Palfy Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 49 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: Just what you thought back in 2010 when we topped the group Obviously Qatar would've been my first pick, but England was my second. Why wouldn't I want us to go up against the side that always bottles it? If Wales get in the group you boys aren’t progressing, you need to hope it’s Scotland or Ukraine to have any chance Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 Just saying.... Strong similarities between the groups this year and in 2010. Have already been seeing English pundits basically echoing this sentiment, that England got off easy this year. Iran won't be a pushover either. Love all you Brits, but there is an arrogance when it comes to the national team, particularly when they're up against supposedly "weaker" teams, i.e. Iceland in 2016. It's the World Cup, anything can happen. Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 11 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: Just saying.... Strong similarities between the groups this year and in 2010. Have already been seeing English pundits basically echoing this sentiment, that England got off easy this year. Iran won't be a pushover either. Love all you Brits, but there is an arrogance when it comes to the national team, particularly when they're up against supposedly "weaker" teams, i.e. Iceland in 2016. It's the World Cup, anything can happen. Point taken but picture removed, content from that comic isn't allowed. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 USA will be a tricky game, the Americans will see it as a derby and be fired up, plus they're not the "soccerball, let's go team" cringe that they used to be, they're actually a really decent outfit. Given that we will be going to the World Cup the the hope to win it, I'd expect us to beat the US but would honestly stress that it won't be a walk in the park - my bet at this early stage would perhaps be a 1-0/2-1. Iran are very, very good defensively but I don't think any top team would (or should fear them). Without sounding arrogant, they will have no realistic ambitions of getting into the deep stages of the tournament and should prove little to no threat to England - given how good they are at the back I'll stick my neck out and say 2-0. Wales and Scotland will be big games just because of the inferiority complex that those two countries have to England, but Ukraine (should they make it) would be the easiest nation to face. Given how we seemed to give Scotland so much respect in the Euros (and Wales in the same tournament a few years earlier) I'd expect a draw. In a nutshell I'm made up with our group and expect us to finish 1st. That said, I don't for one second think we'll be winning 8-0 and taking the piss out of anyone. MikeO, Sibdane and dunlopp9987 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 15 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: Just saying.... Strong similarities between the groups this year and in 2010. Have already been seeing English pundits basically echoing this sentiment, that England got off easy this year. Iran won't be a pushover either. Love all you Brits, but there is an arrogance when it comes to the national team, particularly when they're up against supposedly "weaker" teams, i.e. Iceland in 2016. It's the World Cup, anything can happen. I think we saw to an extent at the Euros that these perceived "inferior" teams are a lot more organised and tactically astute than they have been for a long time. Just ask the Italians! I still think England have a lot of questions to answer at the back but they should be able to go toe for toe in attack against any side in the world. Southgate is our manager so we wont. We will try and keep it tight and hope to score one of our chances. At the Euros, I don't think England really played that well in any of the games but they did enough (I didn't see the Ukraine game). The games against Denmark, a well below-par Germany, the Czechs, Scotland and Croatia could have easily gone against us. I suspect that will be the same at the World Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 On 01/04/2022 at 18:18, Cornish Steve said: Whoohoo! Wales may get the opportunity to knock England out! They have it, well done the leek eaters. Last time they made the finals I wasn't even born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, MikeO said: They have it, well done the leek eaters. Last time they made the finals I wasn't even born. Are you sure dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 I'm thrilled to see Wales get the final spot in our group, since Ukraine looked a far better and more dangerous team. Gutted for Ukraine, but once again Zinchenko was outstanding. Get him in, please. Hafnia and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Palfy said: Are you sure My big brother wasn't born either so I'm fairly certain So wanted them to qualify when Nev, Rats and Dai van den Hauwe were playing for them but they always fell just short; they were second best for most of the game today and got a very lucky goal, but it's deserved historically. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, MikeO said: My big brother wasn't born either so I'm fairly certain So wanted them to qualify when Nev, Rats and Dai van den Hauwe were playing for them but they always fell just short; they were second best for most of the game today and got a very lucky goal, but it's deserved historically. You may find this unbelievable but neither was I. Historically on paper from the 80s through to early teens of the  2000s on paper Wales have had some great squads. As you I would have dearly loved to have seen big Nev play in the World Cup, and what a sight it would have been to see Van den hauwe sorting the Argentinians out they would have met their match against him. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 I’m ok with wales qualifying.  It will give us a bit of fire in the early games. I’ll be honest, I just don’t want Southgate managing us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 18 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: I'm thrilled to see Wales get the final spot in our group, since Ukraine looked a far better and more dangerous team. Gutted for Ukraine, but once again Zinchenko was outstanding. Get him in, please. England lack the passion of a Wales. I'm looking forward to Wales upsetting an over-confident England team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 25 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: England lack the passion of a Wales. I'm looking forward to Wales upsetting an over-confident England team. I don’t think it will happen.  