Vranny Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 I’ll be most curious to see what his role in the team is, especially when the players he’s looking to displace (Bernard, Richarlison and Sigurdsson) have all been big signings too. Most of the talk I ever hear about him is that he’s more of an attacking mid that’s been forced to play out wide for most of his career. He’s supposed to be pretty intelligent with his passing compared to most wide players for instance. He could make for a more mobile alternative to Gylfi that most of us have been crying out for. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 38 minutes ago, Vranny said: I’ll be most curious to see what his role in the team is, especially when the players he’s looking to displace (Bernard, Richarlison and Sigurdsson) have all been big signings too. Most of the talk I ever hear about him is that he’s more of an attacking mid that’s been forced to play out wide for most of his career. He’s supposed to be pretty intelligent with his passing compared to most wide players for instance. He could make for a more mobile alternative to Gylfi that most of us have been crying out for. the arse forum posts said they thought he should be a CM or AM, they don't consider him a winger even though he was played on the left. apparently for nigeria he plays through the middle and has said he likes that best. could be the young guy supposed to give gylfi some competition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Vranny said: He’s supposed to be pretty intelligent with his passing compared to most wide players for instance. High praise from Wenger. Wouldn't mind seeing him behind the striker as a couple on here have already said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 I think he could be a massive signing for us. Looking forward to see where he fits in but to me it looks like Silva has a change of formation in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: the arse forum posts said they thought he should be a CM or AM, they don't consider him a winger even though he was played on the left. apparently for nigeria he plays through the middle and has said he likes that best. could be the young guy supposed to give gylfi some competition? This is Everton, we don't pay 40 mil for bench warmers and backups. I think Silva has something up his sleeve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Btay said: Why? He's a different kind of player. Hasn't got the ability to finish like Zaha has or make defenders as uneasy. Iwobi is great at retaining the ball and keeping possession but he's not going to create something out of nothing. Like I said before Lookman is not far off zahas ability and we've really just swapped Lookman for a player of similar ability (in my opinion, no facts to back this up), but it's cost us 20m. Bernard does the same job as Iwobi. We needed a left footed winger and I settled on Zaha due to his pure ability that could take us to the next level. It was a desperate signing, much like smalling or Rojo would have been and despite it being a well thought out window before the TDD it feels like the last day spoiled it a little bit and made me question the efficency of the club slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Aidan said: He's a different kind of player. Hasn't got the ability to finish like Zaha has or make defenders as uneasy. Iwobi is great at retaining the ball and keeping possession but he's not going to create something out of nothing. Like I said before Lookman is not far off zahas ability and we've really just swapped Lookman for a player of similar ability (in my opinion, no facts to back this up), but it's cost us 20m. Bernard does the same job as Iwobi. We needed a left footed winger and I settled on Zaha due to his pure ability that could take us to the next level. It was a desperate signing, much like smalling or Rojo would have been and despite it being a well thought out window before the TDD it feels like the last day spoiled it a little bit and made me question the efficency of the club slightly. I disagree that lookman is closer to Zaha’s ability but each to their own! I really hope you end up surprised by this signing. Zaha for 90mil would have had me really questioning the efficiency of this club though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Btay said: I disagree that lookman is closer to Zaha’s ability but each to their own! I really hope you end up surprised by this signing. Zaha for 90mil would have had me really questioning the efficiency of this club though. Sorry for the confusion I mean Lookman is similar to iwobi. When I'm disappointed we sign an individual they usually prove me wrong and visa versa when I'm excited for a signing they usually flop Agreed though 90m would have been rediculous. They got everyone excited though didn't they?! Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Peter H said: This is Everton, we don't pay 40 mil for bench warmers and backups. I think Silva has something up his sleeve. Don't think iwobi would come here to warm the bench at his age either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Marco in press conference says he will play on the left or can play behind the front man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Aidan said: He's a different kind of player. Hasn't got the ability to finish like Zaha has or make defenders as uneasy. Iwobi is great at retaining the ball and keeping possession but he's not going to create something out of nothing. Like I said before Lookman is not far off zahas ability and we've really just swapped Lookman for a player of similar ability (in my opinion, no facts to back this up), but it's cost us 20m. Bernard does the same job as Iwobi. We needed a left footed winger and I settled on Zaha due to his pure ability that could take us to the next level. It was a desperate signing, much like smalling or Rojo would have been and despite it being a well thought out window before the TDD it feels like the last day spoiled it a little bit and made me question the efficency of the club slightly. Very much disagree. He has the trickery, strength and pace to unsettle most! I know I’m going to refer to the highlight reel here, but one thing that stood out was his ability to turn people inside out, usually by nutmegging them. London Blue, EFC-Paul and Btay 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Problem with Bernard is his size for the physicality of the premier league, iwobi won’t be brushed of the ball as easily, so with iwobi we should hopefully keep the ball better in the final 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 43 minutes ago, Mogsy said: Problem with Bernard is his size for the physicality of the premier league, iwobi won’t be brushed of the ball as easily, so with iwobi we should hopefully keep the ball better in the final 3rd I haven’t really noticed that his size as caused him problems I would say quite the opposite, his low center of gravity and pace help him skin players, his biggest problem for me is his finishing