Shukes Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 One does not simply sign James Rodriguez...... Sorry! StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, Hafnia said: There are no guarantees in football. He has come here specifically to play for ancellotti - a player of his calibre does not sign for Everton in our current team status. In fact not many players would want to play for us. If he has a great season, I see him signing. Why go elsewhere? That’s how I feel, as long as he can stay injury free everything else is set up for him to have a successful time here. A manager who he respects and plays to his strengths, a guaranteed starting place, and once you’ve been touched by people’s club you find it hard to leave. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Shukes said: One does not simply sign James Rodriguez...... Sorry! What you talking about Shukester Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Palfy said: What you talking about Shukester Just my inner dorkiness coming out haha!! Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 Although he will get a decent enough basic salary, salaries can also be topped up with bonses for appearances, goals, assists, getting in to europe etc. I am sure these sorts of things can more easily be negotiated in to the package for a player who seems to really want to come here. My gut feeling is that Rodrigeze whats to come to Everton for footballing reasons and not becasue we are simply waving a exessive salary in front of him. This is key to my enthusiasum for him coming. I think he will come with a hunger in his football. So i am very excited by the prospect of him wearing a blue shirt. I think players around him will also be motivated by the addition of such a player. Romey 1878, Matt and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 He's in Portugal at the moment so it doesn't appear like anything is close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, RuffRob said: Although he will get a decent enough basic salary, salaries can also be topped up with bonses for appearances, goals, assists, getting in to europe etc. I am sure these sorts of things can more easily be negotiated in to the package for a player who seems to really want to come here. My gut feeling is that Rodrigeze whats to come to Everton for footballing reasons and not becasue we are simply waving a exessive salary in front of him. This is key to my enthusiasum for him coming. I think he will come with a hunger in his football. So i am very excited by the prospect of him wearing a blue shirt. I think players around him will also be motivated by the addition of such a player. Like I've said elsewhere, having players of his technical capability on the training field will put a lens on how technically shite many of our players are in terms of passing and retaining the ball. The culture of our play starts on the training pitch. By all accounts he's quite an intense footballer, he will hopefully enhance all areas. Romey 1878 and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Like I've said elsewhere, having players of his technical capability on the training field will put a lens on how technically shite many of our players are in terms of passing and retaining the ball. The culture of our play starts on the training pitch. By all accounts he's quite an intense footballer, he will hopefully enhance all areas. Haf, I find myself embarrassed watching us play and seeing how bad we are with the ball. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: There are no guarantees in football. He has come here specifically to play for ancellotti - a player of his calibre does not sign for Everton in our current team status. In fact not many players would want to play for us. If he has a great season, I see him signing. Why go elsewhere? Exactly, this is why I have been arguing for a loan deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 30 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Haf, I find myself embarrassed watching us play and seeing how bad we are with the ball. Shocking at times, it's as though most of them think a one touch pass that goes nowhere gets a 10/10 for effort, so they do that rather than take a touch. I've been reading some fans saying "better players will get the best from gylfi and Gomes"...... my thoughts are sod them, at a time when they were our best technical players - they hid, allowed Tom Davies to try things and evidently carry the can for stray passes etc. It's about attitude as much as aptitude. We've had far too many cowards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bailey said: Exactly, this is why I have been arguing for a loan deal. I'm fine with either option. I honestly don't see him failing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 11 hours ago, Bailey said: The one pinch of salt with this is how he then translates those stats in playing for Everton. Its all well and good creating and scoring bucket loads in a team full of stars but its a different kettle of fish when you have Gomes or Davies misplacing a 10 yard pass in your general direction Completely agree. Im not expecting those numbers here but not many in world football have a return like that. Really excited but trying not to expect too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post barryj Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 I think it would be massively beneficial to have two players that have played for Carlo, obviously really admire and believe in him and have played regularly at the highest level. This surely has to rub off on the rest of the squad and if this can’t motivate and drive them to improve nothing will. Still can’t get fully excited until it done though. Gwlad all over, Matt, StevO and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 SSN reporting transfer now. Genuinely they have also said 48 hours so take it with a pinch of salt! Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 Reports are currently saying €25m or £22.4m. Would have thought it would have been less, Real Madrid clearly getting a good deal. Others I've read have said he will be our highest paid player on £150k a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: He's in Portugal at the moment so it doesn't appear like anything is close. http://sportwitness.co.uk/james-rodriguez-porto-sunday-potential-boost-everton-quarantine-rules/ Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 https://www.espn.com/soccer/real-madrid/story/4170150/everton-move-a-chance-for-james-rodriguez-to-deliver-on-his-potential chicagoblue, Romey 1878 and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Aidan said: Reports are currently saying €25m or £22.4m. Would have thought it would have been less, Real Madrid clearly getting a good deal. Others I've read have said he will be our highest paid player on £150k a week. Personally I expect that if he does sign he will be on a lot more than 150k a week or that it will be significantly topped up by very basic bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Bailey said: Personally I expect that if he does sign he will be on a lot more than 150k a week or that it will be significantly topped up by very basic bonuses. Doubt it. Think it’ll be the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 Not really sure how we can afford this level of wages. Can only mean we have some rapidly developing plans to offload a few of the current high earners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 8 hours ago, Aidan said: Reports are currently saying €25m or £22.4m. Would have thought it would have been less, Real Madrid clearly getting a good deal. Others I've read have said he will be our highest paid player on £150k a week. Papertalk - I don't think we will have to part with that much for him. We are in quite a strong position, think the plaher now has his heart set on playing under ancelloti again. bit like Spurs where with hojberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, RuffRob said: Papertalk - I don't think we will have to part with that much for him. We are in quite a strong position, think the plaher now has his heart set on playing under ancelloti again. bit like Spurs where with hojberg. Exactly, i dont think Madrid are silly enough to keep him for another season on his wages plus lose him for nothing next season. Under 10 is a steal. He will bring a massive commercial that will help with what ever we pay him. I think we put Bernard on 120,000 a week, id expect James to be on at least that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Matt said: Doubt it. Think it’ll be the other way around. Apparently he is on about £280k a week at Madrid. He will definitely become our highest paid player and if Siggy/Bernard are on £120-150k per week he will better them. Plus if he is losing out on his weekly wage we will be making it up somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bailey said: Apparently he is on about £280k a week at Madrid. He will definitely become our highest paid player and if Siggy/Bernard are on £120-150k per week he will better them. Plus if he is losing out on his weekly wage we will be making it up somewhere else. Ive seen it at about 200k a week but who really knows? I doubt very much we would be willing to pay him that. It is rare however you see a player wanting to take so much of a wage cut. He must really want to get his career back on track and/or play under Carlo again. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 Reading these comments, we are real suckers paying that much per week for Sigurdsson and Bernard. They’re worth half that. chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Reading these comments, we are real suckers paying that much per week for Sigurdsson and Bernard. They’re worth half that. Bernard came on a free so no initial outlay. Gylfi was the marquee signing. Think Schneiderlin was on around 120k too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/coronavirus-uk-quarantine-portugal-full-list-grant-shapps-a9697931.html Get him on a plane! markjazzbassist, StevO and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 36 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/coronavirus-uk-quarantine-portugal-full-list-grant-shapps-a9697931.html Get him on a plane! If the deal is close he must be getting on the plane either today or tomorrow?! markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 can you imagine the silky passes and link up play with him and richarlison? my lord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 I’m still traumatised by the whole ‘Muller is flying to Goodison in a helicopter to finalise his contract’ in 1994. So I will never believe that we have signed a high profile player again. The only proof I will accept that we have signed them is that we have transfer listed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 37 minutes ago, badaids said: I’m still traumatised by the whole ‘Muller is flying to Goodison in a helicopter to finalise his contract’ in 1994. So I will never believe that we have signed a high profile player again. The only proof I will accept that we have signed them is that we have transfer listed them. There’s been plenty more since then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 I know the pain. I saw Manny Fernandes in La Tasca in town after he had flown in due to sign tomorrow. Said hello and asked him if he was there to sign for Everton, he said “tomorrow, tomorrow” and we left him to his dinner. The next day he jumped on a flight to Valencia. He was in the fucking city centre, get the contract signed then go and get a bit of tapas. Actaully, I’ve only just seen the irony of him going for a Spanish meal and deciding to bugger off to Spain. Shukes, SpartyBlue, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 Media sources in Colombia already reporting the transfer as complete. Perhaps the club are waiting for Allan to officially confirm both at once? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/09/01/exclusive-everton-agree-three-year-deal-real-madrids-james-rodriguez/ Looks like it’s on a permanent deal then Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/09/01/exclusive-everton-agree-three-year-deal-real-madrids-james-rodriguez/ Looks like it’s on a permanent deal then Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 Both set for medicals tomorrow according to SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 I’m not going to pretend I’m not excited!! Sky Sports News will be on all day in the office tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 Biggest day in transfers since we landed Barry and Lukaku. Hoping it has the same or better effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: Biggest day in transfers since we landed Barry and Lukaku. Hoping it has the same or better effect Even then Barry didnt excite the fans. All 3 of these signings have got most of our hearts pounding! StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 Kudos to the Everton owners and management team. Despite the disappointments of Koeman and Silva, they’re willing to spend to support their manager. Third time lucky. You can’t blame a lack of commitment, that’s for sure. Shukes, Matt, Steve_E and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 6 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Kudos to the Everton owners and management team. Despite the disappointments of Koeman and Silva, they’re willing to spend to support their manager. Third time lucky. You can’t blame a lack of commitment, that’s for sure. I agtee, and i have said before big part of the shambolic transfers over the past 4years has in the main been down to Moshiri and almost over egerness to build a better team. He has spent with the right intentions, lesson being you can't just throw big wages at players!! But it sounds luke we are a little more sencible. Rodrigeuz is reportedly taking about a 50% pay cut in order to come here. Straight away Rodriguez has my respect. Given he would have been available as a free transfer in 12 months time, i am sure he would have been able to get a sign on fee and better wage deal. I would guess by signing for us, Rodriquz is giving up around £4m to £5m a year for the next 3years!!! So maybe a sacrifice of at least £15m!! So he will have a vastly different attitude to a lot of big money signings made in the past. He is not going to be lacking passion and enthusiasum, he is definately come here with hunger and a point to prove. Just for taking a significant paycut Rodriques gets my respect however this transfer turns out. His agent must be puling his hair out!! Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 5 hours ago, RuffRob said: I agtee, and i have said before big part of the shambolic transfers over the past 4years has in the main been down to Moshiri and almost over egerness to build a better team. He has spent with the right intentions, lesson being you can't just throw big wages at players!! But it sounds luke we are a little more sencible. Rodrigeuz is reportedly taking about a 50% pay cut in order to come here. Straight away Rodriguez has my respect. Given he would have been available as a free transfer in 12 months time, i am sure he would have been able to get a sign on fee and better wage deal. I would guess by signing for us, Rodriquz is giving up around £4m to £5m a year for the next 3years!!! So maybe a sacrifice of at least £15m!! So he will have a vastly different attitude to a lot of big money signings made in the past. He is not going to be lacking passion and enthusiasum, he is definately come here with hunger and a point to prove. Just for taking a significant paycut Rodriques gets my respect however this transfer turns out. His agent must be puling his hair out!! I agree if true, but it is likely he will still be on a decent sign on fee now. Its not just free agents that get sign ons, they just usually get bigger ones because there is no transfer fee involved. I am very sure agents will be playing the card of "he only has one year left and could get a big sign on fee if he waited". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 42 minutes ago, Bailey said: I agree if true, but it is likely he will still be on a decent sign on fee now. Its not just free agents that get sign ons, they just usually get bigger ones because there is no transfer fee involved. I am very sure agents will be playing the card of "he only has one year left and could get a big sign on fee if he waited". From all I have read, I genuinely believe this transfer is more about Rodriguez wanting to leave Real, coming to playing under Ancelotti and getting on the pitch to play football, rather than him wanting to earn as much as he can out of the game on his last contract. In this day and age it feels like breath of fresh air a player coming here on a reduced rather than an inflated salary!!! I am going to enjoy the moment. I think he would be a fair amount wealthier just running is £11m a year Real contact down and being a free agent next summer. Maybe I am being naive, and we are being rinsed some other way, but ignorance is bliss as they say Bailey, Matt and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, RuffRob said: From all I have read, I genuinely believe this transfer is more about Rodriguez wanting to leave Real, coming to playing under Ancelotti and getting on the pitch to play football, rather than him wanting to earn as much as he can out of the game on his last contract. In this day and age it feels like breath of fresh air a player coming here on a reduced rather than an inflated salary!!! I am going to enjoy the moment. I think he would be a fair amount wealthier just running is £11m a year Real contact down and being a free agent next summer. Maybe I am being naive, and we are being rinsed some other way, but ignorance is bliss as they say Seems that way. Even for the cynical among us though his career income may be boosted long term by getting games in the Premier League vs. sitting on Real's bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 hours ago, SpartyBlue said: Seems that way. Even for the cynical among us though his career income may be boosted long term by getting games in the Premier League vs. sitting on Real's bench. he won't go hungry!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Romey 1878 Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 Myers has all the gossip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shukes Posted September 2, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Myers has all the gossip Well that’s fucked it then! He will try the seafood risotto and piss off to Juventus! plaidharper, Palfy, StevO and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Shukes said: Well that’s fucked it then! He will try the seafood risotto and piss off to Juventus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, Shukes said: Well that’s fucked it then! He will try the seafood risotto and piss off to Juventus! Should have sent him to Spoilt for Choice in Bootle for a bowl of scouse and a tiger roll. Hungry now. Shukes, Matt and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Rumours of issues around this deal now. It wouldn’t be an Everton transfer without scare stories and delays . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Wonder what the issue could be we, we want him, he wants to come and Real want to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 On 02/09/2020 at 19:46, Romey 1878 said: Myers has all the gossip James looks like a wax work, we sure that lad hasn't knicked him from the Columbian Madame Tusauds?! markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: Rumours of issues around this deal now. It wouldn’t be an Everton transfer without scare stories and delays . If transfers go at the same speed he should be a little behind Allan. The fact that Allan’s still not signed means there’s still a while to go. Maybe reception have borrowed the only pen in the building Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 If you’re excited by this transfer like me don’t listen to the short ‘All Together Now’ podcast with a German football magazine chief editor from Madrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 The bands back together! StevO, Shukes and barryj 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 15 hours ago, FairWooney said: James looks like a wax work, we sure that lad hasn't knicked him from the Columbian Madame Tusauds?! He's well hydrated and oiled Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, Hafnia said: He's well hydrated and oiled Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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