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On 17/07/2021 at 17:10, Palfy said:

Sorry to hear about your bad news mate hope you all get through unscathed. But you’re right it’s definitely on the increase and at a time when we are looking at lifting restrictions, 3 days to Armageddon if the government doesn’t do a U turn and accept scientific advice and review the risks. 

I’m with you mate. Not looking forward to these restrictions ending at all. I’ll be more scared next week than I was a few months back. Too many idiots. 
 

I was talking to a friend earlier, last week he was in the staff room at work and one of his colleagues came and stood right next to him at the kettle. She wasn’t wearing a mask, standing close. An hour later he gets a call from his boss that this woman, after making a coffee, went and had a test in her office and was negative. She forgot to take her test before work, so had gone round asking if anyone had spares. Lots of people in his office had to isolate and luckily she hadn’t passed it on. 
 

We had an incident in my work last week too. One lad had been to Tenerife, comes into work the next day, then goes for his mandatory test the day after. Positive. Been in close contact with at least ten other people on that one day in between. 

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On 17/07/2021 at 05:53, Hafnia said:

Covid has hit our house.  My eldest son tested positive and we will all likely have it, pretty much guaranteed.

Pretty much his whole class has it. Well done Boris, letting the delta variant in and removing restrictions.  The whole country will be self isolating soon you absolute prick. 

My advice to anyone is be safe, based on what I know it's really kicked off again and I expect numbers to go sky high unfortunately. Don't wait to be told to moderate your behaviour get ahead of the curve. 

Sorry to hear this.

The advice my children gave me (they're equivalent to doctors in Britain) when my wife and I had the virus last year is (1) take daily aspirin since blood clots are an occasional problem, and (2) buy and use a pulse oximeter to check blood oxygen level. If that level drops below 90, get yourself checked out.

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1 hour ago, StevO said:

I’m with you mate. Not looking forward to these restrictions ending at all. I’ll be more scared next week than I was a few months back. Too many idiots. 
 

I was talking to a friend earlier, last week he was in the staff room at work and one of his colleagues came and stood right next to him at the kettle. She wasn’t wearing a mask, standing close. An hour later he gets a call from his boss that this woman, after making a coffee, went and had a test in her office and was negative. She forgot to take her test before work, so had gone round asking if anyone had spares. Lots of people in his office had to isolate and luckily she hadn’t passed it on. 
 

We had an incident in my work last week too. One lad had been to Tenerife, comes into work the next day, then goes for his mandatory test the day after. Positive. Been in close contact with at least ten other people on that one day in between. 

This is the problem that those in charge don't seem to understand. 

Too many people are fucking idiots. As sad as it is you can't trust people to make their own decisions because there will be enough idiots who cause problems. You only have to look at the fall out from the football. You only have to look at the bellend in charge of the country who tries to change the rules when it suits him. 

Too many people just don't get it. Quite honestly in scares me. Not just covid but with life generally. 

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1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said:

Sorry to hear this.

The advice my children gave me (they're equivalent to doctors in Britain) when my wife and I had the virus last year is (1) take daily aspirin since blood clots are an occasional problem, and (2) buy and use a pulse oximeter to check blood oxygen level. If that level drops below 90, get yourself checked out.

 And my non-medical advise, but I trully believe it's a game changer. Those who are unaware, please check out Wim Hof method. Cheers.

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1 hour ago, Bailey said:

This is the problem that those in charge don't seem to understand. 

Too many people are fucking idiots. As sad as it is you can't trust people to make their own decisions because there will be enough idiots who cause problems. You only have to look at the fall out from the football. You only have to look at the bellend in charge of the country who tries to change the rules when it suits him. 

Too many people just don't get it. Quite honestly in scares me. Not just covid but with life generally. 

I think it’s got to the stage over the last couple of weeks that the horse has already bolted, with large crowds at big horse racing meetings, tennis for a few weeks, the Open golf over 4 days and the British Grand Prix over 3 days. That’s probably well over a million people attending these events in unshielded close proximity spreading Covid like wild fire. 

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On 18/07/2021 at 22:08, Bailey said:

This is the problem that those in charge don't seem to understand. 

Too many people are fucking idiots. As sad as it is you can't trust people to make their own decisions because there will be enough idiots who cause problems. You only have to look at the fall out from the football. You only have to look at the bellend in charge of the country who tries to change the rules when it suits him. 

