Carlo Ancelotti

[Shukes 4,688]

On 26/01/2021 at 07:03, Haiku said:

What if we finish fifth and lose on the FA cup final? 

He’s gone! Take that shitty James with him as well! 
One can’t even beat Leicester 5-0, and the other can’t even defend!

[Bill 1,348]

Time to bring Moyes back.

[Hafnia 7,021]

4 hours ago, Bill said:

Time to bring Moyes back.

Bloody Nora, I think I'd cry.  Wait to see what happens when west ham start buying better players... He's got a compliant bunch at the moment, he can't handle big players.

[Matt 8,499]

People do realise Bill is on the windup, right?

 

 

right @Bill?

[markjazzbassist 3,411]

Moyes has them playing well and he sold haller.  Credit where it’s due but let’s see where they end up at the end of the campaign.  
 

side note: I’ve heard that a lot of the players really are responding because of the work Kevin Nolan is doing........I jest, I jest.  Lol

[Bill 1,348]

2 hours ago, Matt said:

People do realise Bill is on the windup, right?

 

 

right @Bill?

 Right Matt. 😀 😀

[Romey 1878 14,469]

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2002202/ancelotti-reveals-next-step-in-everton-evolution

[dunlopp9987 860]

@milesey05 said it in the Leeds thread, but Carlo not playing James today was spot-on tactically. It seems a no-brainer, to not play someone who's work rate isn't that great against a team who is all work rate, but we've had plenty of managers the last few years who wouldn't have thought twice about it and thrown James out there just because he's James. 

Brilliant piece of management by Carlo Fantastico. 

[Matt 8,499]

2 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said:

@milesey05 said it in the Leeds thread, but Carlo not playing James today was spot-on tactically. It seems a no-brainer, to not play someone who's work rate isn't that great against a team who is all work rate, but we've had plenty of managers the last few years who wouldn't have thought twice about it and thrown James out there just because he's James. 

Brilliant piece of management by Carlo Fantastico. 

Careful mate, if you question his defensive efforts you’ll be lynched. Team has to adapt to him don’t forget...

[Palfy 3,854]

15 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said:

@milesey05 said it in the Leeds thread, but Carlo not playing James today was spot-on tactically. It seems a no-brainer, to not play someone who's work rate isn't that great against a team who is all work rate, but we've had plenty of managers the last few years who wouldn't have thought twice about it and thrown James out there just because he's James. 

Brilliant piece of management by Carlo Fantastico. 

Without trying to sound like I’m knocking James I think it would have been a different result with him in the team and Carlo new that, I expect he will start against Utd where he will have more space and time to show his ability and get us attacking them from defence splitting passes. 

[London Blue 2,518]

10 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Without trying to sound like I’m knocking James I think it would have been a different result with him in the team and Carlo new that, I expect he will start against Utd where he will have more space and time to show his ability and get us attacking them from defence splitting passes. 

Its a squad game, certain players unlock certain defences, James will unlock more than most. For games where the physical is as important as skill  we need different players.

[Zoo 2.0 1,431]

 

[RuffRob 737]

He knows the games isbstill on a knife edge at that point.

Ancelotti will do the celebrating when we lift the cup 😁

[Romey 1878 14,469]

2 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

 

Thank god Ferguson didn't jump on him or he may have ended up with that drink all over his face .

[Zoo 2.0 1,431]

23 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Thank god Ferguson didn't jump on him or he may have ended up with that drink all over his face .

"Everton regret to announce that Carlo Ancelotti will miss the game against Fulham, due to third degree burns."

[barryj 1,273]

25 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Thank god Ferguson didn't jump on him or he may have ended up with that drink all over his face .

That’s why he made sure he had a hot drink! His back still put out from the weekend. 

[jofanon 236]

No way do we win that game with Marco SIlva in charge.  Big change in mentality lately!

[dunlopp9987 860]

I just can't get over how much I love his professionalism. Of all the class acts, he's the classiest. No making excuses (Klopp), no running around on the pitch when we score a late goal (Klopp), no antics (Klopp). 

He may not always get it right, and we will surely have a fair many more bumpy roads to cross over, but I want to see Carlo at the helm for as long as he wants it.

[markjazzbassist 3,411]

i wonder why he's sending dunc to do the pressers now

[London Blue 2,518]

6 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

i wonder why he's sending dunc to do the pressers now

he has done it in all the FA cup match's I think. Part of his development I guess.

[Romey 1878 14,469]

1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said:

i wonder why he's sending dunc to do the pressers now

It's quite a common thing to let the assistant have these duties for cup games. Like LB says, it's also part of the process of him going on to become a manager himself.

