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18 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

I’d keep the league cup but make it for Championship to League 2 and let them compete for a Euro place. Like an FA Cup but without the PL teams always winning 

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1. Win the league. 2. Win any other trophy. 3. Qualify for the Champions League. 4. Quality for the Europa Cup. 5. Finish as high up the league as possible.

When you haven't won anything since 1995 I don't think you can have the privilege of calling any trophy "Mickey Mouse". I get what you are saying don't get me wrong but as someone who was 2 years of a

That’s not what it’s about for me. It’s another game to go to, another day out, another trip to Wembley.  If we get to Europa, it’s a chance for a trip away with the lads or my dad to watch the b

55 minutes ago, Matt said:

I’d keep the league cup but make it for Championship to League 2 and let them compete for a Euro place. Like an FA Cup but without the PL teams always winning 

No chance of there being a Euro place for it if that happened. They'd get bombed most seasons they were in it more than likely, negatively impacting our coefficient score which would then threaten how many European places we got each season.

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9 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

No chance of there being a Euro place for it if that happened. They'd get bombed most seasons they were in it more than likely, negatively impacting our coefficient score which would then threaten how many European places we got each season.

True. It’d be nice to help the lower leagues to develop though 

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18 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

It would be even nicer to help Everton to develop!

How does the league cup help with that? It adds a competition / fixtures that no one takes seriously, including us, in an already condensed schedule. 

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9 minutes ago, Matt said:

How does the league cup help with that? It adds a competition / fixtures that no one takes seriously, including us, in an already condensed schedule. 

Without wanting to start the entire debate again it can help in several ways, it’s our most realistic chance of winning a trophy, gets us in Europe, attracts better calibration of player etc etc 

If you haven’t already watch Howard’s Way and see how important the players feel that League Cup tie against Oxford was in setting them on their way to becoming the most successful Everton side in history

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43 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

Without wanting to start the entire debate again it can help in several ways, it’s our most realistic chance of winning a trophy, gets us in Europe, attracts better calibration of player etc etc 

If you haven’t already watch Howard’s Way and see how important the players feel that League Cup tie against Oxford was in setting them on their way to becoming the most successful Everton side in history

Don’t get me wrong, if it stays as it is I want us to go at it full throttle as I’ve stated repeatedly. But if it’s going to be cancelled or changed from it’s current state, I’d like the Europa spot to stay and give and help develop the lower leagues. 

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44 minutes ago, Bailey said:

If we get past Fleetwood its West Ham or Hull at home. 

Good draw.

Quite pleased with that to be honest, two clubs that are an absolute mess behind the scenes - something which would probably filter down onto the pitch. 

Would prefer Hull, but would be very disasapointed if we exited at the hands of West Ham - two sides that we should be beating comfortably there IMO. 

The draw elsewhere looks good too, Liverpool to play Arsenal and Chelsea to play Spurs.

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23 minutes ago, Aidan said:

Moyes given the chance will build a decent team, i just dont think he's the right fit at the minute with WHU. I dont think anyone is the right fit under their current ownership and can smell trouble for them this season. 

I don't see anything about Moyes that says building a decent team.  He struck gold at Everton on the low fees high wages model.  It's all different now.   

He's had loads of chances to prove himself and failed to live up to his Everton reputation

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23 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

I don't see anything about Moyes that says building a decent team.  He struck gold at Everton on the low fees high wages model.  It's all different now.   

He's had loads of chances to prove himself and failed to live up to his Everton reputation

i agree with you here Haf.  It seems he does better with strict boundaries and limitations.  the unlimited money (united, WH) hasn't been kind to him.

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1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said:

i'm guessing by then the bigger clubs are facing each other.  still it's a very favorable draw that Carlo will be well aware of.  let's hope we take advantage.

They already have, Liverpool have drawn Arsenal and Chelsea have drawn Spurs. That's two of the larger sides already out - just the two Manchester clubs that haven't faced each other yet. 

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Very unfair to Orient to be told they've forfeited their game against Spurs. It's an incentive for clubs not to test their players for the coronavirus.

Mind you, this might be a double-edged sword for Spurs. Now they have a League game this weekend, a Cup game against Chelsea maybe on Tuesday, a Europa League match on Thursday, and another League game next weekend. In their shoes, I'd rather wish the Cup game was postponed or that they forfeit, too.

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34 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

No it wouldn't. If clubs didn't test their players they'd not be allowed to play the game.

There should be some compensation to Orient for doing the right thing, then. Maybe they should receive a share of the TV revenues from the Chelsea-Spurs match. A forfeit like this disproportionately harms the small team.

Incidentally, do we honestly believe Spurs would have been forced to forfeit if the situation were reversed?

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37 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

There should be some compensation to Orient for doing the right thing, then. Maybe they should receive a share of the TV revenues from the Chelsea-Spurs match. A forfeit like this disproportionately harms the small team.

Incidentally, do we honestly believe Spurs would have been forced to forfeit if the situation were reversed?

No alternative though really. Can’t hold the entire competition up for weeks. I imagine this will incentivize teams to be diligent about their Covid precautions. 

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https://www.evertonfc.com/news/1848356/iwobi-on-surging-everton-confidence-and-big-cup-ambitions

In the past a player gives an interview like this and then we balls up the game. Everything feels different now so I'm at the very least expecting a strong performance even if we don't get through, rather than the complete capitulations we've witnessed in the past.

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1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said:

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/1848356/iwobi-on-surging-everton-confidence-and-big-cup-ambitions

In the past a player gives an interview like this and then we balls up the game. Everything feels different now so I'm at the very least expecting a strong performance even if we don't get through, rather than the complete capitulations we've witnessed in the past.

Even those who are not interested in us winning trophies must surely see the benefit of winning tonight to keep the feel good factor and momentum going ?

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2 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

Even those who are not interested in us winning trophies must surely see the benefit of winning tonight to keep the feel good factor and momentum going ?

No one has said they want the team to lose. Some of us would prefer the squad players to play to allow the first team to focus on the league, plus it gives the squad players and kids a chance.

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17 minutes ago, pete0 said:

No one has said they want the team to lose. Some of us would prefer the squad players to play to allow the first team to focus on the league, plus it gives the squad players and kids a chance.

I think Cornish might 😂

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Brentford/Fulham, Aston Vila/Stoke or Newcastle would be the dream draws. We always seem to pull Liverpool whenever we are doing well in a cup competition so wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if that's the ball that we pull, just got to hope in that case that Arteta works some magic and knocks them out :). 

The two Manchester sides are taking this seriously too, so would be a strong test.

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2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

draw tomorrow, here is who's left

 

Tottenham

Newcastle

Manchester City

Manchester Utd

Everton

Brentford or Fulham

Aston Villa or Stoke

Liverpool or Arsenal

 

Spurs, Newcastle, Brentford, Fulham, Villa or Stoke please. 

City get knocked out by United and Liverpool out by Arsenal would also be great. 

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It's not a bad draw to be honest, the two toughest teams are against each other in Arsenal and Manchester City, obviously one will go out which should make things smoother.

Brentford vs. Newcastle is a really good tie too, both shite teams that we should really get past so hopefully we can pull from this fixture if we make the semi final. 

Mourinho taking his foot off the gas and dropping a clanger against Stoke would be great too, the winner will come from either of the Everton/United, Arsenal/City ties. 

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