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Got putter envy here Palfy!! Love a Scotty! Strangely, my neighbour next door but one is called Scotty Cameron. 
 

My bag is mostly Cobra. It’s my second full set of clubs (only played a few years) and my first were Cobra so stuck with them. I replaced the whole bag between November and January as I needed stiffer shafts. My first set I just picked up in a pro shop and bought senior flex, as soon as the coach said I needed stiffer I went shopping. 
 

I’ve got;

Cobra F8 driver, currently in 9 degrees

Cobra F8 3 wood, currently living in my garage because it costs me at least two strokes per round

Cobra F9 4 hybrid one length (my favourite club)

Cobra F9 irons, 5-pw/gw/sw 

Cobra king black 60 degree

TaylorMade Spider X putter in chalk white

All my clubs are fitted with Arccos sensors and I find the data really useful to help with what I need to work on.

 

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I played on Thursday up in Bolton and when I arrived I realised I had forgotten my putter. Pushed the rules a little by using a spare my playing partner had in the boot of his car, it weighed a tonne compared to my Spider X and did not help my round at all!

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Love this ...

Driver:- ping G400 LST X stiff with 8.5 loft cranked to 9.5

3 wood:-  ping g400 stretch X stiff cranked down to 12 degree.... Low bullets

Hybrid:- mizuno jpx 900. 16 degree.  Great club, blue as well.

Irons 5 to pw:- mizuno jpx 900 forged with project X 6.5 shafts. Play X stiff.  Great clubs, absolute joys to hit. Nothing has come close to the mizuno

Gap:- mizuno 48 degree

52:- Vega wedge

56:- Cleveland 

60:- Callaway

Putter:- taylomadd spider tour platinum

 

My game is I hit it long, not very good at short game or putting.....

My handicap is 13.6 but under the new system with be 19.5 as our course is the second hardest in the county with a slope rating of 142

 

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The G400 (non LST model) was the first driver my old coach put in my hand when he said my shafts had too much flex, to try something stiffer. 
I loved it! Just couldn’t afford it at the time I was driver shopping. 
 

Not even going to talk handicap at the moment, as after a bad couple of months I went up by 11.1 which sent me back to lessons. Won’t be putting any cards in until spring, give myself time to do some serious work over the winter. 
 

Ive been building two putting greens in my garden over the last couple of summers. Last summer I finished just a straight 4m x 1.5m to work on distance control, started to make a 4m x 5m green next to it for a bit more variation, with two chipping areas. Got the chipping areas in but with having a baby the missus wanted me to spend this summer making the garden where she would sit on maternity leave nice for her (it was nothing but rubble since we moved in three years ago so was a big job) so the second green has been neglected. Hopefully I’ll get it done early next year and make the most of it. Currently averaging 41 putts per round, so needs the work finished for some practice time other than on the landing carpet. 

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In other golf info, back in July me and my sister bought our Dad a new driver for his 70th. So I took him for a couple of fitting sessions at Club House golf in Manchester. First session the fella in there had all the personality of the clubs he was selling and we left a bit dejected. The second time we got a younger pro, very keen, wanted to talk about the products and was very enthusiastic and changing shafts and heads and different settings, explaining the technology they use with GC2 to dial in the right club. Anyway, we came away with a TaylorMade Sim Max D (for draw) as my Dad plays with a natural fade this really made his drives a lot more neutral. His old Ping was a 12 degree and they took him down to a 10, and he always had a regular shaft but he’s slowing down so he’s gone into a senior shaft now. 
In the booth he was hitting it between 15-18 yards longer than his old one and he was very happy. He’s been playing it since and took on some lessons, that 15-18 has now gone up to 30 yards longer than before. 
 

I saw him yesterday (it’s allowed where I live but not where he lives in Liverpool) and for some reason he’s been looking up shafts online and found the shaft fitted in his driver is worth £300 so he’s even more grateful for the driver we got him. He can afford to buy whatever clubs he wants nowadays, but he’s so stuck in his ways with golf that he doesn’t like change. So I was worried when we were getting him a new club he wouldn’t take to it and we’d waste all that money. 
 

