Palfy Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 On 07/08/2019 at 15:11, Matt said: I sent you a PM regarding that Send it to me please Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 What a Baptism of fire for him. Welcome to the toughest league in the world Gbamin it can only get better from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Some hospital passes, but also some fancy flicks and nice link up play. Also doesn't realise he will have also zero time on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Nine out of ten times he would have gotten a freekick for all of those challenges where he lost the ball. Benteke clearly pushed him from behind. Think that might have rattled him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Thrown into a new league, physically the toughest and fastest in the world, unexpectedly due to Gomes' injury, having had almost no time to adapt to his own teammates, let alone the pace and style of the Premier League. He ended the game having helped us to not concede, which I think is his primary role in the team. He can be proud, he had a very unexpected debut (I'd be surprised if Marco was thinking of bringing him on at all today) and he wasn't on a losing side. Hopefully this'll be character-building. Matt, Bailey and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 I think it was unfortunate for him to be called today. Being forward, you can't do much wrong, but he's a defensive midfielder! That's a lot of pressure for a newcomer, who hasn't got the chance to know the league and his teammates. Matt and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Got his pocket pinched a few times and missed a few passes. Good wake up to the speed of the league and if he’s going to learn it - this was the game. I don’t think we are going to see the best of him for another few months to be honest. Defensively he was strong - I think he muscled benteke off the ball, easily, by the touchline and looked to hold a good position when it looked like crosses coming in. Some of his passing was crisp. Patience is needed here. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 13 hours ago, Palfy said: Send it to me please Matt Which? Sharing links? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 11 hours ago, Btay said: Patience is needed here. Amen! Young man, new league, new culture, new teammates, hardly had a preseason after ACON, not 100% fit (which he said so himself)... I’m sure the plan would have been to start playing him around September time - much like Digne last season but we don’t have that luxury now with injuries and suspensions so we’ll need to be supportive and patient. Matt and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 I don't want anyone to think I was having a go with my post. It was just an observation and I certainly wasn't making a final judgement on him, quite the opposite really. StevO and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 It reminded my 5 a side game last week. Agreed to help out for a mate who didn't have enough players but they are in the top division whereas I earn my coin in the lowest league. Ball rolled back to me from kick off (weakly might I add) and there was already someone in my face, tackled me before I could clear it and slotted it home to be 1 up in less than 10 seconds. It wasn't quite as bad for the rest of the game but when you are used to a bit of time on the ball, its a massive shock when someone is in your face or breathing down your neck anytime it comes near you. Frustratingly just as I was getting used to the pace the game it finished and that frustration is how I imagine Gbamin felt yesterday and probably until the next training session. Sometimes it is better to be thrown in at the deep end though and I am sure he will learn a lot and learn quickly. Matt, London Blue, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, Bailey said: It reminded my 5 a side game last week. Agreed to help out for a mate who didn't have enough players but they are in the top division whereas I earn my coin in the lowest league. Ball rolled back to me from kick off (weakly might I add) and there was already someone in my face, tackled me before I could clear it and slotted it home to be 1 up in less than 10 seconds. It wasn't quite as bad for the rest of the game but when you are used to a bit of time on the ball, its a massive shock when someone is in your face or breathing down your neck anytime it comes near you. Frustratingly just as I was getting used to the pace the game it finished and that frustration is how I imagine Gbamin felt yesterday and probably until the next training session. Sometimes it is better to be thrown in at the deep end though and I am sure he will learn a lot and learn quickly. This. He did grow as the game went on and I fully expect him to stay on that upward curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Bailey said: It reminded my 5 a side game last week. Agreed to help out for a mate who didn't have enough players but they are in the top division whereas I earn my coin in the lowest league. Ball rolled back to me from kick off (weakly might I add) and there was already someone in my face, tackled me before I could clear it and slotted it home to be 1 up in less than 10 seconds. It wasn't quite as bad for the rest of the game but when you are used to a bit of time on the ball, its a massive shock when someone is in your face or breathing down your neck anytime it comes near you. Frustratingly just as I was getting used to the pace the game it finished and that frustration is how I imagine Gbamin felt yesterday and probably until the next training session. Sometimes it is