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He looked very calm and relaxed. Just easy simple passes and made them look easy. The other lad looked nervous and tried to hard, which caused a few mistakes.

This lad has that quiet unassuming promise, that can end up being a real player.

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Not sure he is going to be a star but I hope so now is his time to get some game time pre season while Digne is injured I've seen him a couple of times and was a bit disappointed 

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1 hour ago, patto said:

Not sure he is going to be a star but I hope so now is his time to get some game time pre season while Digne is injured I've seen him a couple of times and was a bit disappointed 

I don't think he will be a full back, if he is he will be very, very attacking, more like a wing back. I think he will end up a winger, pace, can beat a man and loves to get forward.

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Looks like we'll be missing out on him - The Athletic are reporting this

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Everton defender Thierry Small skips training amid exit attempts
Everton defender Thierry Small has been absent for the first week of pre-season training as he attempts to engineer a move away, according to The Athletic.

The left-back did not return for their July 5 return to training and was still absent on Monday, July 13.

The 16-year-old has been given a locker in the first-team changing room at Finch Farm and the Blues have prepared a “bumper” professional contract for him.
However, Small doesn’t feel that he has a chance of breaking into the Blues side with Lucas Digne firmly entrenched as the number one option, while Niels Nkounkou is also higher than him in the pecking order.

The Athletic claims Small recently cut ties with his agent and found a new representative, while the Blues still retain a desire to keep him on Merseyside and were in contact with the teenager on Monday.
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It appears that Small has set his stall out early and is determined to leave Everton this summer.

The fact that he has missed more than a week of training at such a crucial stage of pre-season is a bad look and it spells out bad news for any hopes harboured that he might sign a new deal still.

It’s a rather peculiar one given his youthful years.

There are not many, if any, 16-year-old’s up and down the country who will be demanding game time for a top-10 Premier League side, but Small obviously backs his abilities and wants to gain experience in senior football as soon as possible.

Small made his Everton debut against Sheffield Wednesday during an FA Cup clash in January, becoming the club’s youngest ever player in the process, but that could well end up being his sole appearance as a Blues player.

 

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2 hours ago, Matt said:

Because he's confident? :huh:

Oh yeah.... That thing called confidence.    Except he's not confident of getting a shout at left back so he's looking to go somewhere else where he will likely have a smaller chance 

Hes jibbed his agent so clearly wants £££.  I'm pretty sure we've given this lad a very good indication that we see him as the future - youngest ever player. 

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Maybe the lad just feels he has more of a chance elsewhere?

I doubt there is going to be too much of a difference in money that we can offer him compared to the other sides named.

If he does move and it works out then fair play to him, if it doesn't then he is another that will probably end up regretting his decision.

 

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4 hours ago, Hafnia said:

Oh yeah.... That thing called confidence.    Except he's not confident of getting a shout at left back so he's looking to go somewhere else where he will likely have a smaller chance 

Hes jibbed his agent so clearly wants £££.  I'm pretty sure we've given this lad a very good indication that we see him as the future - youngest ever player. 

 

4 hours ago, Hafnia said:

16..... FFS who exactly is advising him? 

You wrote my response for me :lol:

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5 hours ago, Hafnia said:

16..... FFS who exactly is advising him? 

Yeah I can’t get my head around it at all, he is holding all the cards here and will be free to sign for whoever he wants in a couple of weeks when he turns 17, he isn’t a blue so if he doesn’t want to sign for us fair enough but to be a total wanker about it and effectively go on strike is ridiculous 

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On 25/01/2021 at 16:39, pete0 said:

Couldn't figure out his accent so just had a little Google, Solihull. Notable that his uncle was a footballer, Bryan Small Aston Villa 1991-3 and then bounced round the leagues. 

 

Just noticed this - Bryan Small is a lovely bloke. He’s a primary age youth coach for Villa - used to come to my school a few years ago to train the kids. I wasn’t aware of the relation.

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I really can't get my head around this lad. Somehow the club has really pi55ed him (or his agent or parents) off. The behaviour of not turning up to training at 16 doesn't put the lad in a good light at all.  Not very professional at all, even if he plans to sign for somebody else as soon as he can. Getting some poor guidance. 

Can't believe this 'first team' football bullshit, as at that age he's not going to be starting in any Premiership team let alone Man U, Arsenal or Chelsea. Must also be something else to this. 

 

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Shame, but not surprised. If you had no loyalty to Everton why the fuck would you stick around, especially with the Manchester clubs, Bayern and the rest of Europe's elite all wanting to give out a contract.

I don't know, or care about the ins and outs of his decision or behaviour but not an outcome I'm particularly surprised by.

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1 hour ago, c1982 said:

Small is no longer an Everton player and we’ll get compensation… when reading about this I came across this young lad:

He left our academy in 2020.

I wonder why he left it’s strange. 

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27 minutes ago, patto said:

I wonder why he left it’s strange. 

I realise now I’ve seen this before this lad is playing 1st team football in France he wasn’t sure he could progress here hence he went back to France he was at PSG early years but his family moved around a lot and came to England when he was 12 from there he joined Everton.

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5 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

wanted to ask on this, i realize you were going for a pun there but do we get a pittance from this or if United get him and sell him for big bucks do we get a decent wedge?

No, it's one time compensation and that's all. He's literally a free agent, so nothing to do with us anymore.

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10 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

wanted to ask on this, i realize you were going for a pun there but do we get a pittance from this or if United get him and sell him for big bucks do we get a decent wedge?

We'll first try negotiating compensation with the club he signs for, and if we can't agree a fee then it'll go to a compensation panel.

We could end up with a decent fee through that or we could end up getting shafted for fuck all. It's hard to tell.

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23 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

No, it's one time compensation and that's all. He's literally a free agent, so nothing to do with us anymore.

 

17 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

We'll first try negotiating compensation with the club he signs for, and if we can't agree a fee then it'll go to a compensation panel.

We could end up with a decent fee through that or we could end up getting shafted for fuck all. It's hard to tell.

 

gotcha thanks to the both of you!

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3 hours ago, Palfy said:

He’s just signed for Southampton, fuck me are we that bad that anyone would choose them over us, or are we that skint that we can’t complete with Southampton. What’s going on someone has upset him. 

He could have gone to any of the ‘big 6’ and played in their academy or stayed at us and be behind Digne and Niels but he’s backed himself to get more first-team chances at Southampton - fair play and good luck to him for seeking what he thinks will be his best pathway.

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