[markjazzbassist 3,411]

gotcha, thanks guys

[Gwlad all over 700]

Seems he didn't want to crow when we were in front, too much respect for Mourinho or any opposing managers for that matter. Pundits go on about how how liked he is but I always sense the subtext "why have Everton got him" ☺️

[markjazzbassist 3,411]

1 hour ago, Gwlad all over said:

Seems he didn't want to crow when we were in front, too much respect for Mourinho or any opposing managers for that matter. Pundits go on about how how liked he is but I always sense the subtext "why have Everton got him" ☺️

They can’t believe it can they.  The best signing we’ve made in decades, finally turning this club around.

[Btay 2,353]

Hopefully we can get 4 points from our games in hand - putting us in 4th spot. With favourable run in, richarlison looking like he could be back to goal scoring form and some big players coming back from injury - we could really push on here.

[Romey 1878 14,469]

Reports that there was an attempted break in at his home. 

[London Blue 2,518]

38 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Reports that there was an attempted break in at his home. 

Hope he and his family are ok, burglaries can be very traumatic. 

Also hope that security is tight at his home.

[Romey 1878 14,469]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/12216691/carlo-ancelotti-everton-managers-home-targeted-by-masked-burglars

[StevO 6,141]

Fucking scum, anyone who breaks into someone’s home, regardless of who’s home, are just worthless scum. 

[markjazzbassist 3,411]

Awful

[Palfy 3,854]

1 hour ago, StevO said:

Fucking scum, anyone who breaks into someone’s home, regardless of who’s home, are just worthless scum. 

I’ve been burgled twice first time when we were at work and the kids were at school, second time we were in bed the kids had left home but we had our 3 year old granddaughter staying, you know how it is when you’re missus wakes you up with the words of there’s some one in the house, and you say I can’t hear anything and roll over again job done, not this time panicked missus pushes me again, so okay I’ll have a look get up look out the bedroom window and see 2 lads are legging it across the road towards the fields and copses, quickly pull boxers on run down stairs grab the biggest knife out the kitchen and I’m off after them, running through wood’s and fields in the dark with nothing on my feet not a great decision spent 20 minutes or so looking then headed back home feet not in a very good shape. 
Get home and  the police are there a bloke and a woman, the male copper sees the knife in my hand and starts having a pop at me, we have a few words which results in him threatening to arrest me and me telling them to get the fuck out of my house, had to phone the station the next day to get a crime number for the insurance company, I remember thinking this is going to go down well after last night but to be fair to them they gave me the number and nothing was said.

15 years later if I met that copper I would apologise to him he was doing his job, and was right if I would have caught up with one of them I would have been doing a lot of time in prison or a cemetery. 

[Zoo 2.0 1,431]

I could name my worst childhood memory in a second, without hesitation. Being burgled isn't just the material that is taken, it's the feeling that comes afterwards of what has happened and what could have happened to make it ten times worse. 

Anyone that breaks into someone else's property is scum and doesn't have the basic human morals that should be expected from everyone - regardless of their background or life story. 

Hopefully Carlo gets his safe back and the incident didn't traumatise his daughter too much, just glad that everyone in the household was unharmed.

[London Blue 2,518]

15 minutes ago, Palfy said:

I’ve been burgled twice first time when we were at work and the kids were at school, second time we were in bed the kids had left home but we had our 3 year old granddaughter staying, you know how it is when you’re missus wakes you up with the words of there’s some one in the house, and you say I can’t hear anything and roll over again job done, not this time panicked missus pushes me again, so okay I’ll have a look get up look out the bedroom window and see 2 lads are legging it across the road towards the fields and copses, quickly pull boxers on run down stairs grab the biggest knife out the kitchen and I’m off after them, running through wood’s and fields in the dark with nothing on my feet not a great decision spent 20 minutes or so looking then headed back home feet not in a very good shape. 
Get home and  the police are there a bloke and a woman, the male copper sees the knife in my hand and starts having a pop at me, we have a few words which results in him threatening to arrest me and me telling them to get the fuck out of my house, had to phone the station the next day to get a crime number for the insurance company, I remember thinking this is going to go down well after last night but to be fair to them they gave me the number and nothing was said.

15 years later if I met that copper I would apologise to him he was doing his job, and was right if I would have caught up with one of them I would have been doing a lot of time in prison or a cemetery. 

It's hard mate, if somebody threatens your family, your home instinct and anger can take over. Ultimately it comes down to keeping you and your family safe tho, possessions can be replaced, loved ones cannot.