He has since changed two of his wedges for TaylorMade milled grind 2 in 50 and 54 and I have proper envy!!

Even at 70, I can’t get close to him on the course in terms of numbers. He can’t hit as far as me, but he doesn’t tend to miss to much. 

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2 hours ago, StevO said:

The G400 (non LST model) was the first driver my old coach put in my hand when he said my shafts had too much flex, to try something stiffer. 
I loved it! Just couldn’t afford it at the time I was driver shopping. 
 

Not even going to talk handicap at the moment, as after a bad couple of months I went up by 11.1 which sent me back to lessons. Won’t be putting any cards in until spring, give myself time to do some serious work over the winter. 
 

Ive been building two putting greens in my garden over the last couple of summers. Last summer I finished just a straight 4m x 1.5m to work on distance control, started to make a 4m x 5m green next to it for a bit more variation, with two chipping areas. Got the chipping areas in but with having a baby the missus wanted me to spend this summer making the garden where she would sit on maternity leave nice for her (it was nothing but rubble since we moved in three years ago so was a big job) so the second green has been neglected. Hopefully I’ll get it done early next year and make the most of it. Currently averaging 41 putts per round, so needs the work finished for some practice time other than on the landing carpet. 

41 putts. .. that's good! I'm awful.  Started trying to release the putter head.... Feeling like it's a pendulum with the top of shaft pointing at my sternum throughout the swing rather than moving the handle..

 

I need low spinning drivers and low launching stiff shafts... Quite fast swing about 115 mph driver speed. 

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11 hours ago, StevO said:

I played on Thursday up in Bolton and when I arrived I realised I had forgotten my putter. Pushed the rules a little by using a spare my playing partner had in the boot of his car, it weighed a tonne compared to my Spider X and did not help my round at all!

Putting on fast greens is more my forte I like to read them and let the speed of the green do the rest, I’m terrible on slow greens where I feel like I’m forcing the putt if that makes sense, then it all goes tits up with not much control on distance and direction. 
Also I prefer putting with a soft ball I find the harder balls come off the face of the club like a rocket. 
But I do feel for you having to use a strange putter, it’s a nightmare you grow attached to your putter the balance the weight, putting is a confidence thing, I’d say my putter is coming up to 30 years old and if I lost that it would take me months to get over it, unless of course I’m lucky and the first one I replace it with knocks them in from all over. 

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1 minute ago, Hafnia said:

41 putts. .. that's good! I'm awful.  Started trying to release the putter head.... Feeling like it's a pendulum with the top of shaft pointing at my sternum throughout the swing rather than moving the handle

I’ve never had a putting lesson in my life I know people that have and still do, but as we all know the saying is distance for show putting for dough, I might succumb and book one but I’m worried thinking about it, as I think it’s the one element of the game that is unique to every individual, and I don’t want that part of my game to be compromised, and yet I probably need the help and it could save me a couple of shots around, decisions decisions why’s golf like life so complicated. 

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26 minutes ago, Palfy said:

I’ve never had a putting lesson in my life I know people that have and still do, but as we all know the saying is distance for show putting for dough, I might succumb and book one but I’m worried thinking about it, as I think it’s the one element of the game that is unique to every individual, and I don’t want that part of my game to be compromised, and yet I probably need the help and it could save me a couple of shots around, decisions decisions why’s golf like life so complicated. 

I think it's deffo practice but you've got to know what to practice. Some people are awesome at it naturally

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3 hours ago, Hafnia said:

41 putts. .. that's good! I'm awful.  Started trying to release the putter head.... Feeling like it's a pendulum with the top of shaft pointing at my sternum throughout the swing rather than moving the handle..

 

I need low spinning drivers and low launching stiff shafts... Quite fast swing about 115 mph driver speed. 

thanks 👍🏻 One of the problems is that first out is often too far from the pin to give me a chance of a single. 
 