Too many people just don't get it. Quite honestly in scares me. Not just covid but with life generally. 

Too many selfish idiots who somehow get defended using the guise of "freedom of speech". When that freedom risks lives, let alone costs them, then things need to become law rather than choice because otherwise exactly what is happening with the numbers now, happens every time. 

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It was odd to me last week when I was visiting Panama, we got an update saying Panama had been moved from Level 3 Advisory (risky) to Level 4 - Do Not Travel by the US CDC/State Department, due to increase crime and Covid cases.

I'm reading about murders every day back home in Alabama, we have no mask restrictions in public anymore, and almost twice the deaths of Panama with a similar population, and a similar vax %.  And I'm in Panama, where the entire country still has a 10pm curfew, everyone wears a mask outside their home, I had my temp checked every door I entered probably 70 times in a week....and I'm told it's too dangerous to be here?? It's safer in Alabama healthwise. Safe to travel to Chicago? What unelected public official makes the decisions? 

I'm just stunned that well over a year into this, those in charge are still so inconsistent and haven't seemed to learn shit. There is just too much political capital and money in this whole pandemic. Both sides of the isle are playing games with lives and money and I don't trust any of them. I got my vax, I wear a mask where I supposed to or personally choose to, but I swear this is going to be the biggest power/money grab of all time. That's not to say I think it's a hoax or anything crazy like that, but dammit man. 

 

Sorry, rant over, I'll mumble under my mask.

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3 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

do you have the vaccine both doeses?  with one if you do?

I do.  I had the astra zeneca / Oxford one. Had my second dose over a month ago 

At this moment I feel ok.  An hour or so ago I felt awful. 

I have no expectations that I'm over it.  It's a notoriously strange virus. 

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16 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

I do.  I had the astra zeneca / Oxford one. Had my second dose over a month ago 

At this moment I feel ok.  An hour or so ago I felt awful. 

I have no expectations that I'm over it.  It's a notoriously strange virus. 

Keep well dude, thinking of you and family. 

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1 hour ago, Hafnia said:

I do.  I had the astra zeneca / Oxford one. Had my second dose over a month ago 

At this moment I feel ok.  An hour or so ago I felt awful. 

I have no expectations that I'm over it.  It's a notoriously strange virus. 

Thanks good to know.  My colleague had it, she had the moderna (I have that as well).  Always curious to see what people’s experiences are.

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1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said:

How do we overcome this problem? It's why vaccination rates in many parts of the US remain comparatively low.

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Unfortunately there is no cure for stupid. 
I love that country but my god, surveys like that show how so many idiots live there. 
 

No offence to our American members, I would hope you fall into the less crazy categories. 

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14 minutes ago, StevO said:

Unfortunately there is no cure for stupid. 
I love that country but my god, surveys like that show how so many idiots live there. 
 

No offence to our American members, I would hope you fall into the less crazy categories. 

Yeah, these people worried about being tracked by the government must have forgotten about phones, driver's licenses, computers, etc.

I'm guessing these people also live in very rural areas or Florida. 

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11 minutes ago, Sibdane said:

Yeah, these people worried about being tracked by the government must have forgotten about phones, driver's licenses, computers, etc.

I'm guessing these people also live in very rural areas or Florida. 

I have quite a bit of red neck family in Florida. Republicans the lot of them, apart from one actually who turned after a couple of years of Trump, but thankfully none of them believe these mad conspiracy theories and they all got the vaccine ASAP. 
Plenty of tears on January 6th too, sensitive republicans my lot. 😂

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There will always be the lunatic fringe (on both side) and those that will always believe the moon landing, 9-11 and the JFK assassination was a CIA job - or some shadowy organization straight from The Black List.

Also, it appears this survey was at least partially constructed to reach a desired conclusion. By having a subset of "Those who will NOT be vaccinated" they have ensured they have captured people that may have legitimate concerns about the vax, but they have also captured ALL the conspiracy nut jobs - and then asked them if they believe in conspiracies haha.

 

To @Cornish Steve's question to "how you fix", I think the short answer is you don't. Way to close to 50% of people don't believe anything the current administration says. Of the other 50%, way too many of them didn't believe anything the last administration said. That's a problem. Luckily we have the news media, so you can pick your narrative, and then go the news outlet that supports it. Handy that.