it’s shit, that’s where I see Iwobi having an advantage over Bernard. Btay and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Peter H said: This is Everton, we don't pay 40 mil for bench warmers and backups. I think Silva has something up his sleeve. Yeah we didn’t pay 40m, we paid 28m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Could be a sleeper signing. Happy with that price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Vranny said: I’ll be most curious to see what his role in the team is, especially when the players he’s looking to displace (Bernard, Richarlison and Sigurdsson) have all been big signings too. Most of the talk I ever hear about him is that he’s more of an attacking mid that’s been forced to play out wide for most of his career. He’s supposed to be pretty intelligent with his passing compared to most wide players for instance. He could make for a more mobile alternative to Gylfi that most of us have been crying out for. 3 hours ago, Finn balor said: Marco in press conference says he will play on the left or can play behind the front man What I read (and I have read a couple of different quotes about it) is that he will play on the left and cut inside behind the striker rather than being an AM. He will play like Bernard does cutting inside creating room for Digne to raid forward. Richie and Walcott are both more direct finishers in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Mogsy said: Problem with Bernard is his size for the physicality of the premier league, iwobi won’t be brushed of the ball as easily, so with iwobi we should hopefully keep the ball better in the final 3rd Size has never bothered Hazard, Silva, Mata, Ossie, etc. Balance, quick feet, close control can often beat bigger and stronger players. I agree they Iwobi is a lot stronger but from what I’ve seen he more often than not beats or holds off a player with skill rather than strength Palfy, markjazzbassist and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Matt said: Size has never bothered Hazard, Silva, Mata, Ossie, etc. Balance, quick feet, close control can often beat bigger and stronger players. I agree they Iwobi is a lot stronger but from what I’ve seen he more often than not beats or holds off a player with skill rather than strength Bernard is a weakling though. Tenacious and skillful but bigger lads just push him off the ball. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 And hopefully Iwobi is more of a goal thread. I think Bernard has it in him, but he needs to show that he can have more end product this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Sibdane said: And hopefully Iwobi is more of a goal thread. I think Bernard has it in him, but he needs to show that he can have more end product this season. Bernard for a hat trick tomorrow then sounds OK to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Bailey said: Bernard is a weakling though. Tenacious and skillful but bigger lads just push him off the ball. Sometimes but I’ve seen him dip under and turn out of the pressure several times too. Plus he’s not afraid to get stuck in Bailey and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Matt said: Sometimes but I’ve seen him dip under and turn out of the pressure several times too. Plus he’s not afraid to get stuck in Yeh he proper battles for such a little fella. Seen “stronger” guys pushed off easier because they have no mongrel. Needs to sharpen up his finishing though. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 13 hours ago, Btay said: Yeh he proper battles for such a little fella. Seen “stronger” guys pushed off easier because they have no mongrel. Needs to sharpen up his finishing though. You're not kidding. That volley miss on an open net in one of the pre-season matches was atrocious. He probably still had time to wait for the half volley too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 His composure on the ball is brilliant. Until he gets near the box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 fer gawrds sake guys give him a fucking chance his first game and he is as rusty as hell and he is still being criticised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, rubecula said: fer gawrds sake guys give him a fucking chance his first game and he is as rusty as hell and he is still being criticised Not even his first game, he didn’t play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 who in hell are you talking about stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 5 hours ago, StevO said: Not even his first game, he didn’t play. I assume he thinks he’s in the Gbamin thread? 5 hours ago, rubecula said: who in hell are you talking about stevo This is the Iwobi thread Rubes? Did you get lost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 11 hours ago, rubecula said: who in hell are you talking about stevo I was talking about Iwobi, in the Iwobi thread haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, StevO said: I was talking about Iwobi, in the Iwobi thread haha Steady on mate other people might get ideas and discuss players in the correct thread, that'd be really confusing, not the TT way at all. Matt and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 How did Gana and Lukaku get on yesterday? plaidharper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, StevO said: How did Gana and Lukaku get on yesterday? Who ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 I think Iwobi watched that game and thought with all that possession in the oppositions half I can stamp my mark on this team, he is probably the most skill full player we have in the team now, so drop either Bernard or Gylfi and give him the freedom of Goodison and he will destroy the Watford back line. London Blue and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Lookman similar ability to Zaha....Jesus Christ Iwobi is a better player than Lookman and has more in his locker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, EFC-Paul said: Lookman similar ability to Zaha....Jesus Christ Iwobi is a better player than Lookman and has more in his locker Nobody said this, did they? As for the second paragraph, iwobi is more proven in the games he has played with his return of goals /assists, but im not sure he will be better in the long run than Lookman. I'm uneasy with the signing of iwobi, I felt like there were better options earlier on in the window and he was a panic buy after we realised Zaha wasn't a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 On 12/08/2019 at 22:51, Aidan said: Nobody said this, did they? As for the second paragraph, iwobi is more proven in the games he has played with his return of goals /assists, but im not sure he will be better in the long run than Lookman. I'm uneasy with the signing of iwobi, I felt like there were better options earlier on in the window and he was a panic buy after we realised Zaha wasn't a possibility. "Like I said before Lookman is not far off zahas ability" Not far off = lesser but similar Lookman had been given ample opportunities