better to be thrown in at the deep end though and I am sure he will learn a lot and learn quickly. This. It also happened to Jack Grielish yesterday, but it cost his team a goal. He was the best player in the championship last season, day one back in the premier league and he’s caught out by the pace and time of the PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, StevO said: This. It also happened to Jack Grielish yesterday, but it cost his team a goal. He was the best player in the championship last season, day one back in the premier league and he’s caught out by the pace and time of the PL. I was having that same discussion with a villa supporter yesterday. They were naive and learnt the hard way. Grielish though got caught in similar fashion a few mins before he played a major part in Spurs second. I’m sure he’ll learn as will Gbamin I just hope it doesn’t cost us too many points in the mean time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, barryj said: I was having that same discussion with a villa supporter yesterday. They were naive and learnt the hard way. Grielish though got caught in similar fashion a few mins before he played a major part in Spurs second. I’m sure he’ll learn as will Gbamin I just hope it doesn’t cost us too many points in the mean time. I’m sure Grealish will learn, I think he’ll grow into a very good player. Hopefully Gbamin will grow into one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Thought villa looked good yesterday. I like grealish. He’s going to be a very good player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Hes 23. First game in a new league not long after he arrived. Not even slightly worried nutmegwolf203, Btay, London Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneyneil Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 I think he'll be fine. He looks like he has some good attributes and continued to look for the right pass. He's strong physically and just needs a bit of time to adapt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/jean-philippe-gbamin-everton-news-16755340 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 I think it’s telling that in his first full game at Goodison nobody has commented about him. For a defensive mid that’s what you want. Couple of loose moments maybe but I thought he did his job well. Even when he doesn’t get to a ball first he’s excellent at knocking an opponent off stride and disrupting things. I’m encouraged. StevO, markjazzbassist and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, SpartyBlue said: I think it’s telling that in his first full game at Goodison nobody has commented about him. For a defensive mid that’s what you want. Couple of loose moments maybe but I thought he did his job well. Even when he doesn’t get to a ball first he’s excellent at knocking an opponent off stride and disrupting things. I’m encouraged. I thought the game completely passed him by to be honest, Watford totally bossed the midfield and dominated us for large periods of the game, especially in the second half Not having a pop at the lad he has only been here 2 minutes and hasn’t had a preseason so it’s hardly surprising he is not up to speed Romey 1878 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, duncanmckenzieismagic said: I thought the game completely passed him by to be honest, Watford totally bossed the midfield and dominated us for large periods of the game, especially in the second half Not having a pop at the lad he has only been here 2 minutes and hasn’t had a preseason so it’s hardly surprising he is not up to speed There were certainly flashes of a good player but I agree with this. Ideally, Gbamin probably wouldn’t have played until Lincoln in the cup but Schneiderlin’s suspension and Delph’s injury has denied us that luxury. I think he’ll be just fine though. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 I think he looks very solid from a defensive point of view but I expect to see more from him on the ball in the future. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 I only got to see bits and pieces considering I was working, but he did... ok. Got stuck in when needed and made some good blocks but his passing seemed a bit off or, in some cases, the intended recipient wasn’t on the same page as him. For a second game and about 2 weeks with his new teammates, I’m quite optimistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, Matt said: I only got to see bits and pieces considering I was working, but he did... ok. Got stuck in when needed and made some good blocks but his passing seemed a bit off or, in some cases, the intended recipient wasn’t on the same page as him. For a second game and about 2 weeks with his new teammates, I’m quite optimistic So didn't quite gbang it out of the park then, but could end up being a gbrilliant buy! (I'll stop now before I get gboring) markjazzbassist, StevO and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 49 minutes ago, Matt said: I only got to see bits and pieces considering I was working, but he did... ok. Got stuck in when needed and made some good blocks but his passing seemed a bit off or, in some cases, the intended recipient wasn’t on the same page as him. For a second game and about 2 weeks with his new teammates, I’m quite optimistic Digne was at fault for one good ball going out for a throw in. Gave him a shout and then didn't make the run. plaidharper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 I was actually pretty impressed. Biggest thing is how much he shows for the ball - after the first game I wouldn’t have been surprised if he eased into it and didn’t go looking for it. Seems an honest player - scraps well. I feel once he sharpens up the little loose moments - he will really dominate midfield. I remember fellani starting at Everton and he was very rough, this bloke has real potential. markjazzbassist and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 I like him. Still getting used to the league and team and stuff but you can see there is a player in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Had a few good moments in the first half. Not a terrible start to his career with us. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, StevO said: Had a few good moments in the first half. Not a terrible start to his career with us. This for me. In flashes you could see yesterday what we can look forward to - a player that will cover ground, can have a battle, he'll look to receive the ball at all times, is happy to pass the ball on but is equally as willing to move forward with it himself. Looks understandably rusty and like he's getting up to speed with PL football, but the signs are good. StevO and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 I’ve hardly seen him so far but encouraged by what you boys are saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 The one comparison I would make between him and Gana based on what I have seen before was shown in the Doucoure chance. I don't know if he did get a touch on it before Doucoure but the fact he was actually there and tracking the run was a big difference compared to Gana. I have seen Gana enough over the 3 years to be almost certain that he would have been watching the ball and had no idea about where Doucoure was. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Saved a goal for certain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-gbamin-injury-statement-significant-16809701 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-gbamin-injury-statement-significant-16809701 That’s sounds ominous could be weeks, just when after the Villa game you thought things couldn’t get any worse, what next a loss to Lincoln Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just the sort of news we don't want to hear after last nights showing, hope it's not as long as we're fearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Sounds a bad injury. That leaves Morgan to play every game. Great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 It has been announced that he has suffered a significant injury to his right quadriceps muscle. I fear we will not be seeing him for a long time that is huge injury happened to me once and I didn’t play for about 6 months, okay I didn’t have the treatment that’s available to him but we are still taking months not weeks. All we can really do is offer him a speedy recovery and hope he’s back sooner than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Awful news. I would get Davies in there or something, I’m tried of seeing morgan plaidharper and nyblue23 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 This is real bad news for us. I think you could see this lad was slowly going to find his feet. We need to find another solution. And though I rate Gylfi, his is the one position that needs attention. Maybe we need to experiment there a bit. People thought Gana was the issue, and it’s clear as day that isn’t he issue. We’re creating less now than when’s Gana was linking up. Lets not let Gana become a other Arteta or Lukaku. Gbamin could have became that player, and I’m not writing him off, but we need to have a back up plan ready for these eventualitys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 months he will be out for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 awful news. just awful, i really like the player and think he will come good. let's hope this is an injury he can bounce back from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 25/08/2019 at 07:55, markjazzbassist said: Awful news. I would get Davies in there or something, I’m tried of seeing morgan Indeed. Hopefully get some minutes in the cup to impress Silva. Also, Delph should be getting close to being back as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 Why can we never have nice things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisk Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 Time to bring Beni back into the fold - at least as another option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, Cisk said: Time to bring Beni back into the fold - at least as another option? i thought he went out on loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisk Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: i thought he went out on loan Thought it fell through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 McCarthy MKII - I desperately hope not but his history with thigh injury isn’t great. 17/18 Thigh Muscle Strain Dec 14, 2017 Jan 1, 2018 18 days 2 17/18 Thigh Problems Jul 17, 2017 Sep 4, 2017 49 days 3 16/17 Muscular problems Apr 20, 2017 May 4, 2017 14 days 2 16/17 Thigh Problems Sep 19, 2016 Sep 26, 2016 7 days 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 Beni just been sent off for the U21s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 This is really a bummer. Schneiderlin is just not up to it. His complacency shows every time he’s on the pitch, even when he’s slamming the ground in frustration at his own mistakes. I really hope Delph can step in and form a partnership with Gomes because otherwise our midfield will suffer badly from this. markjazzbassist and Wiggytop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 https://www.evertonfc.com/news/1335394/silva-makes-vow-to-gbamin Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-handed-jean-philippe-gbamin-16939257 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 I really hate the Echo website. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-handed-jean-philippe-gbamin-16939257 That was an informative article! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jean-philippe-gbamin-agent-everton-17029597?fbclid=IwAR3BC4SyGk9A8Sl1bxzAekYct0JHVFln7QW9r7c93U0Q1Lfh0DBHfiVCdoc From his breif cameo I agree, think he'd do well at centre half. Anyone would be an improvement on Keane tbf. Shame we never brought someone else in with more experience ti help bring along our relatively young defenders through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, pete0 said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jean-philippe-gbamin-agent-everton-17029597?fbclid=IwAR3BC4SyGk9A8Sl1bxzAekYct0JHVFln7QW9r7c93U0Q1Lfh0DBHfiVCdoc From his breif cameo I agree, think he'd do well at centre half. Anyone would be an improvement on Keane tbf. Shame we never brought someone else in with more experience ti help bring along our relatively young defenders through. If he was to come in at centre half it would be for Mina, not for Keane. Regardless of how good or bad anyone thinks Keane is he won’t be getting dropped any time soon in the premier league. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 9 hours ago, StevO said: If he was to come in at centre half it would be for Mina, not for Keane. Regardless of how good or bad anyone thinks Keane is he won’t be getting dropped any time soon in the premier league. How come? Mina has been the better of the two, and Zouma was also when he was here. He's a clear weak link that needs addressing, that and the shoehorning of Sigurdssen. Deacs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 13 hours ago, pete0 said: How come? Mina has been the better of the two, and Zouma was also when he was here. He's a clear weak link that needs addressing, that and the shoehorning of Sigurdssen. I personally don’t think Keane is the weak link, I don’t think Mina is either to be fair. I’m happy for them both to play. But can you honestly see the manager dropping Keane? We hardly saw Mina and Zouma play together last season did we? Ive said before from reading a secret footballer book that you very rarely see two black centre halves. I thought it was a load of rubbish, but then the writer goes on to make further points about how managers don’t trust two black centre halves to he organised enough and always play at least one white lad to do the organising. He goes as far to say that from youth development the black lads tend to be faster so they put on the wings or up front, but not as often in central defence or central midfield. The positions of trust tend to go to white lads from a young age so when they make it into the top level they are already in their positions. He used Southampton as an example, Walcott and Ox came through as wingers but Ward Prowse was a centre mid and Bale a left back, he names a few others but I don’t remember them, but said it was rife at Southampton and everyone in the game knows it. I laughed when I started reading it but he started to name pairings in the premier league and you start to see it doesn’t happen. Nearly all managers in the European game play at least one white lad in the two. me and my mate who I go the match with have talked about it on a few occasions. Yeah in the cup we’ve played Mina and Holgate, but in the league Keane is almost guaranteed a place. Remember when we had Yobo, Lescott and Jags, Jags would be the one who played every week. Can anyone think of a black centre half combo that’s played together for a prolonged period successfully? Im not saying it’s fact, but when you look at it there is a pattern. The manager might have other reasons for picking Keane, I don’t know. I know he won’t be getting dropped any time soon though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 Steve0 interesting point, I'm sure there have been, and are still some poor non black defensive pairings though. If you look across the park who is the leader at the back? VVD of course. Also I don't see Keane as an organiser, he's a player who needs confidence, early last season he was a rabbit in headlights, as the pairing with Zouma developed Keane improved, and he has been the same rabbit again so far this season, with Mina putting in the better performances as time goes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Wiggytop said: Steve0 interesting point, I'm sure there have been, and are still some poor non black defensive pairings though. If you look across the park who is the leader at the back? VVD of course. Also I don't see Keane as an organiser, he's a player who needs confidence, early last season he was a rabbit in headlights, as the pairing with Zouma developed Keane improved, and he has been the same rabbit again so far this season, with Mina putting in the better performances as time goes on. You can add Kompany to that too. I’m not saying it’s certain, but it’s very hard to find many anomalies. And from your first paragraph, don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying you have to have a white lad in there to be successful, I’m can name plenty of black and white players who are good and who are shit. I’m just relaying a very interesting point that I read from someone who is inside the system. I just find it hard to prove it wrong, and I’ve tried. There are the odd anomalies like VVD who plays with Matip, or Kompany who played with Lescott (who was then replaced by about six different white lads) but it’s hard to prove it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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