Btay 2,013 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Need to get at walker peters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dunlopp9987 536 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hafnia said: We score in next 5 and we win this..... It really does have that feel of, if we can break through for one, the flood gates could open Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badaids 571 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Bernard. Never seen a supposingly tricky attacking midfielder more reluctant to try and take on the defenders. Shukes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aidan 2,228 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Thats that then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Btay 2,013 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hafnia 6,610 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Dickhead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shukes 4,452 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Well there we go. Dirty play from Digne and for what he deserved there. Gave himself the red. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwlad all over 568 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Accidental, never a red. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dunlopp9987 536 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Christ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bailey 4,954 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 I think that should be two yellows more than a straight red. He took two chunks out of him and both deserved yellows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Btay 2,013 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 That’s not a red. Accidentally treaded on him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shukes 4,452 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, badaids said: Bernard. Never seen a supposingly tricky attacking midfielder more reluctant to try and take on the defenders. He just isn’t a top level player. Panics in the last third. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markjazzbassist 3,164 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 I have hope it galvanizes us. COYB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dunlopp9987 536 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 You know this is only going to add fuel to the fire that we're a "dirty" team Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barryj 1,171 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Not sure - looked a red to me unfortunately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aidan 2,228 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Wow shots fires at Digne. It was obviously an accident he didnt break his stride. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hafnia 6,610 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 It may have been accidental but I don't think so and based on last week he ain't gonna get off with it. Shukes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badaids 571 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Never a red. Well that balances out Pickford last week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zoo 2.0 957 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 The media will be loving that red card. Can clearly see he trips, clumsy and a yellow card yes. Absolute laughable red card that will be lapped up by Sky Sports and the like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sibdane 2,227 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Oh boy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwlad all over 568 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Yep. Sky loving it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badaids 571 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 At least we have a good replacement in Niels. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bailey 4,954 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 No doubt the second one was accidental but it stopped the counter so a clear booking. First one was deliberate and deserved a booking too. Biggest problem with this is the ban that follows for a straight red. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nyblue23 623 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Btay said: Need to get at walker peters. I don’t think that’s what you meant. Btay 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nyblue23 623 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, Bailey said: No doubt the second one was accidental but it stopped the counter so a clear booking. First one was deliberate and deserved a booking too. Biggest problem with this is the ban that follows for a straight red. Can we appeal that? Clearly a horseshit call. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bailey 4,954 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Great touch that from Allan. Back in at the last minute. Mina sold himself though, , can't do that when you are down to 10. Gordon didnt fancy that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badaids 571 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 No one has played well today, and Southampton have played in an organised and efficient way. It's the hope that gets you. Elston Gunnn 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aidan 2,228 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, nyblue23 said: Can we appeal that? Clearly a horseshit call. Not a chance they'll overturn that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bailey 4,954 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, nyblue23 said: Can we appeal that? Clearly a horseshit call. Due to the decision that was made you would just have to appeal the type of ban rather than how it came about. As it was clearly dangerous regardless of intent, I doubt anything will change. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zoo 2.0 957 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, nyblue23 said: Can we appeal that? Clearly a horseshit call. Yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shukes 4,452 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Had a kick at him, sprinted after him and instead of working the side, ran straight Into to the back of him. Ref was always going to send him off. Defence is our biggest problem again. We’re always going to give goals away. Forwards must love playing on the edge of our area, they get time to control the ball, look up and make a decision. Add to that our lack of creativity today. Bailey 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Btay 2,013 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Shukes said: Had a kick at him, sprinted after him and instead of working the side, ran straight Into to the back of him. Ref was always going to send him off. Defence is our biggest problem again. We’re always going to give goals away. Forwards must love playing on the edge of our area, they get time to control the ball, look up and make a decision. Add to that our lack of creativity today. Just don’t think it’s a straight red. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bailey 4,954 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Allan is absolutely shagged. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hafnia 6,610 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 In fairness Southampton have played well. RuffRob, Bailey and badaids 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badaids 571 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 We have even given up, or they are all fucked, or both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Btay 2,013 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Hafnia said: In fairness Southampton have played well. We’ve made bang average players like Redmond and Adams look good though markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aidan 2,228 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Digne, Richarlison, Coleman all out and I'd bet James will probably be out after this game too. Thats isn't looking good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
milesey05 239 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Clumsy? Yes straight red? Not a chance. Digne held his arms in the air as Peter’s slowed down. that fucking prick Smith on commentary!! can’t stand the bloke Gwlad all over, markjazzbassist and nyblue23 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markjazzbassist 3,164 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Not our day today, proves that richarlison is worth more than just goals to us. Soton blind squirrel found a nut. You can’t win em all, on to the next and have a short memory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badaids 571 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Big pal of mine is a saints fan. Just texted me to say that a) he can't believe how well soton have player b) how fucking awful iwobi is. nyblue23, AlbanyNYToffee and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shukes 4,452 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Not just Iwobi, it’s whoever plays on the left. Bernard has been awful too. Position is cursed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwlad all over 568 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 I guess a reality check had to come but this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badaids 571 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, Shukes said: Not just Iwobi, it’s whoever plays on the left. Bernard has been awful too. Position is cursed. Someone just needs to tell Bernard, whenever you get the ball just TAKE ON THE MAN FFS. markjazzbassist and Shukes 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwlad all over 568 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Go and do one Kevin Friend. markjazzbassist and nyblue23 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shukes 4,452 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, badaids said: Someone just needs to tell Bernard, whenever you get the ball just TAKE ON THE MAN FFS. I really do t get it. His only strength is that he is tricky, but he seems to be scared to use it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Btay 2,013 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Commentator actually just say that DCL challenge he’s seen them given as a red... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romey 1878 13,593 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 This has been as bad as anything we watched under Silva. No cohesion or tempo to speak of. We've played at walking pace from the off and had no idea what to do on the ball. No protection from the midfield with Allan being particularly bad - the game looked far too quick for him. We didn't get anyone up supporting Dom so he's been completely out of the game. Godfrey is solid enough but we needed someone that could go forward. James hasn't looked fit and playing him has backfired on us. Iwoeful is utter shite. No idea how anyone can rate him - he's a more expensive Bolasie but without the attempted tricks. Elston Gunnn and nyblue23 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shukes 4,452 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Terrible performance. Only player I would say did anything was Keane. He played to the final whistle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badaids 571 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Shukes said: I really do t get it. His only strength is that he is tricky, but he seems to be scared to use it. The only point of having him on the pitch is to take the player on. But he just pulls up turns around and passes back nearly every time. He has a heart, brain and lungs the size of a pea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Btay 2,013 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, Shukes said: Terrible performance. Only player I would say did anything was Keane. He played to the final whistle. Thought he and Mina were terrible. Not once did they win a tackle when they stepped out of the line. Whole team has been shit. Should have played Gordon from the start over Iwobi. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sibdane 2,227 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Well that was beyond disappointing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tonsta 67 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Whats worrying is thats 2 games on the trot we have been poor, we got away with one but not today Plus side still top, but very flat very slow in the build up, time for Carlo to earn his corn. Next match with 2 regulars missing, subs were poor, never had an influence, as for Iwobi time to unload in January. But i trust the management to sort it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