I'm not sure what has caused the explosion in autism, but it's pretty horrific. Could it be vaccines we have taken for years? Yeah, I think that could be the culprit. I'm in logistics tho, so that's way out of my field, so who knows.

Do I think Covid-19 was exaggerated? Big picture, no. Has it been selectively used for political purposes, finance and sketchy policy based on dubious numbers? Absolutely. "Don't waste a good crisis"

Do I think it's being used to micro-chip? Hahaha no! I think there are those would love to do such a thing, but to @Sibdane's point, the NSA, cellphones, big-tech and electronic banking/cards...I am already tracked six ways to Sunday, so is it really needed?

 

I don't trust big money/big government to tell me what's best for my health, life and how I should think, because they are self-serving.  I am not sure the Covid vaccines are as needed or effective as advertised. But I think the positives outweigh the negatives (real or perceived) and have things that affect my life a lot more than a damn shot. So I'm fully vaccinated, and am worried about more important things.

Like bringing in a RB that can start day 1.

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3 minutes ago, Matt said:

Fuck me this has hit me like a tonne of bricks. Apologies in advance for any snippy and sarcier that usual posts. 

Here's a pre emptive fuck off Matt just in advance.

 

Hope it settles, plenty of water and appropriate painkillers. 

 

Today my taste and smell has gone.  Wife is currently laid low with it.

A special fuck you goes out to all the sceptic bellends who think it's nothing.  Absolute twats the lot of you. 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Today my taste and smell has gone. 

Some weird stuff that isn't it? Nothing to do with Covid but been living with that to some extent for years, my taste is now pretty good but smell is almost totally gone due to no air flow through my nose. Have an abatoir just on the edge of my village that puts out a horrendous stink on a regular basis if the wind's in a certain direction, so at times I'm grateful!

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My daughter is on the way to hospital with my wife right now, ambulance left about ten minutes ago (only one parent allowed in the hospital), this wasn’t an emergency situation. We called 111 and they suggested sending an ambulance and it would be a couple of hours. Breathing too fast, heart rate too high, coughing and very snotty. She will have a test when she gets there, concerned at the moment and nothing I can do about it. Me and her Mum have both had negative tests today.
It’s her first birthday next week, hopefully she’s ok by then. She’s got quite a few cousins of a similar age and they all haven’t met each other yet so planned a little party. 
Also just found out one of those cousins has caught it, only 16 months old. He’s only got a runny nose though, hardly affecting him at all. 

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1 minute ago, StevO said:

My daughter is on the way to hospital with my wife right now, ambulance left about ten minutes ago (only one parent allowed in the hospital), this wasn’t an emergency situation. We called 111 and they suggested sending an ambulance and it would be a couple of hours. Breathing too fast, heart rate too high, coughing and very snotty. She will have a test when she gets there, concerned at the moment and nothing I can do about it. Me and her Mum have both had negative tests today.
It’s her first birthday next week, hopefully she’s ok by then. She’s got quite a few cousins of a similar age and they all haven’t met each other yet so planned a little party. 
Also just found out one of those cousins has caught it, only 16 months old. He’s only got a runny nose though, hardly affecting him at all. 

Be thinking of you mate, hope all is well.

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3 minutes ago, StevO said:

My daughter is on the way to hospital with my wife right now, ambulance left about ten minutes ago (only one parent allowed in the hospital), this wasn’t an emergency situation. We called 111 and they suggested sending an ambulance and it would be a couple of hours. Breathing too fast, heart rate too high, coughing and very snotty. She will have a test when she gets there, concerned at the moment and nothing I can do about it. Me and her Mum have both had negative tests today.
It’s her first birthday next week, hopefully she’s ok by then. She’s got quite a few cousins of a similar age and they all haven’t met each other yet so planned a little party. 
Also just found out one of those cousins has caught it, only 16 months old. He’s only got a runny nose though, hardly affecting him at all. 

Sorry to hear that, Steve, hopefully they get it under control as quickly as possible. 

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54 minutes ago, StevO said:

Thanks lads, I’m sure all will be fine soon enough. Just got to wait for them to give her a bunch of tests, she’s got her Mum with her so she’ll be fine. Really hope it’s not Covid though. 

