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1 hour ago, MikeO said:

Some will no doubt dismiss this as virtue signalling, but in my opinion, kudos to Denmark and Hummel.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/6306639

The world is full of new funky ideas of letting people know you are offended whilst essentially allowing the perpetrators carry on as they are. Actually very smart marketing by hummel, if Gareth Southgate was a logo he would be a double chevron.   buy it here…
https://www.unisportstore.com/football-shirts/denmark-home-shirt-world-cup-2022/259148/?dfw=4068&feed=10916&utm_source=Tradetracker&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=RedBrain#/
 

I missed the bit when looking at the £80 cost where they declare they will be giving a large cut of the profits to the families of deceased workers.  Hmmmm, that’s odd.  It’s also odd that china produce 30% of Hummel stuff…. Not sure they have their human rights radar fully engaged. 

I'm sure Qatar are gonna be licking their wounds, fans are gonna be stuck in overpriced limited hotels, drinking water and watching the most outrageously awarded World Cup in history.  
 

the next time fifa are considering a multi million pound bundle of brown envelopes I’m not sure they are gonna be thinking twice cos a team make a monotone shirt.  I’m waiting for Brazil to announce Bananas are banned from the team hotel in respect of Richarlison… 

 

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22 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said:

It is a bit late for the loud voices with seven weeks to go. 

Hilarious isn’t it.  Hummel giving it the big one, the kit they played in vs England in the Euros was practically the same! Very much one colour with logos and crest barely visible. Complete and utter bullshit. 
 

I’m all for human rights, I’m also against having my intelligence insulted by opportunistic virtue signallers who fail to look at themselves enough whilst judging others. Got an issue with the World Cup? Pull out or stfu, stop trying to play the good guy when you are lining your pockets from the event. That goes for mr Southgate and Kane too. 
 

Faking integrity for personal gain is one of the toughest things to do cos you have to be prepared to do something that costs you.  Muhammad Ali was a hero for good reason. Pity he isn’t still with us cos he would be calling out half the bullshit we see. 
 

I’ll watch the World Cup, just like I’ll watch Everton despite being sponsored by stake, I’m just not gonna try and pretend I’m overly disgusted just to make people think “Ah yeah he’s nice”. I like footy, it’s a release and I’m annoyed that those in control of it have no morals cos I would like to feel good about how it’s provided and not feel compromised. 

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How insulting is this? "Just show up and play football; no politics."

Sure. Let's ignore the thousands of migrant workers killed or the denial of many human rights to gays or the unfair treatment of women. Let's just sweep it under the carpet and all enjoy ourselves.

All credit to the Danish team for being so vocal in their support of basic human freedoms.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63506951

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I wasn't going to mention this because I didn't want to come across as someone who was looking to be superior by taking the moral high ground, but this statement from FIFA has enraged me to speak out and not stay quiet for fear of my own personal image. I had decided a long time ago that I wasn't going to watch any of the World Cup, for me personally I felt it wouldn't be supporting football, football has been sold to highest bidder no matter what or who they are, for me to support this competition would be to support Qatar and it's disgusting regime, and to condone FIFA for it's decision to give them the event. I hope there are millions like me around the world who use their power to switch off as a message that we do see and we do care. Many people do care about injustices to humanity, but feel unable to do anything that will send a message that can be seen, for me the only good that can come out of this unsavoury situation is that, all people who disagree with what is happening have been given a voice to protest by not watching the tournament, that will be seen and quantified and questioned if this tournament becomes a failure due to the power of the supporter. Personally I hope it's the biggest flop in the history of sporting events ever and not a success.  

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6 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

How insulting is this? "Just show up and play football; no politics."

Sure. Let's ignore the thousands of migrant workers killed or the denial of many human rights to gays or the unfair treatment of women. Let's just sweep it under the carpet and all enjoy ourselves.

All credit to the Danish team for being so vocal in their support of basic human freedoms.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63506951

Indeed. I'll be boycotting it all again, which is a shame because it's a fun atmosphere when the international tournaments are on (or it is in Europe at least).

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1 hour ago, Matt said:

Indeed. I'll be boycotting it all again, which is a shame because it's a fun atmosphere when the international tournaments are on (or it is in Europe at least).

