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Hello from Colombia.. I leave my creation in honor of  King James and the club. Everton win the premiere league this season..certified.  

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-james-rodriguez-plans-18895190   Very encouraging that it appears like the marketing boys are on to this already

Latest report (i know to take any report with a pich of salt!!) is that he is willing to take a pay cut to get a help facilitate a move to Eveeton. Now if that is true it is a massive difference to so

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58 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Going to be a massive test for us without him. Let’s see if we can create.

Big chance for Doucoure to stand up.

?  we are putting doucoure on the right of a forward 3?  WTF you talking about.  it will be a big test for Iwobi/Bernard/Gordon whomever comes in for James and Richarlison.

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2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

?  we are putting doucoure on the right of a forward 3?  WTF you talking about.  it will be a big test for Iwobi/Bernard/Gordon whomever comes in for James and Richarlison.

You watched Doucoure at all? He is the one that can pick up the ball and drive forward to start an attack. 
We’re not going to have to have that box to box talk again are we 😉

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3 hours ago, Matt said:

No Richarlison either. 

I know mate, someone is going to need to step up and take this by the scruff. I really think Doucoure can come into his own a bit while these are absent. 
He is capable of linking defence and attack quickly, setting us up further up the field.

Also an opportunity for a few squad players to come in and make a stake.

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4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

If he'd said he's a doubt then maybe, but he said he's out. No ifs, buts or maybe's.

He had a mistimed tackle with Virgil van Dijk at the beginning of the game and I think he will not be available for the game against Southampton."
 

“I think” is not 100%

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3 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

?  we are putting doucoure on the right of a forward 3?  WTF you talking about.  it will be a big test for Iwobi/Bernard/Gordon whomever comes in for James and Richarlison.

No not on the right, but he means we’re going to have to alter our game plan for this game at least, and Doucoure has the skill set to play differently, and  none of the three you mention have the skill set of James, or Richy, so it’s a different style needed. In Carlo we trust👍

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1 hour ago, Wiggytop said:

No not on the right, but he means we’re going to have to alter our game plan for this game at least, and Doucoure has the skill set to play differently, and  none of the three you mention have the skill set of James, or Richy, so it’s a different style needed. In Carlo we trust👍

Iwobi is supposed to be a creative player.  So is bernard.  I would expect them to be the replacement and do the creative work.  Doucoure isn’t a forward so I don’t see what he has to do with James.

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2 hours ago, Shukes said:

I know mate, someone is going to need to step up and take this by the scruff. I really think Doucoure can come into his own a bit while these are absent. 
He is capable of linking defence and attack quickly, setting us up further up the field.

Also an opportunity for a few squad players to come in and make a stake.

It’ll be Iwobi and Bernard coming in imo. 

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1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said:

Iwobi is supposed to be a creative player.  So is bernard.  I would expect them to be the replacement and do the creative work.  Doucoure isn’t a forward so I don’t see what he has to do with James.

Only James and Digne have made more key passes for us than Doucoure. Richarlison has made the 4th most and Doucoure has made twice that amount. 

Lets not underestimate his role in this team, he isnt running around like a mad man for the sake of it. Hes effective in both halves of the pitch and the only criticism i have of him is I'd like to see him shoot more often. 

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2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

You’re setting yourself up for a big disappointment, Btay. 

I’m just saying that I think this is Carlo deflecting the media from Pickford. If he doesn’t on the weekend I’m not too bothered but he played 85 minutes with the knock. It’s not serious what so ever but it’s an opportunity for Carlo to deflect some of the shit coming at us from the Derby away. I actually think it’s great man management from Carlo and IF James is actually out this weekend he’s used that negative in a positive way.

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3 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Iwobi is supposed to be a creative player.  So is bernard.  I would expect them to be the replacement and do the creative work.  Doucoure isn’t a forward so I don’t see what he has to do with James.

Can’t remember exactly what game it was but I think we didn’t have Allan or James on And Doucoure played his best game. Watch him step up here, he might feel a bit subdued given the high profile of James/Allan but if we get him on the ball more he has the quality to run the game for us. Great player.

