duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 http://sportwitness.co.uk/rafael-benitez-wants-sign-player-everton-another-target-rejected-toffees/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 Quote Elsewhere, Everton appear to be eyeing a double swoop for Real Madrid pair Isco and Luka Jovic. Isco has had a decent 2021/22 so far, but Jovic has had a torrid time in Madrid since his move from Eintracht Frankfurt. And now Spanish outlet Defensa Central are reporting that Everton want the pair in January, with the Toffees said to be wanting permanent deals, but that they would also settle for six-month loans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 No, enough with the expensive older players. Six month deals may be ok if wages are low enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 25 minutes ago, London Blue said: No, enough with the expensive older players. Six month deals may be ok if wages are low enough. Luka Jovic however, could be a very exciting prospect. Romey 1878 and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 hours ago, c1982 said: Luka Jovic however, could be a very exciting prospect. I see him being another Cenk Tosun, He's supposed to be a goalscorer but looking at his statistics he doesn't get me excited. Played 17 games in two years and scored 4 goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 10 hours ago, Bill said: I see him being another Cenk Tosun, He's supposed to be a goalscorer but looking at his statistics he doesn't get me excited. Played 17 games in two years and scored 4 goals. He's a midfielder isn't he? Ignore me, thought you were talking about isco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 10 hours ago, Bill said: I see him being another Cenk Tosun, He's supposed to be a goalscorer but looking at his statistics he doesn't get me excited. Played 17 games in two years and scored 4 goals. He's back up to Benzema, his game time is always going to be low, and only 23. So couldn't be further from Tosun if he tried Apparently had quite a few injuries too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 55 minutes ago, Matt said: He's back up to Benzema, his game time is always going to be low, and only 23. So couldn't be further from Tosun if he tried Apparently had quite a few injuries too. Exactly doesn't play and doesn't score, has more than a few injuries. Age is not a plus if he can't get on the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, Bill said: Exactly doesn't play and doesn't score, has more than a few injuries. Age is not a plus if he can't get on the park. So then you and me are the same as Tosun then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Thats a bit of a silly reply Matt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Bill said: Thats a bit of a silly reply Matt. Yes, your reply was indeed silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Wait, are people having a pop at Isco for not scoring enough? Everyone knows he's not a striker, right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 58 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Wait, are people having a pop at Isco for not scoring enough? Everyone knows he's not a striker, right ? I think we moved on to that €60m player Jovic being like Tosun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 http://sportwitness.co.uk/everton-feasible-destination-midfielder-january-benitez-knows-well/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Didn't take long at all... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/everton-boards-failure-to-strengthen-squad-in-vital-window-was-a-dereliction-of-duty-09jxw5vmz There was interest in a loan move for Anthony Elanga at Manchester United, although it was suggested over the weekend that had no chance of happening. Plates which had been spinning crashed to the floor. Now the attention will turn to free agents, with Andre Ayew and Isco, who saw a move to Union Berlin collapse, under consideration. You were saying @Romey 1878? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Matt said: Didn't take long at all... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/everton-boards-failure-to-strengthen-squad-in-vital-window-was-a-dereliction-of-duty-09jxw5vmz There was interest in a loan move for Anthony Elanga at Manchester United, although it was suggested over the weekend that had no chance of happening. Plates which had been spinning crashed to the floor. Now the attention will turn to free agents, with Andre Ayew and Isco, who saw a move to Union Berlin collapse, under consideration. You were saying @Romey 1878? Is he playing under Dyche? Didn’t realise he’d signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 I liked the idea of him a little while ago but I’m not sure he’s what we need right now & can’t see how he it fits into a Sean Dyche team right now. Romey 1878 and RPG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 7 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Is he playing under Dyche? Didn’t realise he’d signed. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, Btay said: I liked the idea of him a little while ago but I’m not sure he’s what we need right now & can’t see how he it fits into a Sean Dyche team right now. Indeed. The ball getting twatted over his head all game doesn't seem like a good fit for him. Btay and Matt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Romey 1878, duncanmckenzieismagic and Matt 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 6 hours ago, Btay said: I liked the idea of him a little while ago but I’m not sure he’s what we need right now & can’t see how he it fits into a Sean Dyche team right now. If Dyche wants someone to pass the ball forward, he might be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 59 minutes ago, Formby said: If Dyche wants someone to pass the ball forward, he might be useful. It’s also hard to have one player who relies solely on technical ability in a team with extremely limited technical ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Btay said: It’s also hard to have one player who relies solely on technical ability in a team with extremely limited technical ability. Isco and Iwobi interchanging with Gray as an outlet on the ground? It's still not happening and honestly the technical aspect is the least of my concerns, I'm not sure how hard he'd work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, Matt said: I'm not sure how hard he'd work. Yes you are. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Yes you are. I have a feeling but honestly I've only been mesmerised by him in a quality team. But you're right. This seems to show both sides well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Like James, he's absolute quality. But, unlike when James was here we are an absolute shit show now and we can't afford to carry him. James' quality had opportunities to be shown, but right now I don't feel we'd be able to showcase any quality he has and therefore his lessened work rate would really stand out. StevO, Matt and Trigger 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Like James, he's absolute quality. But, unlike when James was here we are an absolute shit show now and we can't afford to carry him. James' quality had opportunities to be shown, but right now I don't feel we'd be able to showcase any quality he has and therefore his lessened work rate would really stand out. Would he work as the support striker since we've only got 1 at a time? Anyway, still pipedream stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 10 minutes ago, Matt said: Would he work as the support striker since we've only got 1 at a time? Anyway, still pipedream stuff. If it ever happened then we'd have to try and find a way to get the best out of him. Anything that kept him away from the middle of the park would be great. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 24 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Nah, why would we want to get a creative goal threat when we're joint bottom... Formby and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 13 minutes ago, Matt said: Nah, why would we want to get a creative goal threat when we're joint bottom... He mustn’t want to wear shin pads. Shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad all over Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Dyche said he's only interested in signing players (on frees) who can add something to the squad. Said as much that there is a reason they are where they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 12 hours ago, Gwlad all over said: Dyche said he's only interested in signing players (on frees) who can add something to the squad. Said as much that there is a reason they are where they are. I am glad he said that, too often we have brought the wrong type in. Unfortunately, all to often these days players who are paid vast of sums early in a careers and they simply expect the same level of pay throughout it, even if their skill set diminished or the overall hunger and passion for the game is no longer there. There always seems to be one team that will still pay the massive wages in the hope the original talent will reappear. High chance Isco would be one of these player, and I have seen enough overpaid player taking to the pitch (or not!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Spanish midfielder Isco, 30, is reportedly waiting for a concrete proposal to his agents from Everton as he continues to look for a new club after his contract with Sevilla was terminated. (TuttoJuve - in Italian) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 9 hours ago, Matt said: Spanish midfielder Isco, 30, is reportedly waiting for a concrete proposal to his agents from Everton as he continues to look for a new club after his contract with Sevilla was terminated. (TuttoJuve - in Italian) If he’s not good enough for Sevilla why would we want him as Dyche said they have to be better than what we have. he could be finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, patto said: If he’s not good enough for Sevilla why would we want him as Dyche said they have to be better than what we have. he could be finished. Or he could need a new challenge. We've reinvigorated several careers, an 18 month contract on a free isn't that much of a gamble. Worst case, sell to China or the Middle East. Its a no brainer for me. StevO and Fosse Captain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 After yesterdays performance Who would you drop to play Isco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 12 minutes ago, Bill said: After yesterdays performance Who would you drop to play Isco. No one. That midfield trio was great and will be intimidating for any team to play against when they play with that energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 18 minutes ago, Bill said: After yesterdays performance Who would you drop to play Isco. That's not the important question, options is the point. Fosse Captain and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 42 minutes ago, Matt said: Or he could need a new challenge. We've reinvigorated several careers, an 18 month contract on a free isn't that much of a gamble. Worst case, sell to China or the Middle East. Its a no brainer for me. I like Isco and think he’s a cracking little player, I just don’t think his strengths would shine enough in our team. Maybe in certain games we could drop a Gana or Doucoure and have a more progressive player in there. He’s going to have to buy in to the teams work rate however his quality is never in question. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 45 minutes ago, Btay said: I like Isco and think he’s a cracking little player, I just don’t think his strengths would shine enough in our team. Maybe in certain games we could drop a Gana or Doucoure and have a more progressive player in there. He’s going to have to buy in to the teams work rate however his quality is never in question. I get that, but one of the complaints for years has been we've not had a creative attacking midfield. Here's one on a free. A luxury to have maybe, but one that is a step above what we have. Someone to either bring on against teams that are tough to break down or throw on when we're trailing. Or we don't and we have no creative option at all, which hasn't really been working out for us. A gamble yes, but rewards are much greater than the potential loss. StevO and Fosse Captain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 As long as his wages wouldn’t be ridiculous then it could be a good move on a short term contract. I could see him coming in for Gueye if we needed to add a creative spark in a match where we’re struggling to get anything happening. I don’t think he comes in and takes a starting spot in Dyche’s system though. Would he be happy to be a sub here? The other risk is he’s never played in the PL and would need time to adapt. Not sure we have much time for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Read a lot of stories about his attitude, being a bad trainer. Fail to see how he would fit in with the culture that dyche is trying to create. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 14 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Read a lot of stories about his attitude, being a bad trainer. Fail to see how he would fit in with the culture that dyche is trying to create. Zidane would disagree with you on both points and has quoted so directly. "Isco's attitude is always spectacular," he said. "He always trains very well. It's normal he's angry at times, but that has no importance to me. There's no story." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Isco apparently didn’t like Bale, Ronaldo, Verane and Benzema too. Because Bale spent too much time practicing golf, Ronaldo with his fancy cars and price jets, Verane because he says up late watching NBA then turns up for training tired and Benzema because he went to night clubs too often. That sounds like a guy I could relate too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 5 minutes ago, StevO said: Zidane would disagree with you on both points and has quoted so directly. "Isco's attitude is always spectacular," he said. "He always trains very well. It's normal he's angry at times, but that has no importance to me. There's no story." Sevilla contract terminated because he "did not meet the club's expectations". Collapsed deal to Union because "the player's demands afterwards differed from the original agreement". Risky on the face of it. I don't know enough about him to comment further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, MikeO said: Sevilla contract terminated because he "did not meet the club's expectations". Collapsed deal to Union because "the player's demands afterwards differed from the original agreement". Risky on the face of it. I don't know enough about him to comment further. Me neither, well as I played I know he’s exceptionally talented, but nothing of his attitude. Just googled Isco attitude and found Zidane defending him. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 42 minutes ago, MikeO said: Sevilla contract terminated because he "did not meet the club's expectations". They had a change of manager in October so probably didn’t help the man (Lopetegui - new Wolves manager) who signed him leaving a couple of months later. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 4 hours ago, Matt said: Or he could need a new challenge. We've reinvigorated several careers, an 18 month contract on a free isn't that much of a gamble. Worst case, sell to China or the Middle East. Its a no brainer for me. As you know it’s not easy to move players if they are on big wages which he will probably want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 3 minutes ago, patto said: As you know it’s not easy to move players if they are on big wages which he will probably want 18 month contract then or ship him to the rich leagues like we did James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Matt said: 18 month contract then or ship him to the rich leagues like we did James We thought we could solve Deli’s problem and neatly got burnt on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 3 minutes ago, patto said: We thought we could solve Deli’s problem and neatly got burnt on that. The Deli contract was a bit stupid in length but we'll still get a fee for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Now Aubameyang I would take a chance on if he cancels his contract simply because we are desperate for a striker Dom will probably break down at some point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 1 minute ago, Matt said: The Deli contract was a bit stupid in length but we'll still get a fee for him Why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 11 minutes ago, patto said: Why ? Because that's what agents do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 3 hours ago, StevO said: Me neither, well as I played I know he’s exceptionally talented, but nothing of his attitude. Just googled Isco attitude and found Zidane defending him. Seen loads about his attitude, slagging off zidane in the stands, getting bollocked by Ramos for his attitude, getting to the size of a house, laughing when conceding a goal. a talented player no doubt, I don’t think he’s a dyche player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 For me a big no no, he will be just another expensive has been looking for a last big pay day, and surely even our thick pricks of a board have learnt that mistake by now, haven't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 5 hours ago, patto said: Now Aubameyang I would take a chance on if he cancels his contract simply because we are desperate for a striker Dom will probably break down at some point He can’t play for a 3rd club this season - he’s already played for Barca and Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 13 hours ago, c1982 said: He can’t play for a 3rd club this season - he’s already played for Barca and Chelsea. He can if you sign him on a very short contract I’m not talking a loan deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 18 hours ago, Matt said: Because that's what agents do He’s more likely to retire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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