to prove his worth and bar the very odd flash we never saw any consistency from him, something which multiple managers would have seen in training etc Iwobi will prove to be a good singing especially for the money considering the market and buying from essentially a possible rival/English club MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 36 minutes ago, EFC-Paul said: "Like I said before Lookman is not far off zahas ability" Not far off = lesser but similar Lookman had been given ample opportunities to prove his worth and bar the very odd flash we never saw any consistency from him, something which multiple managers would have seen in training etc Iwobi will prove to be a good singing especially for the money considering the market and buying from essentially a possible rival/English club I don’t think Lookman did get a decent go of it, he was always coming on as sub and rarely started, never consistently. Still, Iwobi is a much further developed you talent and I’m still as excited now as TDD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 agreed, i'm not a big iwobi fan but he's a heck of a lot farther along than lookman who was still living off that first goal he scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 2 hours ago, EFC-Paul said: "Like I said before Lookman is not far off zahas ability" Not far off = lesser but similar Lookman had been given ample opportunities to prove his worth and bar the very odd flash we never saw any consistency from him, something which multiple managers would have seen in training etc Iwobi will prove to be a good singing especially for the money considering the market and buying from essentially a possible rival/English club Do apologise I meant iwobi not Zaha. All of this could have been avoided! Zaha is head a shoulders above Lookman. Btay and nyblue23 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Brands mentioned in his latest interview that he could provide competition for Siggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, plaidharper said: Brands mentioned in his latest interview that he could provide competition for Siggy. as suspected he is the younger siggy replacement. i gotta hand it to Brands, unlike previous regimes where we replaced only once they were gone for 2 years, he is doing it well in advance of needing that player so they are blooded and accustomed to our style and culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 We paid £28 mill for Iwobi and got £20 mill for lookman give or take a few mill? I must admit I’ve not seen enough of Iwobi but he’s had a lot more premier league games and contributed more in a more successful team markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Finn balor said: We paid £28 mill for Iwobi and got £20 mill for lookman give or take a few mill? I must admit I’ve not seen enough of Iwobi but he’s had a lot more premier league games and contributed more in a more successful team i admit i didn't want Iwobi but i'm warming to him, reading the arse forum and seeing how much he's already played in the Prem and Internationally i think we could have a decent player. very young too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 A very promising debut from him and I hope he gets his full debut on Wednesday. It was lovely having someone that wanted to get involved, unlike the fella he came on to replace who is happy to showcase the superpower of invisibility. Matt and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 He looked really promising. Always wanted to be involved. He could be a really shrewd signing. Has to start with kean StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: A very promising debut from him and I hope he gets his full debut on Wednesday. It was lovely having someone that wanted to get involved, unlike the fella he came on to replace who is happy to showcase the superpower of invisibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad all over Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 He could be one if the leaders on the park that were talked about in the matchday thread. Seamus seemed quiet yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 i was not impressed, he had one decent shot that's about it. i didn't see any of the creative defense splitting passes that he's supposed to be known for. if he's supposed to replace gylfi i'm not impressed. never wanted this guy here, i hope he kicks it up a notch and proves me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: i was not impressed, he had one decent shot that's about it. i didn't see any of the creative defense splitting passes that he's supposed to be known for. if he's supposed to replace gylfi i'm not impressed. never wanted this guy here, i hope he kicks it up a notch and proves me wrong. You need locking up you nutter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, Palfy said: You need locking up you nutter Tell me something I don't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: i was not impressed, he had one decent shot that's about it. i didn't see any of the creative defense splitting passes that he's supposed to be known for. if he's supposed to replace gylfi i'm not impressed. never wanted this guy here, i hope he kicks it up a notch and proves me wrong. Have u merged into Pete? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 i have never rated iwobi and walcott, 2 players we sadly signed. i've been wrong on so many players let's hope that's what it is. but i saw enough arsenal to see that they are not good. everyone acting like iwobi was messi out there, he had a shot off the bar and little else. he dithered on the ball too much, he needs to be more decisive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 It’s called a post. And he was our most decisive player on the pitch by a mile when he came on Matt and plaidharper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, but apparently Iwobi made more passes to Kean/DCL in the last game than Gylfi has in the last three matches. Shocking, if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sibdane said: Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, but apparently Iwobi made more passes to Kean/DCL in the last game than Gylfi has in the last three matches. Shocking, if true. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, Sibdane said: Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, but apparently Iwobi made more passes to Kean/DCL in the last game than Gylfi has in the last three matches. Shocking, if true. Shut up, Gylffi is just a scapegoat don't you know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Shut up, Gylffi is just a scapegoat don't you know! There's a conspiracy, and Iwobi is behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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markjazzbassist Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 Are these the same stats that have been used to prove lukaku and gana wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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