It can be very hard to recover from a break in because your home is where you are supposed to feel safe, if someone breaks in that that feeling of safety can be hard to get back, sometimes it cant and people have to move.

I would advise everyone to check their homes, make sure they have good strong locks on doors and windows. Have motion activated lights by windows and doors and a prominently placed burglar alarm. If you cant afford an alarm then a convincing imitation can do a job.

Tall fences and bushes give burglars cover from the roads so maybe consider shortening them. Most importantly make sure doors and windows are closed and locked at night or when you leave the house.

Burglars, (unless they are specifically targeting a specific house) look for easy targets so make yours a hard target. If you have a car parked outside use a driving wheel lock that's visible, it shows that you take security seriously. 

Contact your local safer neighbourhood team who can help with crime prevention advice and with a Neighbourhood Watch. You would be surprised who effective they can be.

Lastly you do not know the mindset of someone who is prepared to break into someones home to steal. For all they know the occupants could be MMA fighters, yet they do it. Think about that.

The Burglars may have weapons, and if they have them then they may be prepared to use them. If you pick up a weapon are you prepared to use it, or will you hesitate, freeze. If you threaten them with a weapon you massively up the anti. I'm not saying don't do it and the law allows for "Instant arming" just think about the risks. 

If you think someone has broken in call the Police asap, who will get there as fast as they can. They have stab vests, handcuffs, batons, tazers and training! 

[Gwlad all over 700]

Once when I shared a flat and twice the family home. It is shit.

 

Also thanks LB for your on the job input.

[pete0 2,215]

59 minutes ago, Palfy said:

I’ve been burgled twice first time when we were at work and the kids were at school, second time we were in bed the kids had left home but we had our 3 year old granddaughter staying, you know how it is when you’re missus wakes you up with the words of there’s some one in the house, and you say I can’t hear anything and roll over again job done, not this time panicked missus pushes me again, so okay I’ll have a look get up look out the bedroom window and see 2 lads are legging it across the road towards the fields and copses, quickly pull boxers on run down stairs grab the biggest knife out the kitchen and I’m off after them, running through wood’s and fields in the dark with nothing on my feet not a great decision spent 20 minutes or so looking then headed back home feet not in a very good shape. 
Get home and  the police are there a bloke and a woman, the male copper sees the knife in my hand and starts having a pop at me, we have a few words which results in him threatening to arrest me and me telling them to get the fuck out of my house, had to phone the station the next day to get a crime number for the insurance company, I remember thinking this is going to go down well after last night but to be fair to them they gave me the number and nothing was said.

15 years later if I met that copper I would apologise to him he was doing his job, and was right if I would have caught up with one of them I would have been doing a lot of time in prison or a cemetery. 

Policeman was a gobshite. Clearly you'd be emotional after a burglary.

Fight or flight is natural. 

[Palfy 3,854]

1 hour ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

I could name my worst childhood memory in a second, without hesitation. Being burgled isn't just the material that is taken, it's the feeling that comes afterwards of what has happened and what could have happened to make it ten times worse. 

Anyone that breaks into someone else's property is scum and doesn't have the basic human morals that should be expected from everyone - regardless of their background or life story. 

Hopefully Carlo gets his safe back and the incident didn't traumatise his daughter too much, just glad that everyone in the household was unharmed.

I get that Zoo the first time it happened my kids game consoles and games were taken, they were so upset 10,8 and 6 hard for them to understand and scary as well all though it didn’t have any lasting effects that we are aware of kids are resilient. 
But what has happened to Carlo and his family is frightening, his daughter must be in pieces and the rest of the family for that matter, things could have turned out a lot worse in situations like that, there are some fucking low life’s out there. 

[markjazzbassist 3,411]

Not sure about Europe but here in the states the fuzz recommend having exterior lights left on at night.  A well lit up house is less likely to be robbed, I guess because they could be seen easily and also it looks like people are home.  I’ve got floodlights in my backyard and side lights on my driveway, always leave the front porch light on as well.  I put LED bulbs in all of them so it won’t hurt my electric bill, does give me a sense of comfort.  Also on the first floor we don’t have any TV or expensive electronics.  So it doesn’t look like a good target (unlike the neighbor who you can see their 90” screen lit up from space through their front window).

[Matt 8,499]

Oh joy, something like need to think about again  

[Sibdane 2,277]

He got it wrong today, but let’s be honest, if he got everything right he probably wouldn’t be here right now. 

[dunlopp9987 860]

Give him the keys to the city. 

Carlo Fantastico got it right today. 

What a day to be a blue. 