Not that it couldn’t.  If Southgate grows an arse or if we get a better manager in, we could blow you away and many other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Hafnia said: I don’t think it will happen.  Not that it couldn’t.  If Southgate grows an arse or if we get a better manager in, we could blow you away and many other teams. I promise not to be too anti-England and pro-Wales, but I wanted to counter-balance the pro-England Wales-is-weak narrative.  England has a good team, if only they could instill some fire in their bellies. Wales (and Scotland) have less talent but a lot more fire. I wonder whether it's time we had a combined British team. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: England lack the passion of a Wales. I'm looking forward to Wales upsetting an over-confident England team. Now why doesn’t that surprise me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: I promise not to be too anti-England and pro-Wales, but I wanted to counter-balance the pro-England Wales-is-weak narrative.  England has a good team, if only they could instill some fire in their bellies. Wales (and Scotland) have less talent but a lot more fire. I wonder whether it's time we had a combined British team. I think we do have fire in the bellies, just a very negative manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted June 6, 2022 Report Share Posted June 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: I promise not to be too anti-England and pro-Wales, but I wanted to counter-balance the pro-England Wales-is-weak narrative. Â England has a good team, if only they could instill some fire in their bellies. Wales (and Scotland) have less talent but a lot more fire. I wonder whether it's time we had a combined British team. Fuck that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Fuck that. When you're not English, it's very interesting to see how the press report. When Andy Murray wins, he's British; when he loses, he's Scottish. When Emma Raducanu wins, she's English; when she loses, she's British. Have you ever noticed that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 7 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: When you're not English, it's very interesting to see how the press report. When Andy Murray wins, he's British; when he loses, he's Scottish. When Emma Raducanu wins, she's English; when she loses, she's British. Have you ever noticed that? I've not seen it once with Raducanu, so you'll have to show me that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 7 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: When you're not English, it's very interesting to see how the press report. When Andy Murray wins, he's British; when he loses, he's Scottish. When Emma Raducanu wins, she's English; when she loses, she's British. Have you ever noticed that? Doesn't bear scrutiny, three days ago. Surbiton Trophy: Britain's Andy Murray loses semi-final to American Denis Kudla https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/61690596 Last September. Emma Raducanu, the 18-year-old who began her campaign in qualifying as the world number 150, is the US Open champion having stormed through the tournament without dropping a set. The teenager is the first British woman to win a Grand Slam singles title since Virginia Wade's Wimbledon triumph in 1977, some 44 years ago. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/tennis/54517115#:~:text=Emma Raducanu%2C the 18-year,1977%2C some 44 years ago. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: I've not seen it once with Raducanu, so you'll have to show me that one. Because it'd be factually incorrect; her father is Romanian and her mother is Chinese and she was born in Canada. She's a British citizen having moved here with her parents when she was two, but she's not English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 Well, it's just like the press to prove me wrong when I mention the trend. I shall have to stay eagle-eyed on future reports to justify my observation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 On 06/06/2022 at 13:41, Hafnia said: I don’t think it will happen.  Not that it couldn’t.  If Southgate grows an arse or if we get a better manager in, we could blow you away and many other teams. Who would you have as an England manager? I can't come up with a name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: Who would you have as an England manager? I can't come up with a name. Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 22 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Well, it's just like the press to prove me wrong when I mention the trend. I shall have to stay eagle-eyed on future reports to justify my observation! How will you ever manage to see past that chip on your shoulder though? Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 On 07/06/2022 at 21:52, Hafnia said: Potter Do you think he would take it as this stage of his career? I agree with you though, I would love to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Bailey said: Do you think he would take it as this stage of his career? I agree with you though, I would love to see it. I think so yeah. I think we would win the World Cup with him. Can’t stand Southgate, his reaction to grealish performance was appalling. It’s as though he doesnt want him to do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 10/06/2022 at 22:53, Hafnia said: I think so yeah. I think we would win the World Cup with him. Can’t stand Southgate, his reaction to grealish performance was appalling. It’s as though he doesnt want him to do well. I certainly think we would have a much better chance. I am no fan of Southgate either. I feel like his approach is more about getting us to a certain stage of the competition rather than going and winning it. It has worked, and we almost won something but I would love to see this group of players really have a go at teams. Romey 1878, Hafnia and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 How come the Peru/Oz play-off in Qatar has a massive Peruvian crowd presence? Don't get it, is something making Peruvians super rich, or are they part of the slave labour who've built the stadiums? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 As an aside, I've seen better games than that in Sunday league. Hope Oz win the shoot-out, but that's really TC loyalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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