Hang in there brother, sending good thoughts

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2 hours ago, StevO said:

My daughter is on the way to hospital with my wife right now, ambulance left about ten minutes ago (only one parent allowed in the hospital), this wasn’t an emergency situation. We called 111 and they suggested sending an ambulance and it would be a couple of hours. Breathing too fast, heart rate too high, coughing and very snotty. She will have a test when she gets there, concerned at the moment and nothing I can do about it. Me and her Mum have both had negative tests today.
It’s her first birthday next week, hopefully she’s ok by then. She’s got quite a few cousins of a similar age and they all haven’t met each other yet so planned a little party. 
Also just found out one of those cousins has caught it, only 16 months old. He’s only got a runny nose though, hardly affecting him at all. 

Good luck mate. Thinking of you.

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3 hours ago, Matt said:

Fuck me this has hit me like a tonne of bricks. Apologies in advance for any snippy and sarcier that usual posts. 

I don't think anyone would notice 😉

Hopefully you perk up soon. It is really strange to see how so many people react differently to each jab. 

 

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2 hours ago, StevO said:

My daughter is on the way to hospital with my wife right now, ambulance left about ten minutes ago (only one parent allowed in the hospital), this wasn’t an emergency situation. We called 111 and they suggested sending an ambulance and it would be a couple of hours. Breathing too fast, heart rate too high, coughing and very snotty. She will have a test when she gets there, concerned at the moment and nothing I can do about it. Me and her Mum have both had negative tests today.
It’s her first birthday next week, hopefully she’s ok by then. She’s got quite a few cousins of a similar age and they all haven’t met each other yet so planned a little party. 
Also just found out one of those cousins has caught it, only 16 months old. He’s only got a runny nose though, hardly affecting him at all. 

Sorry to hear that mate, I hope she is back on her feet ASAP. 

Strangely had a family friend with a 16yo daughter who went into hospital with similar thing. She spent the night because they weren't happy with her bloods. Next day she perked up and was discharged and was completely fine by the evening. 

She tested negative all the time she was there but three days later she did test positive. Someone in her dance group also tested positive the day she went in. No idea if it was covid or whether she caught it while in hospital but it is all very scary. People seem to experience many different things and I think that makes it more worrying.

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3 hours ago, StevO said:

My daughter is on the way to hospital with my wife right now, ambulance left about ten minutes ago (only one parent allowed in the hospital), this wasn’t an emergency situation. We called 111 and they suggested sending an ambulance and it would be a couple of hours. Breathing too fast, heart rate too high, coughing and very snotty. She will have a test when she gets there, concerned at the moment and nothing I can do about it. Me and her Mum have both had negative tests today.
It’s her first birthday next week, hopefully she’s ok by then. She’s got quite a few cousins of a similar age and they all haven’t met each other yet so planned a little party. 
Also just found out one of those cousins has caught it, only 16 months old. He’s only got a runny nose though, hardly affecting him at all. 

Sorry to hear your sad news mate hope all goes really well, very worrying when it’s your kids and they are so young, everything crossed 🤞 for you and the family.  

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4 hours ago, StevO said:

My daughter is on the way to hospital with my wife right now, ambulance left about ten minutes ago (only one parent allowed in the hospital), this wasn’t an emergency situation. We called 111 and they suggested sending an ambulance and it would be a couple of hours. Breathing too fast, heart rate too high, coughing and very snotty. She will have a test when she gets there, concerned at the moment and nothing I can do about it. Me and her Mum have both had negative tests today.
It’s her first birthday next week, hopefully she’s ok by then. She’s got quite a few cousins of a similar age and they all haven’t met each other yet so planned a little party. 
Also just found out one of those cousins has caught it, only 16 months old. He’s only got a runny nose though, hardly affecting him at all. 

Oh mate. Thoughts with you. Hope all is ok   my wife is children's nurse and said there is lots of bronchialitus and winter bugs going round.

Hope your daughter is ok Steve. 

 

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1 minute ago, Hafnia said:

Oh mate. Thoughts with you. Hope all is ok   my wife is children's nurse and said there is lots of bronchialitus and winter bugs going round.

Hope your daughter is ok Steve. 

 

There was four other babies in the hospital with the same thing tonight. Doctors said it’s bad at the moment. 

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3 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Bronchiolitis? 

They haven’t confirmed that, but all the same symptoms. My niece had that two years ago when she was about nine months old, ended up spending three weeks in Whiston on a ventilator. Heart breaking! She’s been fine since though. 