c1982 2,588 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 I did think without Coleman and Kenny, it may have been worth changing to 3 at the back and maybe playing Davies there with Godfrey as his protection. Missing Coleman/Kenny and Richarlison completely messed with the balance of what’s worked on both flanks - I think if only 1 flank had been disrupted, we’d have probably been okay but that was very poor today and plenty to work on before Newcastle. Credit to Southampton, they tactically suffocated us and looked very handy themselves on the break. They’ve got a very good manager so fair play to them for being patient with him. badaids and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bailey 4,954 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 43 minutes ago, Shukes said: Not just Iwobi, it’s whoever plays on the left. Bernard has been awful too. Position is cursed. I'd say all of our wide players today were dreadful and if anything, Iwobi was probably the best of the bunch in the end. 38 minutes ago, Shukes said: Terrible performance. Only player I would say did anything was Keane. He played to the final whistle. I thought Keane gave Adams a really easy time. He stood off him and only started getting tight again when he went off and he was playing up against a young lad. It was one of them that reminded me of his previous 2 years at the club where he hid away from confrontation. Shukes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RuffRob 502 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 36 minutes ago, c1982 said: I did think without Coleman and Kenny, it may have been worth changing to 3 at the back and maybe playing Davies there with Godfrey as his protection. Missing Coleman/Kenny and Richarlison completely messed with the balance of what’s worked on both flanks - I think if only 1 flank had been disrupted, we’d have probably been okay but that was very poor today and plenty to work on before Newcastle. Credit to Southampton, they tactically suffocated us and looked very handy themselves on the break. They’ve got a very good manager so fair play to them for being patient with him. agree with all this. Thought Southampton played really well to be honest . We where unable to get into any sort of rhythm going in the game. They really took advantage of us being without a recognised right back. they just grew in confidence after they scored. In the end, glad we didn't concede more than 2 goals. the players that got their chance today, didn't really step up to the plate. lets hope this was just a blip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elston Gunnn 423 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 The attribute I most value in sports is relentlessness. It’s both a physical and mental attribute. Players and teams that display relentlessness are constantly moving while thinking. They anticipate, and so are consistently a step ahead of the opposition. They appear, and often literally are, quicker and much more energetic than the opponent. They act with purpose and controlled fierceness. Football is a running, passing, strategic and tactical thinking game. A team with slightly inferior talent can outshine a more talented team, especially when the talent difference is small. When my team looks lazy, is thinking and moving lethargically rather than energetically, I am somewhere between dispirited and outraged. I guess about midway between those two feelings today. Bailey 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 8,082 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Looks like I made the right decision then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bailey 4,954 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 A lot went wrong today and Southampton are a good side. They work hard and they play well in their system. We weren't at it and we got beaten comfortably but I also don't think Carlo set the team up right for this one and then he was too slow to make changes. It was clear from an early stage that they were finding loads of joy between midfield and defence. They were turning us over, and hitting us in those spaces and could have scored two before they did score. Poor Allan was completely overrun. He tried is ass off though. We needed Doucoure to sit in alongside Allan and play more conservatively. It was like we hadn't done our home work or were complacent in thinking we would beat them anyway. It was no surprise that changing Iwobi didn't improve our performance, and he was scapegoated a little for me, and it also wasn't a surprise that we did improve when Delph and Allan played alongside each other. Unfortunately it wasn't long after that when Digne got sent off and we were done. It also didn't help that James decided he was too injured to do anything shortly afterwards either. The player I feel most sorry for is Godfrey. He got very little help from James. The midfield were caught too high up the pitch to cover for James as they normally do and then he showed without any doubt he isnt a full back. He isn't consistent enough on the ball with his passing or his decision making and likewise he didn't show that he was a particularly good defender either. For a quick and strong guy he was beaten time and time again down the outside. All the talk was about how well we had prepared but its safe to say whatever they did in training didn't work! Of the rest, I don't think anyone came out with credit. The biggest bonus being Pickford didn't make a big gaffe. Mina did well most of the game but then started coming out of the line and not winning the ball, Keane turned into the timid player he was last season and Digne wasn't at his best either before being sent off. Allan had no chance, Doucoure was constantly caught out by the turnovers and Siggy started well but when Southampton started winning he faded into the background. Delph did well when he came on. None of the wide players did well either. Iwobi had moments of good play and terrible play and James had his moments but gave the ball away too often and gave Godfrey little support. Bernard was as crap as those two out wide, but at least looked lively in the middle and Gordon showed glimpses but cut a very frustrated figure which I was a little shocked about for a sub playing for his career. I expected him to show a bit more energy off the ball. DCL had very little to work with but bar one good tussle early on, he was handled with ease by the Southampton defenders and then when he did get a touch, he made some very average decisions or touches. He was another player that fell into the "feel sorry for" camp. I think Southampton will take plenty of points off teams this season and if he don't sharpen up then and they stay injury free then they could finish the season above us. I would also be going out to by Ings this summer. He has everything and always found himself in space for the ball today. He has such great feet too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlbanyNYToffee 404 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Aidan said: Not a chance they'll overturn that. Only because it would further prove what a complete fucking farce VAR is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlbanyNYToffee 404 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Shukes said: Not just Iwobi, it’s whoever plays on the left. Bernard has been awful too. Position is cursed. Iwobi wasn’t on the left he was in for Richarlison as 2nd striker. It’s usually Gomes and today it was Siggy. Who was shit too for most of the game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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