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3 hours ago, MC11 said:

It’ll be Iwobi and Bernard coming in imo. 

Depends on how Carlo sets us up really - the good thing is now we have so many options to tweak tactics ect.

I feel Gordon is the most like for like with Richarlison so I wouldn’t be surprised if he went wide left with Bernard playing James’s role. I’d love to say Siggy is like for like with James but he would need to break his own shackles are demand the ball like James does.

Coleman injury though means we could see a change of shape. Interesting to see how Caro approaches this. 

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9 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Iwobi is supposed to be a creative player.  So is bernard.  I would expect them to be the replacement and do the creative work.  Doucoure isn’t a forward so I don’t see what he has to do with James.

I didn't say replacing him mate. Your right, someone else will replace him.

But no one is going to come in and be at the same quality as what we have lost so we need someone in the team to take that role of starting attacks. Doucoure could be that person.

If we can only rely on forwards being creative, then we have to accept mid table. But again... Carlo will not accept that, he wants more. He will expect players from all around the team to help create.

Wish you could have watched us in the 80’s MJB, there wasn’t a player on the pitch who couldn’t create. We were beautiful!

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9 hours ago, Btay said:

I’m just saying that I think this is Carlo deflecting the media from Pickford. If he doesn’t on the weekend I’m not too bothered but he played 85 minutes with the knock. It’s not serious what so ever but it’s an opportunity for Carlo to deflect some of the shit coming at us from the Derby away. I actually think it’s great man management from Carlo and IF James is actually out this weekend he’s used that negative in a positive way.

Nothing is going to deflect the media from Pickford. It hasn't stopped, has it? 

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43 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Nothing is going to defelct the media from Pickford. It hasn't stopped, has it? 

I don’t get involved in all this media bullshit, or the hate everything Liverpool do thing.

But my respect for their fans (or a large part of them) and the media has dropped faster than the titanic in the last week. Absolutely disgusted by it all. What makes it worse is the amount of ex professionals chirping in as well. 
 

It’s got to the point where I actually hope they have more bad luck coming their way. And I hate myself for saying things like that.

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I’d be happy to see Allan and Doucoure in a midfield two. Ward-Prowse and Romeu wouldn’t get a look in against them two. 
Could play Gylfi in the ten and let Gomes sit out. 
Get some pace in the wings, with Gordon being one of them. 
 

Ive liked the 433 so far, but without Richarlison and James I’d be looking at 451 (I refuse to put 4231, it’s just bloody stupid) and really control the game from the midfield and our wingers stretching the defence. 

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37 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Great to hear from him. Biggest surprise for me has been his effort. I was expecting him to be a little lightweight. But he snaps into challenges strongly. No one ghosts past him.

Yeah He may be a pretty boy with a waif like physique. .... But he's played footy in some of the toughest environments.  South American players deffo have to know how to look after themselves

 

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10 hours ago, Hafnia said:

Yeah He may be a pretty boy with a waif like physique. .... But he's played footy in some of the toughest environments.  South American players deffo have to know how to look after themselves

 

Can we send Gomes on loan there.

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56 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Can we send Gomes on loan there.

Gomes and Gylfi wouldn't last 5 minutes.

Don't know if anyone else noticed Davies who was warming up when digne got hit by Maguire.  Davies was in Maguire's face.

I don't think Davies is good enough or whatever... I'd have him in the side ahead of the two above on principles alone. 

 

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7 hours ago, Hafnia said:

Gomes and Gylfi wouldn't last 5 minutes.

Don't know if anyone else noticed Davies who was warming up when digne got hit by Maguire.  Davies was in Maguire's face.

I don't think Davies is good enough or whatever... I'd have him in the side ahead of the two above on principles alone. 

 

Davies is more of a captain than Gylfi ever was.

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9 hours ago, Hafnia said:

Gomes and Gylfi wouldn't last 5 minutes.