I managed 35 putts at the Brabazon, to this day it’s my best. Shame though 35 puts we’re all me being 49 over par including a 15 on the 18th 😂

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3 hours ago, Palfy said:

Putting on fast greens is more my forte I like to read them and let the speed of the green do the rest, I’m terrible on slow greens where I feel like I’m forcing the putt if that makes sense, then it all goes tits up with not much control on distance and direction. 
Also I prefer putting with a soft ball I find the harder balls come off the face of the club like a rocket. 
But I do feel for you having to use a strange putter, it’s a nightmare you grow attached to your putter the balance the weight, putting is a confidence thing, I’d say my putter is coming up to 30 years old and if I lost that it would take me months to get over it, unless of course I’m lucky and the first one I replace it with knocks them in from all over. 

I’m exactly the same as you, fast green doing half of the work for you suits me much better. Pick a line and give it a tap. Slow green I’m hitting three and four putts. 

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3 hours ago, Palfy said:

I’ve never had a putting lesson in my life I know people that have and still do, but as we all know the saying is distance for show putting for dough, I might succumb and book one but I’m worried thinking about it, as I think it’s the one element of the game that is unique to every individual, and I don’t want that part of my game to be compromised, and yet I probably need the help and it could save me a couple of shots around, decisions decisions why’s golf like life so complicated. 

My first coach tried to give me a putting lesson, it made me lose a lot of confidence on the green. I’ve told my current coach that we won’t be going near the putter. If I can’t improve myself over the winter then maybe I’ll reconsider.
 

I overlock two fingers when I put, and only really suits the grip on my current putter and it’s become very natural over the summer. 

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8 hours ago, Hafnia said:

My handicap is 13.6 but under the new system with be 19.5 as our course is the second hardest in the county with a slope rating of 142

 

That’s a great standard mate I’m 17.3 my lowest was 14 about 20 years ago, I really tried not to be to competitive at golf I use it more of a release from work where I am having to show my competitive side constantly, so use to relax and forget about my worries. 

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1 hour ago, Palfy said:

That’s a great standard mate I’m 17.3 my lowest was 14 about 20 years ago, I really tried not to be to competitive at golf I use it more of a release from work where I am having to show my competitive side constantly, so use to relax and forget about my worries. 

I don't drink anymore ... Golf is my thing.  It's pure therapy ... Absolutely nothing like it on a spring or summers night to have 9 holes and feel the stress just disappear

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Got a game lined up for Thursday next week with my Dad. Not played together for a couple of months. 
Hoping my uncle can join us too, but currently trying to get over corona. 
 

In other news, it was my five year anniversary with my current employer and they have given me some gift vouchers. Treating myself to a fancy new pair of Nike shoes for next summer. 

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56 minutes ago, StevO said:

Got a game lined up for Thursday next week with my Dad. Not played together for a couple of months. 
Hoping my uncle can join us too, but currently trying to get over corona. 
 

In other news, it was my five year anniversary with my current employer and they have given me some gift vouchers. Treating myself to a fancy new pair of Nike shoes for next summer. 

its wild how nike has taken over the golf world.  when i grew up they didn't even sell golf anything.  they were a nothing in golf.  it was all Ping, Cleveland, TaylorMade, Callaway, etc.  Tiger Woods hit the scene, they went HARD with him and now they have a massive market share.  

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2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

its wild how nike has taken over the golf world.  when i grew up they didn't even sell golf anything.  they were a nothing in golf.  it was all Ping, Cleveland, TaylorMade, Callaway, etc.  Tiger Woods hit the scene, they went HARD with him and now they have a massive market share.  

All of those other brands are still huge in the equipment market, but Nike are out of that now. But they have gone in with most of the top players in the world with clothing deals. 
Tiger, Rory, Brooks, Finau, Fleetwood, Day, Molinari, Reed, Wolff, and plenty more. 

I can only really think of Bryson and Fowler who are in the Cobra/Puma stable, DJ with Adidas and Spieth with Under Armour. There will be plenty of other sponsorship deals, Im not sure any brand is pushing as hard as Nike. 

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29 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

I think Nike do the best apparel that's affordable.  Footjoy is good but pricey, Galvin green is rip off....

I bought the airmax shoes, awesome. Do comfy. Got Adidas for rainy/winter.... Starting to let a bit of water through after _ years though. 