[markjazzbassist 3,411]

tactics were spot on, subs spot on,  well done carlo.  thank you for being our manager.

[Wiggytop 714]

41 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

tactics were spot on, subs spot on,  well done carlo.  thank you for being our manager.

I agree, but not many were saying that at kick off!

[Romey 1878 14,469]

I'm happy for him to stay as long as he wants to, and if he thinks Davide Ancelotti is the right man to take over after him I'll go with that also.

[Zoo 2.0 1,431]

 

[Gwlad all over 700]

2 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

I'm happy for him to stay as long as he wants to, and if he thinks Davide Ancelotti is the right man to take over after him I'll go with that also.

Yep. Davide was well made up with the win, he definitely gets us! As was Big Dunc, he loved it.

[MC11 1,232]

Imagine a manager winning at Anfield after 22 years. Enough said! Carlo Magnifico 

[Hafnia 7,021]

3.50am..... can't sleep so watching match of the day. Cheers Carlo, you've given me nice early morning viewing!!!

[badaids 721]

For as much as he called it wrong against Fulham he totally called every shot right for the Derby. Like a man counting cards in a casino when the house is out to get you. 

[Romey 1878 14,469]

He looked as happy, and as blown away, as us that we'd actually done it when Sky got him straight after the game. You could tell that he genuinely understood just how massive that win was to the fans.

I'm not someone that particularly cares whether the manager gets us or not, but Carlo does. He really does. The way he's embraced the club, the fans, the area, our history... It's not just because he's a fantastic manager, it's more because he's a fantastic man.

[Romey 1878 14,469]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/29327/12226118/jamie-carragher-carlo-ancelotti-was-evertons-man-of-the-match-in-win-over-liverpool-at-anfield

[Bailey 5,173]

Were the tactics actually that good?

We had three meaningful attempts in open play in the game against a side that played most of the game against two distinctly average centre backs and no genuine holding midfielders. On the whole, we were unable to hold any sort of meaningful possession or generate regular counter attacking opportunities. The thing that we did do in this game and have done under Ancellotti is convert those chances.

Whilst we did restrict them to very few chances, they still had enough to win the game on another day. My view, is that if we play that way 100 times, we will lose more than we win.

Don't get me wrong, I am ecstatic that we finally got one over on them but looking forward, I hope and expect a lot better than that.

[pete0 2,215]

12 minutes ago, Bailey said:

Were the tactics actually that good?

We had three meaningful attempts in open play in the game against a side that played most of the game against two distinctly average centre backs and no genuine holding midfielders. On the whole, we were unable to hold any sort of meaningful possession or generate regular counter attacking opportunities. The thing that we did do in this game and have done under Ancellotti is convert those chances.

Whilst we did restrict them to very few chances, they still had enough to win the game on another day. My view, is that if we play that way 100 times, we will lose more than we win.

Don't get me wrong, I am ecstatic that we finally got one over on them but looking forward, I hope and expect a lot better than that.

I can only think of three chances they had with the tame Mane header that would never go in. Salah but he never had the space or angle. With their best chance being a volley from outside the box, how often do they go in once a season maybe? 

We weren't clinical, the chances were much more clear cut. We had the better chances and looked more likely to score on the counter than they did at breaking us down. More so when DCL came on. 

[RuffRob 737]

28 minutes ago, Bailey said:

Were the tactics actually that good?

We had three meaningful attempts in open play in the game against a side that played most of the game against two distinctly average centre backs and no genuine holding midfielders. On the whole, we were unable to hold any sort of meaningful possession or generate regular counter attacking opportunities. The thing that we did do in this game and have done under Ancellotti is convert those chances.

Whilst we did restrict them to very few chances, they still had enough to win the game on another day. My view, is that if we play that way 100 times, we will lose more than we win.

Don't get me wrong, I am ecstatic that we finally got one over on them but looking forward, I hope and expect a lot better than that.

I don't agree with that at all - Liverpool had the lions share of possession, but that was about it (and we where set up to allow that). The did very little to hurt us - Pickford made a couple of decent saves - but I think had he not made the saves their would be plenty on his case. It was nothing like the Man City game where they actually did simply run us in to the ground.

Liverpool only really had a decent spell at the beginning of the second half. 

I think tactically Ancelotti got it spot on - if we had played more open in an effort to get at their centre backs more we would have been more likely to concede. Simple as that. We were also 0 -1 up very early, so was far more important to keep it tight than get a second goal. We may have go at them a little more had it been 0-0, will never know. 

But at 0-1 throughout much of the game it was just as likely to be 0-2 as 1-1.   So away to the Champions, tactics seemed OK to me. 