Don't know if anyone else noticed Davies who was warming up when digne got hit by Maguire.  Davies was in Maguire's face.

I don't think Davies is good enough or whatever... I'd have him in the side ahead of the two above on principles alone. 

 

Every player as a duty to lead by example and show spirit and fight Davies has that in bundles, what he lacks in natural ability he more than makes up for in endeavour, we see that to an extent with Allan, but with Gylfi and Gomes we don't, Gylfi just isn't good enough even if he tried his hardest he wouldn't make it here, and that's more about him as a player than his attitude, I do believe he wants to succeed and tries he's simply not good enough. 

Gomes annoys the fuck out of me he has the ability we know that, now he's lost the fight and desire and it's shit to watch him just going through the motions doing nothing of any worth with a half hearted attitude, he needs to step up show some fight and passion for the club that resurrected his career before he becomes like Schneiderlin, because at the moment its seems to be heading that way.

So at the moment our only hope is give Davies a shot and pray that Gbamin comes back from his injury and proves to be the player we hoped we bought, then back into the transfer market come January. 

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2 hours ago, Bailey said:

If Davies came in, he would be crap and then we would be saying bring Gomes or bring Siggy back or play Bernard or Gomes there.

We just need to face it that none of them are good enough to play there week in week out at the moment. 

It almost feels at the minute Sigurdsson and Gomes are just being rotated until one of them has a good game and can claim a spot to start the next week. I think when richarlison returns we can almost afford for one of those two to almost be passengers until we can recruit someone to play in that 3 man midfield. 

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2 hours ago, Aidan said:

It almost feels at the minute Sigurdsson and Gomes are just being rotated until one of them has a good game and can claim a spot to start the next week. I think when richarlison returns we can almost afford for one of those two to almost be passengers until we can recruit someone to play in that 3 man midfield. 

We can't and shouldn't be affording passengers. We gave them a chance to play themselves into some form but this is the point of having a competitive squad. Said it during our winning streak that Gomes needed to be dropped to make an example, despite being in a winning team. We lost a couple of key performers and we are now in this position. We can't be dependent on the same 3/4 players to be at their absolute best to win us games each week whilst the rest go through the motions. 

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2 hours ago, pete0 said:

I'd give Davies a proper run and see how he does with Doucoure and Allan. If not move James central and give a wide player ago. Both Sigurdsson and Gomes should be down the waiting list to be gifted another chance.

As much as I don’t rate Davies. Could he really do any worse than Gomes and Sigurdsson right now? I’m not sure!

 

Play him in a more advanced role in front of Allan and Doucoure. I’m scraping the barrell here I really am but I never want to see Sigurdsson play in a blue shirt again.

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1 hour ago, Btay said:

We can't and shouldn't be affording passengers. We gave them a chance to play themselves into some form but this is the point of having a competitive squad. Said it during our winning streak that Gomes needed to be dropped to make an example, despite being in a winning team. We lost a couple of key performers and we are now in this position. We can't be dependent on the same 3/4 players to be at their absolute best to win us games each week whilst the rest go through the motions. 

I think at this moment in time we are left with no other choice 

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32 minutes ago, Bailey said:

How do people feel about James asking to be subbed off because he was tired this weekend?

I imagine that might have not gone down well if it was certain other players in the team.

he wasn't particular effective on Saturday, he got the original knock in the Derby, he hasn't trained much in the past 3weeks - he didn't look sharp. 

I would rather he came off rather than push on and potentially get injured - he was not going to start playing better in the last 20mins if his legs where getting heavy. 

I have not got a problem with a player returning from an injury letting the manager know he is spent. 

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1 hour ago, Bailey said:

How do people feel about James asking to be subbed off because he was tired this weekend?

I imagine that might have not gone down well if it was certain other players in the team.

I was very disappointed to hear this myself. An injury.. sure. Tired.... hmmm, buckle up and get on with it. 

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3 hours ago, RuffRob said:

he wasn't particular effective on Saturday, he got the original knock in the Derby, he hasn't trained much in the past 3weeks - he didn't look sharp. 

