Btay Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Bailey said: If its true. Given moshiri’s history and the way benetiz went after James I can believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 I know we were linked… Kulusevski not Chiesa before someone says!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 08/01/2022 at 15:19, Palfy said: I wasn’t just particularly referring to this one comment in general you have become boring with your comments about Benitez, constantly trying to dismiss anything that anyone says that may show Benitez in a favourable light not based on anything but dislike . I’m beginning to think you have morphed into Cornish Steve and lost complete sense of balance when it comes to Benitez, fuck me just realised what a scary thought that is Ah I see. Its ok to bash Digne with every other post but not Benitez? As and when Benitez does something I agree with, I will give him the relevant praise (as I have done in the past might I add). I am not even saying Benitez hasn't done anything wrong, in fact he may have done exactly the right thing. I don't know and you don't know. Whereas you are quick to rush to judgement, I will reserve mine until I have heard both sides of the story. Romey 1878, Matt and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 IN: Mykolenko, Patterson OUT: Digne (Fabrizio says its happening) LOAN IN: El Ghazi (Fabrizio says its happening) LOAN OUT: CONTRACT ENDS AFTER SEASON: Lonergan, Kenny, Coleman, Delph, Siggy, Tosun Squad for rest of season: GK: Pickford, Begovic, Lonergan DEF: Keane, Mina, Holgate, Godfrey, Mykolenko, Coleman, Patterson, Branthwaite, Kenny MID: Allan, Doucoure, Gomes, Davies, Gbamin, Delph FWD: DCL, Richarlison, Gray, Townsend, Gordon, Iwobi, Rondon, Tosun, El Ghazi Sibdane and dunlopp9987 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 We need a modern-day Vincent Kompany to take charge of the defence, someone who's tough and will stand up to the manager's nonsense. We did/do not need El Ghazi. Move out Gomes, Delph, and Iwobi, and bring in a Gallagher type to sit alongside Doucoure and Allan. Rely more on our talented youngsters. I have no problem with Mykolenko or Patterson. If we don't remove Benitez now, we're going to lose Pickford, Richarlison, and DC-L in the summer. c1982 and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 15, 2022 Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 We’ve been begging out for a leader at the back for a few years now. We are so light weight at the back, not just physically, but mentally as well. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevO Posted January 15, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just hope the new manager has a bit of the window left and a few quid to spend. Id rather he still had a left back that went a few days ago though. Matt, MC11, Bailey and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 I'd be surprised if we bring anyone else in during this window now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 13 hours ago, StevO said: Just hope the new manager has a bit of the window left and a few quid to spend. Id rather he still had a left back that went a few days ago though. No one who comes in now should be given money to spend that’s been our downfall, bar Benitez giving them money to spend straight away before we can see what they can do has been a fucking nightmare, our squad is akin to the French foreign legion full of misfits, no more please until we feel secure in the knowledge that next manager is actually doing a decent job. Shukes and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 It would be a massive mistake to not get a midfield re-inforcement before the close of the window. There is also no point getting a manager in if they arent going to be backed. I dont think they should have an open cheque book but if a player they want is available and at a reasonable price then why shouldn't they be brought in? Chach and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 45 minutes ago, Palfy said: No one who comes in now should be given money to spend that’s been our downfall, bar Benitez giving them money to spend straight away before we can see what they can do has been a fucking nightmare, our squad is akin to the French foreign legion full of misfits, no more please until we feel secure in the knowledge that next manager is actually doing a decent job. I just think if we have a manager come in who has a player in mind who can make a real difference I’d like them to be able to. If that was to be a central midfielder or defender it could be huge for us. Wishful thinking though. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Let’s take Potter and get him to bring Bissouma with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Shukes said: Let’s take Potter and get him to bring Bissouma with him. I guess it's afternoon now but going straight for the top shelf booze is not the answer mate plaidharper, London Blue, duncanmckenzieismagic and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 If Rafa gets the boot we will have to stump up the cash to pay him off so I can’t see us signing anyone else this window unless we sell one of DCL, Richarlison, Mina or Pickford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Been thinking a lot about this and wanted to get something down on paper. Transfer success is subjective so I'm sure (and rightly so) folks will debate the lists below but hopefully it's good enough for context. The point I've been thinking about is who we should be recruiting and I've always always always felt buying up (player who has not yet played a club the size/prestige as Everton) is better than buying down (player who's coming down from a bigger club). Worst transfers in the last decade: Eto'o-Chelsea Tarashaj-Grasshoppers Niasse-LokomotivMoscow Williams-Swansea Schneiderlin-ManU Bolasie-Palace Cenk-Besiktas Walcott-Arsenal Klaassen-Ajax Siggy-Swansea/Spurs Gbamin-Mainz Iwobi-Arsenal Best transfers in the last decade: Jelavic-Rangers Mirallas-Olympiakos Stones-Barnsley Rom-Chelsea Barry-City DCL-SheffU Gana-Villa Pickford-Sunderland Richarlison-Watford Digne-Barca Doucoure-Watford Gray-Leverkusen There are exceptions to the rule on both sides but I still think this shows who we should and shouldn't be buying. Cast-offs from the big boys aren't good enough for our level either and poaching 'smaller' clubs top young talent has served us well. Watford arguably the only reason we haven't been relegated yet, while Arsenal and Swansea have done their best to get us sent down. We've also had very little success with players from abroad relative to what we've invested. P.S. Don't get me wrong I was mesmerized by the idea James would sign/play for us and I'll always remember his impact but I wasn't supporting it from a strategic perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 It is a goddamn miracle we're still standing after these two windows: ARRIVALS 17/18 Players Club Transfer sum Gylfi Sigurdsson Swansea $54.34m Michael Keane Burnley $31.35m Jordan Pickford Sunderland $31.35m Davy Klaassen Ajax $29.70m Theo Walcott Arsenal $24.75m Cenk Tosun Besiktas $24.75m Nikola Vlasic Hajduk Split $11.88m Henry Onyekuru KAS Eupen $8.80m Sandro Ramírez Málaga CF $6.60m Cuco Martina Southampton free transfer Wayne Rooney Man Utd free transfer Eliaquim Mangala Man City loan transfer ARRIVALS 19/20 Players Club Transfer sum Alex Iwobi Arsenal $33.44m Moise Kean Juventus $30.25m André Gomes Barcelona $27.50m Jean-Philippe Gbamin 1.FSV Mainz 05 $27.50m Fabian Delph Man City $10.45m Djibril Sidibé Monaco Loan fee:$2.75m Jarrad Branthwaite Carlisle United $1.21m Jonas Lössl Huddersfield free transfer Elston Gunnn and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 54 minutes ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: It is a goddamn miracle we're still standing after these two windows: ARRIVALS 17/18 Players Club Transfer sum Gylfi Sigurdsson Swansea $54.34m Michael Keane Burnley $31.35m Jordan Pickford Sunderland $31.35m Davy Klaassen Ajax $29.70m Theo Walcott Arsenal $24.75m Cenk Tosun Besiktas $24.75m Nikola Vlasic Hajduk Split $11.88m Henry Onyekuru KAS Eupen $8.80m Sandro Ramírez Málaga CF $6.60m Cuco Martina Southampton free transfer Wayne Rooney Man Utd free transfer Eliaquim Mangala Man City loan transfer ARRIVALS 19/20 Players Club Transfer sum Alex Iwobi Arsenal $33.44m Moise Kean Juventus $30.25m André Gomes Barcelona $27.50m Jean-Philippe Gbamin 1.FSV Mainz 05 $27.50m Fabian Delph Man City $10.45m Djibril Sidibé Monaco Loan fee:$2.75m Jarrad Branthwaite Carlisle United $1.21m Jonas Lössl Huddersfield free transfer These two windows will haunt me for the rest of my days, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnderToff Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 16/17 Was as bad as 19/20. 66m euros on Bolasie, Schneiderlin, and Ashley Williams. Only rescued by the wins from Lookman, Gueye, and DCL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 So with no manager and no DOF, I guess the squad we have is the one we have for the rest of the season. Would have liked a few more additions but not if it means Moshiri making the decisions! AlbanyNYToffee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisk Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 May as well close down this thread.....our business is done for this window I would think. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Cisk said: May as well close down this thread.....our business is done for this window I would think. Bloody hell, you leave the bar at 9pm too? It’s only early mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Hoof_It_Nev said: So with no manager and no DOF, I guess the squad we have is the one we have for the rest of the season. Would have liked a few more additions but not if it means Moshiri making the decisions! How's that different from the last several years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisk Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, StevO said: Bloody hell, you leave the bar at 9pm too? It’s only early mate. Just realistic....who's left to pick a player to sign or sell? Rhino? New manager will not be in place come end of window and no caretaker will be given this power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, Cisk said: Just realistic....who's left to pick a player to sign or sell? Rhino? New manager will not be in place come end of window and no caretaker will be given this power A new manager could be in place in the next few days, we’ve 12 days left of the window. Get back to the bar, last orders isn’t for another few hours yet. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 12 hours ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: Been thinking a lot about this and wanted to get something down on paper. Transfer success is subjective so I'm sure (and rightly so) folks will debate the lists below but hopefully it's good enough for context. The point I've been thinking about is who we should be recruiting and I've always always always felt buying up (player who has not yet played a club the size/prestige as Everton) is better than buying down (player who's coming down from a bigger club). Worst transfers in the last decade: Eto'o-Chelsea Tarashaj-Grasshoppers Niasse-LokomotivMoscow Williams-Swansea Schneiderlin-ManU Bolasie-Palace Cenk-Besiktas Walcott-Arsenal Klaassen-Ajax Siggy-Swansea/Spurs Gbamin-Mainz Iwobi-Arsenal Best transfers in the last decade: Jelavic-Rangers Mirallas-Olympiakos Stones-Barnsley Rom-Chelsea Barry-City DCL-SheffU Gana-Villa Pickford-Sunderland Richarlison-Watford Digne-Barca Doucoure-Watford Gray-Leverkusen There are exceptions to the rule on both sides but I still think this shows who we should and shouldn't be buying. Cast-offs from the big boys aren't good enough for our level either and poaching 'smaller' clubs top young talent has served us well. Watford arguably the only reason we haven't been relegated yet, while Arsenal and Swansea have done their best to get us sent down. We've also had very little success with players from abroad relative to what we've invested. P.S. Don't get me wrong I was mesmerized by the idea James would sign/play for us and I'll always remember his impact but I wasn't supporting it from a strategic perspective. I think if anything with this post, you have proven that you shouldn't stick to a given policy because there are players out there at different stages of their career who have done a brilliant job for this club. There are as many unknowns coming through as there are big club footballers that have a point to prove. I also think you are being a bit generous with some of those best signings. Jelavic wasn't, nor Mirallas and then Dom and Stones were bought for the academy. Allan has been a good signing but he was in the other category. Iwobi for all that he was at Arsenal was still on the way up as a footballer and had his best season for them before joining us. He wasn't a cast off. The difference is the price you pay... big club players cost more and are therefore more expensive when they don't work out but then again we put Gylfi, Williams, and Bolasie on stupid money. I think one of the best examples I can give is the left hand side of our team under Moyes. Baines, coming through the ranks at Wigan bought for £6.5m. Pienaar, played for Ajax and Borussia Dortmund, bought for £2.48m. Good players come from many different places and I don't think you can just rely on one strategy to build a successful team. MC11, StevO and AlbanyNYToffee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Moshiri buys who he wants anyway, he'll prob get a couple more in with no manager! Wall Writer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Agree Barry was one of our best signings and arguably he was 'on his way down' after having been at City. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 We’ll already have a list of targets that the board have discussed. If we still want them, we go try to get them. I doubt Rafa made any decisions on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Shukes said: We’ll already have a list of targets that the board have discussed. If we still want them, we go try to get them. I doubt Rafa made any decisions on his own. The board can discuss what they like, Moshiri will have his own plans in motion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Matt said: The board can discuss what they like, Moshiri will have his own plans in motion That’s what I really meant to be honest. Rest of the board are just nodders to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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