Over night we are not going to go from a mid table team to a team who will come out and dominate play against Liverpool or the likes. 

We are now getting to many positive results playing this way against top 6 teams for it to be a bit of luck.

We just now need to now get on top of getting results in game in which we dominate possession. 

[RuffRob 737]

On 21/02/2021 at 09:21, Romey 1878 said:

He looked as happy, and as blown away, as us that we'd actually done it when Sky got him straight after the game. You could tell that he genuinely understood just how massive that win was to the fans.

I'm not someone that particularly cares whether the manager gets us or not, but Carlo does. He really does. The way he's embraced the club, the fans, the area, our history... It's not just because he's a fantastic manager, it's more because he's a fantastic man.

I think you are spot on -  Ancelotti is the closet we could get to having a home grown manager. I imagine he actually knew fairly little about the club before he was approached for the job, but like you said he fully embraces every aspect of the clubs he works for and does his best to deliver to the remit his employers have given him.

Having read in his book about his disappointment at not be given the time to deliver a longer term project at PSG (for which he was originally employed) you can just tell him coming to Everton is because he is just as genuinely enthusiastic about this 'Everton project'.

He has 'been there and done that' and has won pretty much everything there is to win in the game - His head is not going be be turned by offers from 'big clubs'. I would hazard a guess that he would not want to leave until he has actually achieve and delivered what he has been employed to do.  How many non home grown managers could you honestly have fair in to do that. 

We have been through a lot of pain going through Koeman and Silva, but if we had a couple of improved years under either of them (say something similar to how a fresh Poch succeeded at Spur), in all likelihood they will have dumped us for the  Barcelona's of this world (and taken their favourite players) with them leaving us back at square one. I now count us as very luck to have Ancelotti at the club.

I am with you totally, we have a fantastic man and manager leading out club at the moment - the longer he is here and the more he leaves his unique footprint on this club of ours the better.  

If anybody hasn't read his book yet, its definitely worth reading, it details all that is important to him in life and football and its great to see it being implemented at Everton. 

[Romey 1878 14,469]

2 hours ago, Bailey said:

Were the tactics actually that good?

We had three meaningful attempts in open play in the game against a side that played most of the game against two distinctly average centre backs and no genuine holding midfielders. On the whole, we were unable to hold any sort of meaningful possession or generate regular counter attacking opportunities. The thing that we did do in this game and have done under Ancellotti is convert those chances.

Whilst we did restrict them to very few chances, they still had enough to win the game on another day. My view, is that if we play that way 100 times, we will lose more than we win.

Don't get me wrong, I am ecstatic that we finally got one over on them but looking forward, I hope and expect a lot better than that.

Have a day off, would you?  

[markjazzbassist 3,411]

2 hours ago, Bailey said:

Were the tactics actually that good?

We had three meaningful attempts in open play in the game against a side that played most of the game against two distinctly average centre backs and no genuine holding midfielders. On the whole, we were unable to hold any sort of meaningful possession or generate regular counter attacking opportunities. The thing that we did do in this game and have done under Ancellotti is convert those chances.

Whilst we did restrict them to very few chances, they still had enough to win the game on another day. My view, is that if we play that way 100 times, we will lose more than we win.

Don't get me wrong, I am ecstatic that we finally got one over on them but looking forward, I hope and expect a lot better than that.

and people think Romey is negative, FFS you are one miserable bastard bailey

[Zoo 2.0 1,431]

3 hours ago, Bailey said:

Were the tactics actually that good?

Yes, they were. 

NEXT!

[Romey 1878 14,469]

14 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

and people think Romey is negative, FFS you are one miserable bastard bailey

This actually annoys me a bit because when it’s good I literally bounce off the walls. When we won our first 7 games this season I probably enjoyed it and played it up more than anyone on here!

I just get seriously pissed off when it’s shit as well.

[markjazzbassist 3,411]

1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said:

This actually annoys me a bit because when it’s good I literally bounce off the walls. When we won our first 7 games this season I probably enjoyed it and played it up more than anyone on here!

I just get seriously pissed off when it’s shit as well.

to be fair it was more a dig at bailey then you, if i offended, i apologize.  i loved how happy you were at the beginning of the year when we were top of the league and winning games left and right, so i know that you aren't always cranky.

[Romey 1878 14,469]

4 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

to be fair it was more a dig at bailey then you, if i offended, i apologize.  i loved how happy you were at the beginning of the year when we were top of the league and winning games left and right, so i know that you aren't always cranky.

 not offended like, more just thinking it’s an unfair label 😛