Very much doubt it will be this time. Not just because of where it is but also because of when it is.

There's no build up to the tournament whatsoever like you get with a summer World Cup, you're going straight from domestic football into the tournament. Usually you'll get a few weeks between the two, which means people can switch focus and the excitement can build.

Also, with the immediate start and end of the domestic stuff into the World Cup will mean that more players than usual are going to miss out on the World Cup due to injury. That's not to say players don't miss major tournaments when they're held in the summer but at least they have some time to recover. With this one you're going to have players that have simple two week injuries and they're missing a major tournament. That's ridiculous.

Their whole bid was predicated on it being capable of being held in the summer. That was a fucking lie cooked up between Qatar and FIFA knowing that they'd lose the vote otherwise, and once it was awarded to them they could then change it to the winter and people would have to go along with it. Money and corruption is 100% behind this World Cup.

I hope this tournament is an abject failure so that FIFA aren't tempted to hold another winter World Cup ever again.

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I'm quite surprised that Southgate has gone with Maguire and Henderson, even while claiming that others are left out because of poor form. And Maguire is not in poor form? It's nice to see Coady in the squad, but Tarkowski deserves to be as well. Personally, I think England's midfield is its Achilles Heel; midfield is usually where games are won and lost.

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On 10/11/2022 at 14:51, Cornish Steve said:

I'm quite surprised that Southgate has gone with Maguire and Henderson, even while claiming that others are left out because of poor form. And Maguire is not in poor form? It's nice to see Coady in the squad, but Tarkowski deserves to be as well. Personally, I think England's midfield is its Achilles Heel; midfield is usually where games are won and lost.

I’m not surprised, got his favourites and “Hendo” and maguire are his boys. 
 

The bloke from Newcastle and Tarkowski should be way ahead of maguire 

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11 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said:

I can't get excited about the corrupt WC. Should be in summer with bbq in garden/drinks at the pub. Will keep an eye on England for Jordan and Conor also Senegal and Belgium for Gueye and Onana. Won't go out of my way to watch games. 

Feel the same.

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Boycotts are a tricky subject, especially when it comes to business. I'm so grateful to corporations that stand up for what's right and publicly protest against rogue practices and regimes; however, it's not easy to decide when and how far to go, and someone's always quick to criticize either way. If I had the means to attend the World Cup, I probably would in most countries, but I would most likely choose to avoid countries with such a poor record on human rights as Qatar. So was I right to travel to Vietnam on business, or Venezuela? What about Cuba? I've not yet chosen to avoid a country for business travel, but leisure travel is different.

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On 15/11/2022 at 15:00, Cornish Steve said:

Boycotts are a tricky subject, especially when it comes to business. I'm so grateful to corporations that stand up for what's right and publicly protest against rogue practices and regimes; however, it's not easy to decide when and how far to go, and someone's always quick to criticize either way. If I had the means to attend the World Cup, I probably would in most countries, but I would most likely choose to avoid countries with such a poor record on human rights as Qatar. So was I right to travel to Vietnam on business, or Venezuela? What about Cuba? I've not yet chosen to avoid a country for business travel, but leisure travel is different.

It's not always a country though, the more I think about it the more I think I'm just going to boycott any fifa event just because of the evil that is fifa. 

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On 16/11/2022 at 18:49, Matt said:

It's not always a country though, the more I think about it the more I think I'm just going to boycott any fifa event just because of the evil that is fifa. 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/world-cup-qataris-want-complete-stadium-beer-ban-f5bcjprqh

This is the shit I mean, they did something similar in Brazil. No matter your views on their (Qatar) customs, its disgusting that fifa do this. You can't force change, you educate and debate. You sure as shit can't disrespect an entire culture to sell beer. 

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33 minutes ago, Matt said:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/world-cup-qataris-want-complete-stadium-beer-ban-f5bcjprqh

This is the shit I mean, they did something similar in Brazil. No matter your views on their (Qatar) customs, its disgusting that fifa do this. You can't force change, you educate and debate. You sure as shit can't disrespect an entire culture to sell beer. 

On the bright side, a Budweiser ban would save people from having to drink the dishwater.