I would rather he came off rather than push on and potentially get injured - he was not going to start playing better in the last 20mins if his legs where getting heavy. 

I have not got a problem with a player returning from an injury letting the manager know he is spent. 

At this stage of the season its not like he is short of fitness even with a knock. 

To me he didn't look that interested, rather than sharp. We have seen him come in from no football for 18 months or whatever it was and be the classiest player on the pitch against Spurs so it doesn't fit for me. 

2 hours ago, Shukes said:

I was very disappointed to hear this myself. An injury.. sure. Tired.... hmmm, buckle up and get on with it. 

That's my initial thought. I'm not too bothered either way but I just thought it was a bit strange to hear. In fact I dont think I have heard it before other than the fat lad in a 5 a side game who is about to have a heart attack! 

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1 hour ago, Matt said:

Apparently bringing Isco in would Impact James negatively according to the Echo....

:rofl: 

They just get worse. World class player impacted negatively by arrival of world class player.

It must be hell for the top teams when they're doing that in every window - getting worse by getting better...

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14 hours ago, Bailey said:

At this stage of the season its not like he is short of fitness even with a knock. 

To me he didn't look that interested, rather than sharp. We have seen him come in from no football for 18 months or whatever it was and be the classiest player on the pitch against Spurs so it doesn't fit for me. 

 

He got the knock against Livperpool - so he would not have not trained much the week leading up to Southampton, then was laid up after that game for 10day or so.  I imagine he's done little intense training since Liverpool. We are in full swing now rather than first game of the season. 

I know if you are two or three weeks out of your from your training, you need at decent week - 10days to be back on it.

Also, the first month of intense English football may be catching up with him a little, like you said he's not played a great deal for 18months.

I think we where all surprised how well Rodrigues played in the first 3-4 games. I am sure he would have been pretty pumped up to be back playing for a new club in a new league and country so will have been a lot adrenaline. That first month will have been pretty draining on him both physically and mentally - there was a lot of attention on him in all fairness. All done, in this draining COVID environment.

Looking at the whole picture, I can understand why Rodriquez might be feeling a little jaded on Saturday. 

I never expected to see the best of him (and our new squad) until the New Year, so was pleasantly surprised by his first month. 

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13 hours ago, Aidan said:

I wonder if it waw because he was tired or if he had a niggle on his bollock still. 

No not his Bollocks, the reason he and other footballers feel tired is having to carry all that money they get around to the Bank.  Tired my arse, 60 minutes of football ffs.

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44 minutes ago, Bill said:

No not his Bollocks, the reason he and other footballers feel tired is having to carry all that money they get around to the Bank.  Tired my arse, 60 minutes of football ffs.

He’s been carrying a very sensitive injury which gets a lot impact and movement when running, the pain of which impacts wears anyone down quicker. 

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4 hours ago, RuffRob said:

He got the knock against Livperpool - so he would not have not trained much the week leading up to Southampton, then was laid up after that game for 10day or so.  I imagine he's done little intense training since Liverpool. We are in full swing now rather than first game of the season. 

I know if you are two or three weeks out of your from your training, you need at decent week - 10days to be back on it.

Also, the first month of intense English football may be catching up with him a little, like you said he's not played a great deal for 18months.

I think we where all surprised how well Rodrigues played in the first 3-4 games. I am sure he would have been pretty pumped up to be back playing for a new club in a new league and country so will have been a lot adrenaline. That first month will have been pretty draining on him both physically and mentally - there was a lot of attention on him in all fairness. All done, in this draining COVID environment.

Looking at the whole picture, I can understand why Rodriquez might be feeling a little jaded on Saturday. 

I never expected to see the best of him (and our new squad) until the New Year, so was pleasantly surprised by his first month. 

I think you probably hit the nail on the head with the 3rd and 4th paragraphs. 

As an update, Carlos Quirez (sp?) Has updated the media to say he has an injury. He doesn't say what but he makes reference to the game. 

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