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5 hours ago, StevO said:

Thanks everyone. 
Just got her home now. Not Covid thankfully, viral infection, not coping so well with the heat. She’s been monitored for a while and sent home with three doctors agreement. She currently flat out asleep on my belly, wife flat out next to me on the couch. 
She has an inhaler to help for the next few weeks if she struggles breathing. 
 

Thanks again everyone. If I’m cranky tomorrow (more than usual) it’s because I’ll probably not sleep tonight. 

I’m really pleased it has turned out so well a massive relief for you all I’m sure    And thanks for the warning I’ll try and avoid you for the next day 😂

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8 hours ago, Hafnia said:

Oh mate. Thoughts with you. Hope all is ok   my wife is children's nurse and said there is lots of bronchialitus and winter bugs going round.

Hope your daughter is ok Steve. 

 

BBC reporting winter bugs all over the place at the moment.

Glad to hear it's nothing more serious, @StevO

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I now know two people who have been fully vaccinated since March/April who have recently tested positive. Both of them are fine, feeling slightly out of it, but it goes to show that the Delta variant is no joke.

I've been vaccinated since April, but I think I'm going to go back to wearing my mask anytime I'm indoors.

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26 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said:

I now know two people who have been fully vaccinated since March/April who have recently tested positive. Both of them are fine, feeling slightly out of it, but it goes to show that the Delta variant is no joke.

I've been vaccinated since April, but I think I'm going to go back to wearing my mask anytime I'm indoors.

Same -- I started wearing my mask again. 

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48 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said:

I now know two people who have been fully vaccinated since March/April who have recently tested positive. Both of them are fine, feeling slightly out of it, but it goes to show that the Delta variant is no joke.

I've been vaccinated since April, but I think I'm going to go back to wearing my mask anytime I'm indoors.

One in every 75 people now have it over here (in England, Wales and NI are much better, Scotland about the same); but pleased to report that, even though I'm in a low risk part of the country, it's rare to see anyone without a mask. I have a test tomorrow ahead of a hospital appt on Monday but sure it'll be clear.

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16 minutes ago, MikeO said:

One in every 75 people now have it over here (in England, Wales and NI are much better, Scotland about the same); but please to report that, even though I'm in a low risk part of the country, it's rare to see anyone without a mask. I have a test tomorrow ahead of a hospital appt on Monday but sure it'll be clear.

So in 2 weeks it will be one in 38 then one in 16. .......

Oh well ..... The government were warned. 

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34 minutes ago, StevO said:

Last week it was one in 100, so hopefully it’s going the right way but we’ll see. 

One in a hundred to one in seventy-five is going the wrong way Ste mate, sleep deprivation playing with you?

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3 hours ago, Palfy said:

Latest figures released say cases  have dropped for the 4th day in a row, seriously don’t know what to believe anymore. 

Some of the scientists I follow are expecting the cases to drop a little before picking back up again. 

They seem to think that the increase was due to the football. When that finished, cases will slow a little before picking back up again as a result of the unlocking and what will likely be superspreading events like nightclubs etc.

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2 minutes ago, Bailey said:

Some of the scientists I follow are expecting the cases to drop a little before picking back up again. 

They seem to think that the increase was due to the football. When that finished, cases will slow a little before picking back up again as a result of the unlocking and what will likely be superspreading events like nightclubs etc.

We have had quite a few large sporting events quite recently as you said the football also Wimbledon Horse racing and F1 and the the freedom March last weekend on the political front.  

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12 hours ago, Bailey said:

Some of the scientists I follow are expecting the cases to drop a little before picking back up again. 

They seem to think that the increase was due to the football. When that finished, cases will slow a little before picking back up again as a result of the unlocking and what will likely be superspreading events like nightclubs etc.

It did last time too, dip I mean. In the long run of wave 3 (12months+ I reckon) it'll be a blip. 

I'm not against the country opening up despite all my rantings. I'm against opening up and letting this population decide what is best for it when the population has proven so many times it cannot be trusted to do whats best for itself. So things like passports, enforcing masks on public transport and indoors etc are essential because otherwise you get selfish pricks and conspiracy theorists who will, and already are, endangering others. 

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11 hours ago, Bailey said:

"Cower from"

I find some (most) of the language used by this Government completely inappropriate. 

 

He's an absolute prick 

Yesterday there was a freedom rally and an ex nurse was talking about hanging drs and nurses.  Loads of people online reporting it as hate speech so hopefully she gets arrested and felt with.  Vile. 

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