I’ve got Calvin Green wets black bottoms blue and white top obviously 🙄, had them 7 or 8 years now cost a fortune but still look good, unlike the golf 🏌️

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3 hours ago, Palfy said:

Going to Marbella Tuesday for a weeks golf with 7 friends, unless we go into full lockdown and the flights are closed. 
Playing Santana, Santa Clara, Marbella Club, Torquabrada spelt wrong and Flamingos looking forward to it even though I have to isolate for 2 weeks when I get back. 

Couldn’t possibly have more envy right now, unless you were going on a private jet. 

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On 16/10/2020 at 15:17, Hafnia said:

I think Nike do the best apparel that's affordable.  Footjoy is good but pricey, Galvin green is rip off....

I bought the airmax shoes, awesome. Do comfy. Got Adidas for rainy/winter.... Starting to let a bit of water through after _ years though. 

I couldn't fault Footjoy. Bought two pairs on the cheap about 10 years ago. Wore one pair to death, and still have the other pair now. 

I also like the under armour gear. We have an outlet in Portsmouth so I pop in there every time I go down there to see what I can find with a few quid off! 

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15 hours ago, Bailey said:

I couldn't fault Footjoy. Bought two pairs on the cheap about 10 years ago. Wore one pair to death, and still have the other pair now. 

I also like the under armour gear. We have an outlet in Portsmouth so I pop in there every time I go down there to see what I can find with a few quid off! 

Under Armour do some nice stuff, I get there golf shorts really good fit and comfortable 👌

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4 hours ago, StevO said:

I work not too far from Club House golf. 
It’s a problem because I’m having a quiet afternoon and they have a top in stock that I could too easily jump in the car and go and get it. 
It’s either that or go and make another cuppa. 

😂 decisions decisions, anyhow what’s the top fit like?

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1 hour ago, Palfy said:

😂 decisions decisions, anyhow what’s the top fit like?

I decided to leave work an hour early and go to the shop. 
The top was reduced from £79 to £59, so ive got to be happy with that haven’t I? 
 

Hopefully the weather is a little chilly on Thursday so I can wear it 😂

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3 hours ago, Hafnia said:

I'm due a bit of s splurge.... How's the time for it isn't it.  Is clubhouse a big store??? 

It’s not that big really. Their warehouse for their online sales is massive, so anything they don’t have in the store they can normally have within a couple of hours, but they have a good selection in store. 
Enough to keep me going back anyway. 
 

They are often cheaper in the store than online too, but I’ve never seen anything advertising that. Like the top I got today was £20 less than the website. 

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Any golf ball recommendations?

Other than the usual Pro V1/x or TP5/x. 
 

I was playing a Bridgestone Tour B RX, bought quite a few earlier in the year as they stopped making them and were £19.99 per box. 
Im now down to my last box. I picked up some Titleist TruFeel balls the other day, so going to give them a try. 
 

The rate I lose them I’m not going for the £40 per dozen stuff. I’ll be burning money. 

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1 hour ago, StevO said:

Any golf ball recommendations?

Other than the usual Pro V1/x or TP5/x. 
 

I was playing a Bridgestone Tour B RX, bought quite a few earlier in the year as they stopped making them and were £19.99 per box. 
Im now down to my last box. I picked up some Titleist TruFeel balls the other day, so going to give them a try. 
 

The rate I lose them I’m not going for the £40 per dozen stuff. I’ll be burning money. 

Snell MTB black are supposed to be the same as a prov1. 

I lose balls too easily to play expensive ones but Ironically I could benefit from a tour level ball due to my swing speed. I need a low spin driver and ball. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Snell MTB black are supposed to be the same as a prov1. 

I lose balls too easily to play expensive ones but Ironically I could benefit from a tour level ball due to my swing speed. I need a low spin driver and ball. 

 

I played Pro V1 for a big chunk of last year, but I was spending more on balls that I was on green fees. 
I did like it a lot though. 

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4 hours ago, StevO said:

I played Pro V1 for a big chunk of last year, but I was spending more on balls that I was on green fees. 
I did like it a lot though. 

