia]

3 hours ago, Palfy said:

Keeping at the club as 2nd or 3rd striker is more than realistic when you look at the alternatives, or was yesterday’s shite show up front more realistic. 

He’s not gonna develop though mate if he doesn’t get competitive footy, how many players have gone to pot because of stagnation in under 23s and being 3rd choice? The reality is that if he was even remotely close to being good enough he would play. 

id love to see simms and dobbin I really would but the people who put their reputation on the line don’t think he’s ready. Leon Osman is a great example, the loan to derby really set him up for his career with us. 

[Shukes]

8 hours ago, Palfy said:

So you would say he still isn’t good enough to be the number 3 or he’s still not good enough to challenge Rondon, Jesus open your eyes scoring goals isn’t down to the standard of the keepers, it’s about getting in the right areas and hitting the target and he’s a natural at doing that, and why he scores where ever he goes, and let’s be very honest the championship isn’t a mugs league for strikers I think Mitrovic proved that against the shite yesterday. Now fuck off and enjoy your trip looking at windmills

Haha the windmills are pretty cool.

Ive watched him quote a bit that’s all. I really thought he was going to be the real deal, and up till now… I’ve been underwhelmed. He has been scoring goals i grant that.

But City let him go. Everton don’t trust him. There could … possibly… be a reason for that.

But back on point… what should I be trying over here?

[Palfy]

1 minute ago, Hafnia said:

He’s not gonna develop though mate if he doesn’t get competitive footy, how many players have gone to pot because of stagnation in under 23s and being 3rd choice? The reality is that if he was even remotely close to being good enough he would play. 

id love to see simms and dobbin I really would but the people who put their reputation on the line don’t think he’s ready. Leon Osman is a great example, the loan to derby really set him up for his career with us. 

I agree but I believe his loan to Hearts really set him up he scored some cracking goals there, and his first game in the Championship proved he gets goals where ever he goes, I’ve said for months he deserves his chance and for me yesterday was another example that I feel proved it. 

[Hafnia]

To top this off there is a huge risk to young players mentally if they get pushed in against top players and struggle. Self doubt can kick in.  Yeah of course he could have nicked a goal but nah, those two defenders would have had him in their back pocket.  There’s levels, physically I’ve no doubts about him but let’s see how he does at Sunderland, I’m expecting 2 forwards this week. 

[Palfy]

2 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Haha the windmills are pretty cool.

Ive watched him quote a bit that’s all. I really thought he was going to be the real deal, and up till now… I’ve been underwhelmed. He has been scoring goals i grant that.

But City let him go. Everton don’t trust him. There could … possibly… be a reason for that.

But back on point… what should I be trying over here?

What part of Holland are you in and more to the point who are you with before I start giving holiday rep advice. 

[Shukes]

Those goals yesterday…. Pickford just bends down and picks them up. 
 

He has scored some cracking goals though. I remember one for Blackpool in particular that was a fantastic goal.

I just think he needs this loan. He wouldn't have cut it this year for me.

Lets face it… Palfy has his back and that usually spells disaster for players

[Shukes]

1 minute ago, Palfy said:

What part of Holland are you in and more to the point who are you with before I start giving holiday rep advice. 

Haha family mate. Missus and kids.

Were not far from Amsterdam. Eurocamp called Duinrell. Going for Ajax stadium tour Monday. 

[Palfy]

3 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Haha family mate. Missus and kids.

Were not far from Amsterdam. Eurocamp called Duinrell. Going for Ajax stadium tour Monday. 

Nice enjoy mate, the Dutch are are so friendly really chilled out like yourself. As your with the family stick to windmill spotting Dyke jumping and Canal boat trips

[Shukes]

Duke jumping? …. Not sure the kids can join in on that mate haha!

[StevO]

 

4 hours ago, Shukes said:

Those goals yesterday…. Pickford just bends down and picks them up. 
 

He has scored some cracking goals though. I remember one for Blackpool in particular that was a fantastic goal.

I just think he needs this loan. He wouldn't have cut it this year for me.

Lets face it… Palfy has his back and that usually spells disaster for players

The first one, I thought I was watching a slow motion replay at first. When I realised it wasn’t I was very confused about how that goalie has got a professional contract.

[StevO]

4 hours ago, Shukes said:

Haha family mate. Missus and kids.

Were not far from Amsterdam. Eurocamp called Duinrell. Going for Ajax stadium tour Monday. 

I missus went to Duinrell about ten years ago with her sister and her two kids. They had a great time. 

[Btay]

I can see where Palfy is coming from.

Rondon suspended for the first few games - we only have DCL as our striker and he got injured before we even kick a ball. I’m all for Simms getting a loan but we should have kept him here for the first few games as coverage at minimum or we should have signed that third striker and then let him go.

As Haf mentioned he may be a bit raw but I have no doubt if he came on and he would have relished the physicality of it as it’s his game.

I don’t think he’s a viable option for consecutive games starting but 15/20 mins at the end chasing a goal, I’d have no issue seeing him come on.

[Romey 1878]

8 hours ago, Btay said:

I can see where Palfy is coming from.

Rondon suspended for the first few games - we only have DCL as our striker and he got injured before we even kick a ball. I’m all for Simms getting a loan but we should have kept him here for the first few games as coverage at minimum or we should have signed that third striker and then let him go.

As Haf mentioned he may be a bit raw but I have no doubt if he came on and he would have relished the physicality of it as it’s his game.

I don’t think he’s a viable option for consecutive games starting but 15/20 mins at the end chasing a goal, I’d have no issue seeing him come on.

Rondon is back for Villa, so one game.

I'm not even sure he's a good target man any longer going on his past "performances" for us but at least it'll make sense us launching the ball forward. Whereas the amount of times we did it on Saturday made zero sense.

[Palfy]

5 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

Rondon is back for Villa, so one game.

I'm not even sure he's a good target man any longer going on his past "performances" for us but at least it'll make sense us launching the ball forward. Whereas the amount of times we did it on Saturday made zero sense.

But we haven’t even got a back up for Rondon, if he should get a compound injury because he touches the ball more than 3 times we are back to square one, when we sold Richarlison we should not have let Simms go out on loan, not because he should be the number one striker but because it left us with lately an injury prone DCL and a past his sell by date Rondon, if we get another striker in before the close of the window and he hasn’t made an impact then let him go out on loan, but if we can’t get a striker in before the window closes at least we would have had some sort of option, and who knows he may have done for us what he did for Sunderland 1st game of the season. 

[SpartyBlue]

24 minutes ago, Palfy said:

But we haven’t even got a back up for Rondon, if he should get a compound injury because he touches the ball more than 3 times we are back to square one, when we sold Richarlison we should not have let Simms go out on loan, not because he should be the number one striker but because it left us with lately an injury prone DCL and a past his sell by date Rondon, if we get another striker in before the close of the window and he hasn’t made an impact then let him go out on loan, but if we can’t get a striker in before the window closes at least we would have had some sort of option, and who knows he may have done for us what he did for Sunderland 1st game of the season. 

Well we can’t plan for DCL to get hurt before the season when a Rondon is also unavailable. Just a fluke situation. We were always bringing in a striker to be the 2nd or competition to DCL, making Rondon the 3rd choice. Which is plenty for a team that has greater concerns and has to be pragmatic. Just one of those things.