Matt Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: The world doesn't revolve around the Premier League, Enzo Fernandez says hi. No, but it's the usual benchmark and Branthwaite didn't have a world cup to showcase himself in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 On 12/02/2023 at 09:57, Hafnia said: No chance. His value won’t go up till he plays in the premier league. And to that point, he'd never score a goal like that in the Prem. It's a whole different level. It's not that different from valuing a player on loan in the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 There have been talk of big teams taking interest in Branthwaite ever since has has been here. He is simply a very promising prospect. He has gone to the Dutch league and is putting the the performances you would hope a lad of his talent would do whilst away on loan. As a young player you would have to say is being properly developed and he should be very happy with what Everton are doing for him At 19, he has had a good taste of first team premiership football with us already. He's be sent out on loan, not because he's not good enough for the first team, its purely for his benefit and development at a good quality European football club. He is getting amazing experience and excellent game time at a club that play football. If he keeps on improving at the rate he is, he will be in and around our first team squad next season. There will be a place for him as I feel at least two will be gone out of Mina, Keane and Holgate. His best option by far is going to be around Everton's first team over the next two or three years. If he does end up as a +£80M defender at a top 4 club (lets face it that seems to be the value of the very best CB's), then lets at least see that development happen while he is at Everton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 3 hours ago, Matt said: No, but it's the usual benchmark and Branthwaite didn't have a world cup to showcase himself in. Bruno Fernandes, Ruben Dias, Darwin Nunez and João Felix all left the Portuguese League for £50m+. To suggest that the Premier League solely dictates transfer fees/interest is just ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 5 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: The world doesn't revolve around the Premier League, Enzo Fernandez says hi. Enzo Fernandez wasn’t already signed to a premier league side and arguably was the second best player in a World Cup winning side, Branthwaite is already our player, his value will not be increased to its potential till he does it in the prem. The Dutch league isn’t a good indicator - klassen says hi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Bruno Fernandes, Ruben Dias, Darwin Nunez and João Felix all left the Portuguese League for £50m+. To suggest that the Premier League solely dictates transfer fees/interest is just ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Enzo Fernandez wasn’t already signed to a premier league side. Branthwaite is our player, his value will not be increased to its potential till he does it in the prem. The Dutch league isn’t a good indicator - klassen says hi No you're right, my bad. Let's just ignore Arjen Robben, Robin van Persie, Ruud van Nistlerooy, Jaap Stam, Park Ji-Sung to name but a few that left Dutch football for the Premier League. Not to mention the conveyor belt of talent that Ajax have exported to European football. Frenkie De Jong and De Ligt springing straight to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 12 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: No you're right, my bad. Let's just ignore Arjen Robben, Robin van Persie, Ruud van Nistlerooy, Jaap Stam, Park Ji-Sung to name but a few that left Dutch football for the Premier League. Not to mention the conveyor belt of talent that Ajax have exported to European football. Frenkie De Jong and De Ligt springing straight to mind. Kezman, Jansen, Depay, babbel, Altidore, Alves, van der meyde, blind, van der beak, bony, all sold for mega money….. all of them failed really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, Hafnia said: Kezman, Jansen, Depay, babbel, Altidore, Alves, van der meyde, blind, van der beak, bony, all sold for mega money….. all of them failed really. Yet the fact that I've named a load that worked shows that it's actually quite a good barometer of young footballing talent, backed up with the transfer fees for those mentioned - Daley Blind is/was a great player too, as is Memphis. The fact that we are debating Dutch football, the birthplace of Total Football and you trying to dismiss it as a throwaway league is truly baffling. The interest in talent from there will always be present, regardless of whether the exports have set foot in England. Football clubs from the likes of the Netherlands and Portugal need to sell high to simply survive and that won't change anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Jarrad walks straigh in our first eleven. I think he's better than Coady and probably on par with Tark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 DCL gets injured and we have a natural goalscorer out on loan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Bruno Fernandes, Ruben Dias, Darwin Nunez and João Felix all left the Portuguese League for £50m+. To suggest that the Premier League solely dictates transfer fees/interest is just ignorant. Where did I say sole? I said usual benchmark, I.e. usually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Err didn't all of those players come to the premier league though? Im not getting involved though…. Staying completely out of it! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 I’ve got no idea what he’s going on about. He reckons branthwaite will get sold without playing for us again. if he’s good enough for top teams to circle the club will play him in the prem which will increase his value. “Proven” premier league players get sold for more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 I hate you all. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 11 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Football clubs from the likes of the Netherlands and Portugal need to sell high to simply survive and that won't change anytime soon. Good job he’s an Everton player then. If someone wants to buy him it’ll have to costs a small fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 The Dutch league is just very different to the Premier League. Its very technical and power and pace arent as important as they are over here. Certain players will transfer those skills over here, some wont. It wasnt that long ago that the loan was being questioned as the lad wasn't playing that much and now he is being talked about as the next big thing. I can already tell this is going to be a bit like the Simms thread where players on loan at lesser clubs/leagues become better than those starting and when they do come in and don't perform they get written off again. Matt, StevO and dunlopp9987 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 To be fair to Branthwaite, I think he has always shown that he is one of the younger players that has a real chance. He has actually had some good cameos for us and always looked decent. Yes he had a few hiccups on the way, but he hasn’t ever looked out of place. StevO, Wiggytop, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 7 hours ago, Shukes said: To be fair to Branthwaite, I think he has always shown that he is one of the younger players that has a real chance. He has actually had some good cameos for us and always looked decent. Yes he had a few hiccups on the way, but he hasn’t ever looked out of place. Will always remember the game at Stamford Bridge last season. Was immense for us, scored the goal and showed the promise that I think we all know he has. Fosse Captain and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 Hopefully we send Coady back in the summer and tell this lad he's a first-teamer consistently next season. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/jarrad-branthwaite-lifts-lid-private-26454434 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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