Must admit ... Whenever I find a new Pro V1 and play it .... You notice a difference.  Goes a little further, approach shots seem nice, lovely feel and off a putter they are very good.

Srixon Ad333 are solid balls but you can get the Snell or vice for similar if not cheaper.

 

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Should have stayed at home today. Or at least gone and played pitch and putt!

Chipping and putting better than normal. 42 putts, could have done better but I’ll take it. 
 

My driving and long irons were awful! I think I lost seven balls off the tee. 
 

Disappointed. 

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When you talk scores are you playing a full 18 or just 9?  Might be a culture thing but when I golfed (and my father too) it was always 9.  I think I played a full 18 maybe 5 times In my whole life. Although over here the public courses are usually smaller, whereas the country clubs are big and nice but you have to be rich or your parents be rich to have a membership. 

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19 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

When you talk scores are you playing a full 18 or just 9?  Might be a culture thing but when I golfed (and my father too) it was always 9.  I think I played a full 18 maybe 5 times In my whole life. Although over here the public courses are usually smaller, whereas the country clubs are big and nice but you have to be rich or your parents be rich to have a membership. 

Talking 18 Mark. 
 

Ive played in Jacksonville a few times. My aunt lives on a country club gated community (old and rich), and we played at a members course too. I just emailed ahead and they charged me and my Dad about $70 each.

Golf may be expensive in the majority of places, but I know for certain that in areas where there is plenty of tourism that golf can be very accessible. Speaking of Florida, the outskirts of Los Angeles and Las Vegas. I’ve always tried to get a round in when possible, but the missus often gets in the way. I have friends who have played in Phoenix and Chicago too. 
 

Golf, now, is a whole lot more accessible all over the world than it was even just ten years ago. 

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13 hours ago, StevO said:

Talking 18 Mark. 
 

Ive played in Jacksonville a few times. My aunt lives on a country club gated community (old and rich), and we played at a members course too. I just emailed ahead and they charged me and my Dad about $70 each.

Golf may be expensive in the majority of places, but I know for certain that in areas where there is plenty of tourism that golf can be very accessible. Speaking of Florida, the outskirts of Los Angeles and Las Vegas. I’ve always tried to get a round in when possible, but the missus often gets in the way. I have friends who have played in Phoenix and Chicago too. 
 

Golf, now, is a whole lot more accessible all over the world than it was even just ten years ago. 

I have photos somewhere of my dad at Pebble Beach in the sixties, just out of interest I looked up what the green fees are today....$575 if you're a guest at the resort. Ouch.

Funny thing is he was total crap, I was beating him at fourteen:P

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Just now, MikeO said:

I have photos somewhere of my dad at Bebble Beach in the sixties, just out of interest I looked up what the green fees are today....$595 if you're a guest at the resort. Ouch.

Funny thing is he was total crap, I was beating him at fourteen:P

https://www.howestongolfcourse.com.au/

AU$25 to play here... Definitely Accessible :)

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12 hours ago, MikeO said:

I have photos somewhere of my dad at Pebble Beach in the sixties, just out of interest I looked up what the green fees are today....$575 if you're a guest at the resort. Ouch.

Funny thing is he was total crap, I was beating him at fourteen:P

Pebble Beach is one of the most famous golf courses in the world! It’s hosted loads of majors. 
That’s like booking a game of footy at Wembley, but with much nicer weather. 😂

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25 minutes ago, StevO said:

Pebble Beach is one of the most famous golf courses in the world! It’s hosted loads of majors. 
That’s like booking a game of footy at Wembley, but with much nicer weather. 😂

I know, he was so proud to play there, can't remember who he was with but must've been some music biz bigwigs. Probably took them a while to get the course back up to scratch after dad hacked his way round:P

Where we used to play most Sundays when I was a kid no longer exists as a course sadly, was in the grounds of Shillinglee House and (unusually) only nine holes. You can still see from the overhead that it used to be a course but it shut down in 2002. It only oficially opened in 1980 but we played it for many years before that as the course was finished but the building work (clubhouse etc) wasn't, my dad's accountant knew the owner:)

https://golfsmissinglinks.co.uk/index.php/england/south-east/sussex/1159-sussex-shillinglee-park

 

 

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On 21/10/2020 at 19:20, Hafnia said:

Must admit ... Whenever I find a new Pro V1 and play it .... You notice a difference.  Goes a little further, approach shots seem nice, lovely feel and off a putter they are very good.

