Elston Gunnn Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Our defense is making a mediocre Man U look world beaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 We are really bad at defending. Keane needs to sort himself out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Too soon for Holgate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, Btay said: We are really bad at defending. Keane needs to sort himself out It's Holgate's man but OK. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Elston Gunnn said: Too soon for Holgate? It’s looking like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Fucking hell. Great goal but the defending is crap. Keane and Allan not talking over marking Rashford. James leaves a 2 v 1 on Coleman who can't stop the cross and again the massive space between Keane and Holgate is exploited. I have no idea what Holgate is doing at first glance as Keane can't do anything about it. Allan let's him run too but you would expect that as the CBs aren't marking anyone. Communication problems again. Sibdane, Btay and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: It's Holgate's man but OK. Keanes no where on both. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 goals from piss poor movement and defending on our side. Btay and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 James sloppy, probably should have been another guilt edged chance for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 For Gylfi and Doucoure are slowing us down, when they receive the ball its like they haven't expected it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Btay said: Keanes no where on both. Marking the front post as he should be on both. Zoo 2.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Think this one is really showing how big a difference having no crowd makes. United incredibly short on confidence coming in, surely our noise would've rattled them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Bailey said: Marking the front post as he should be on both. And yet a 5”8 bloke has had a free header from that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Btay said: Keanes no where on both. He's marking the front post (where he should be). Holgate is the man behind and should be taking the runner, and at fault for both goals. Don't let that get in the way of your agenda though. Edit: Neither goal was scored at the front post, wtf are you talking about. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Can’t blame not having Richarlison for this. We’re not closing down enough on defense, and the midfield is giving the greatest support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Knees up mother Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, Btay said: And yet a 5”8 bloke has had a free header from that position. They have scored from the middle of the 6 yard box. Its the defender at the back post who sees the game in front of him and should be the one reacting to the danger. Zoo 2.0 and dunlopp9987 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Btay said: Got no issue with Gylfi on that one. Fernsndes was his man and he just walked off and pointed at him. I honestly don't know what he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, Zoo 2.0 said: He's marking the front post (where he should be). Holgate is the man behind and should be taking the runner, and at fault for both goals. Don't let that get in the way of your agenda though. You’re still salty from last week it seems. Didn’t have you down as a dickhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Btay said: Keanes no where on both. Defenders can see this easily mate. Central defender watching the ball and not watching runners is criminal. Holgate goes to the player behind originally and only comes across when he notices Keane is in no mans land. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, Btay said: You’re still salty from last week it seems. Didn’t have you down as a dickhead. Personal insults rather than accepting you're wrong, watch the goals back and then PM me with an apology, you armchair weirdo. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Chance from a set piece. Let’s go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Just now, Bailey said: They have scored from the middle of the 6 yard box. Its the defender at the back post who sees the game in front of him and should be the one reacting to the danger. He’s made a good run from deep so naturally going to split to the 2 CB’s. I just feel if Keane is taking up zonal from post he be more aware to cover that area. Seems he reacts late and doesn’t quite get there. I’m going off only seeing it once but that’s my initial reaction, I’ll see it again at halftime and see ✌ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Lads, I knew the goal was imminent as I'm 2 mins behind. Gylfi had Fernandez..... Then inexplicably just trotted to the man Doucoure was marking when the cross was about to be made. Daft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Personal insults rather than accepting you're wrong, watch the goals back and then PM me with an apology, you armchair weirdo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Bailey said: They have scored from the middle of the 6 yard box. Its the defender at the back post who sees the game in front of him and should be the one reacting to the danger. No mate. Surely a central defender can see there is no player on front of him, so he needs to close up? Holgate should be behind ready for a second player, or the loose ball. Defenders should always be looking at their triangles and never play solo. Keanes position was not doing anything. Just my view though. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Personal insults rather than accepting you're wrong, watch the goals back and then PM me with an apology, you armchair weirdo. I don’t think I’ve ever had a clash with anyone in this forum and think most would regard me as a respectable poster even when having differing opinions. I noticed you were a bit off last week towards me over a difference of opinion but if you want to be a dick I’ll call you a dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Poor first half sprinkled with bright moments, great goal from Bernard who looks really up for this afternoon and our left-side is looking a real threat. Keane having to hold a rusty Holgate's hand has led to us conceding two very sloppy goals, but the silver lining is that we're only a goal behind and these are shite so anything is possible. An early goal in the second half could really turn things around, but we need to CTRL, ALT, DELETE and reset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Guys can we just agree.... I’m the defending Guru around here... I’m right as always. Rest if you can all apologie and admit I’m right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Shukes said: Defenders can see this easily mate. Central defender watching the ball and not watching runners is criminal. Holgate goes to the player behind originally and only comes across when he notices Keane is in no mans land. I am a defender converted from a keeper and if you don't go to the front post in the situation and cover that area you are doing something wrong. Its one of the most important positions to get into as a defender from balls into the box. Its then the other centre back and full backs job to tuck in and cover the space. Holgate can see everything that is happening in front of him. Keane can't. Plenty others involved in what led to the goal but that one error is on Holgate and not Keane. 1 minute ago, Btay said: He’s made a good run from deep so naturally going to split to the 2 CB’s. I just feel if Keane is taking up zonal from post he be more aware to cover that area. Seems he reacts late and doesn’t quite get there. I’m going off only seeing it once but that’s my initial reaction, I’ll see it again at halftime and see ✌ Keane is there to stop any balls getting into the box at the front post. If it goes over him its the other players responsibility. The only argument against Keane would be if he was too far ahead of the front post in my opinion which I too would have to check again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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