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4 hours ago, Matt said:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/world-cup-qataris-want-complete-stadium-beer-ban-f5bcjprqh

This is the shit I mean, they did something similar in Brazil. No matter your views on their (Qatar) customs, its disgusting that fifa do this. You can't force change, you educate and debate. You sure as shit can't disrespect an entire culture to sell beer. 

So what are the odds that England fans will respect a beer ban?

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4 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

So what are the odds that England fans will respect a beer ban?

I expect with jail sentences for those that do drink... lol, who am I kidding. Those stadium's will be converted to prisons to store all the drunkards. 

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There's an article on the BBC Sports site about the Welsh team and uniqueness of Welsh fans, the importance of the Welsh language, and how important to the Welsh is this distinctiveness. It made me remember how, before many national sports games, the Welsh fans sing hymns at full volume. How is that going to go down in Qatar, I wonder? Will there be a ban on singing hymns?

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Corruption rife already, nothing wrong with that goal from Ecuador.

Edit: 2-0 to Ecuador at half time, Valencia with a brace so should have had a first half hat-trick. Qatar are absolutely abysmal and wouldn't look out of place in League Two or even the National League, they're second to everything and so off the pace with an erratic 'keeper for good measure. Wouldn't surprise me if they fail to score in this tournament which would be exactly what they deserve.

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1 hour ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

Corruption rife already, nothing wrong with that goal from Ecuador.

Edit: 2-0 to Ecuador at half time, Valencia with a brace so should have had a first half hat-trick. Qatar are absolutely abysmal and wouldn't look out of place in League Two or even the National League, they're second to everything and so off the pace with an erratic 'keeper for good measure. Wouldn't surprise me if they fail to score in this tournament which would be exactly what they deserve.

It's not the players fault. Their country should never have been the host, thus they shouldn't be playing in this tournament, so you have to sort of feel for them.

And the disallowed goal didn't really have anything to do with corruption. With the fancy new technology, his leg was shown to be offside. Do I agree with the call? Absolutely not, 90% of his body was onside. But we will probably see many more of those types of calls over the coming weeks, so I don't see any corruption in it. 

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4 minutes ago, Tonsta said:

If Kane does not wear it, it will send out the message we weren't that bothered about it.

Fifa have known for a long time what we had in mind and said nothing till 24 hours before the game.

One man does not run world football, tell him to do one, and wear it, pass it pound the team and all take a booking, its only one game, make them change dont back down.

No battle was ever won without sacrifice. Infantino has shown with his rants he is a clueless bully.  

If the ref's had anything about them they'd refuse to give the booking out too. It's absolutely ridiculous.

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1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said:

If he does wear it, does he get the booking and have to take it off, or can he keep it on?

I absolutely think he should go out wearing it. The pictures will go all round the world. It's a massive statement.

Not that he's looking for it, but Kane would achieve iconic status. It would also embarrass FIFA - no bad thing. Utterly corrupt organisation.

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I don't understand the 7 countries that have buckled to Infantino, and his corrupt group, at the threat of a yellow card, not decapitation, a yellow card.

Take it, after all the fuss afterwards they would have to back down or lose there tournament, and if it carries on make someone else captain in the next game.

We are playing Iran, not Brazil, this is so spineless, and i can only apologise to those who have campaigned for so long to put things right.

Whatever the FA come out with they have sold us all down the river, at the threat of a yellow card, they have disgraced them selves and us.

 

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31 minutes ago, Tonsta said:

I don't understand the 7 countries that have buckled to Infantino, and his corrupt group, at the threat of a yellow card, not decapitation, a yellow card.

Take it, after all the fuss afterwards they would have to back down or lose there tournament, and if it carries on make someone else captain in the next game.

We are playing Iran, not Brazil, this is so spineless, and i can only apologise to those who have campaigned for so long to put things right.

Whatever the FA come out with they have sold us all down the river, at the threat of a yellow card, they have disgraced them selves and us.

 

Agree with all this. Right now is the time to stand up to FIFA, not back down. The yellow card means nothing; its significance, everything.  

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What a strange thing to have to change the lyrics to your national anthem depending on who is currently leading an outdated and archaic monarchy. Saw a few players say Queen. 

All due to respect to you friends here, but I'll be rooting for Iran here. Not for sporting reasons, but for what I saw during their national anthem. Iranians weeping in the crowd, stern defiance on the players faces and not one singing of the anthem.

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