Srixon Ad333 are solid balls but you can get the Snell or vice for similar if not cheaper.

 

Bit late to the post but I have always found Ad333 to be solid balls for the days I dont want to lose my pro v's. 

Sometimes I think it can be simpler to play with a slightly harder ball especially the higher handicapper. Hard balls almost always roll out so you don't have to worry about check or spin. Knowing the ball will roll out makes it easier to judge where to pitch balls onto the green.

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1 hour ago, Hafnia said:

I'm looking for a hybrid jacket .... Wind, cold water ......  Galvin green looking likeliest.....

Some of the Adidas stuff is nice too, though we know I’m loyal to Nike, it looked good quality last time I was in the shop. 
 

I got some vouchers from work a few days back for my five year anniversary, so ordered some shoes for next summer. Don’t like spikes when the ground is dry, so got some spikeless Nike air Max 270G. They will be good for the range over winter too. 
 

Im not sure I’ll get any 18 hole rounds in before the end of the year, but hoping to get some 9 holes in where I can. 

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2 hours ago, Palfy said:

Had a great weeks golf in Spain excellent weather bar Thursday, the courses were quiet due to people not traveling but were in pristine condition. 

So jealous mate! How did you play? Follow each round with a nice bottle of the Spanish red or two?

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7 hours ago, StevO said:

So jealous mate! How did you play? Follow each round with a nice bottle of the Spanish red or two?

I was up and down mate depending on how I recovered from the night before, been doing this trip with the same friends for 23 years now, and it's become just as much about having good food and a good drink than just about the golf, I've known most of them since our early teens so soon as we arrive there is this very fast age regression to our early thirties. 
I won 2 rounds played off 19 and got 28 points was savagely cut to 16 and on the other and won with 27 points, not great scoring by us all I know, but when you don’t get to bed till 2-3 in the morning and the courses are that more difficult it’s not bad going. 
Now I got time to chill and recover for 2 weeks thanks to self isolation😢

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16 hours ago, Palfy said:

And the dearest, look on line mate and shop around fusion are quite a good golf outlet and very trustworthy.

 

15 hours ago, StevO said:

Some of the Adidas stuff is nice too, though we know I’m loyal to Nike, it looked good quality last time I was in the shop. 
 

I got some vouchers from work a few days back for my five year anniversary, so ordered some shoes for next summer. Don’t like spikes when the ground is dry, so got some spikeless Nike air Max 270G. They will be good for the range over winter too. 
 

Im not sure I’ll get any 18 hole rounds in before the end of the year, but hoping to get some 9 holes in where I can. 

https://www.hotgolf.co.uk/product/galvin-green-lyon-interface-1-thermal-jacket-black/

Gone for this ..... Nice price. Retail at 70 quid more in other places. 

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7 hours ago, Palfy said:

I was up and down mate depending on how I recovered from the night before, been doing this trip with the same friends for 23 years now, and it's become just as much about having good food and a good drink than just about the golf, I've known most of them since our early teens so soon as we arrive there is this very fast age regression to our early thirties. 
I won 2 rounds played off 19 and got 28 points was savagely cut to 16 and on the other and won with 27 points, not great scoring by us all I know, but when you don’t get to bed till 2-3 in the morning and the courses are that more difficult it’s not bad going. 
Now I got time to chill and recover for 2 weeks thanks to self isolation😢

Not done a full golf trip.... Done a couple of nights away locally with brother and cousin..... Brutal amount of ale drunk. 

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The new Nike shoes arrived in the post yesterday. Very strange as I have the exact same trainers just not in the golf version. They have changed the sole and then coated the outer layer of the shoe in like a clear rubber to make them waterproof, so there is not a lot of flexibility and they are quite tight because of this. 
Going to wear them while I’m out and about today and see if they soften up. 

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