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Just now, Cornish Steve said:

There's a common theme to this summer's recruits: They all genuinely seem to want to be here. That's not been evident from some current players on the pitch, so it's a healthy thing to see.

Well when you consider the clubs they're from, they should be. Everton is the biggest club these players will have played for, and it doesn't get much bigger than us unless it's BARCA/REAL/PSG/etc.

 

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2 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

There's a common theme to this summer's recruits: They all genuinely seem to want to be here. That's not been evident from some current players on the pitch, so it's a healthy thing to see.

When you bring in players who so obviously aren't good enough they do tend to thank their lucky stripes for an opportunity to showcase that fact while getting good money ;).

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1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said:

When you bring in players who so obviously aren't good enough they do tend to thank their lucky stripes for an opportunity to showcase that fact while getting good money ;).

I'd rather them thank their luck stars, but whatever. 

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8 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Turns out the rich owner we all wished for brought us nothing different than what we already had.  Moshiri will be a winner because of Bramley Moore, sadly he still has a ton of work to do on the pitch to be revered.

 

while moshri hasn't taken us to the promised land we had hoped for, to say that we don't have anything better than what we had before is laughable. 
 

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Debt is not a bad thing. Well-run companies utilize debt, and it's usually a positive when publishing financial results. It doesn't sound like our debt is crippling.

More relevant to Everton right now are the FFP rules. Poor decisions by previous managers (and I mean managers, not DoF) continue to bite us. Koeman spent very unwisely. Crooked Sam is responsible for other awful decisions. We have no option but to live with them, unfortunately.

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6 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

Debt is not a bad thing. Well-run companies utilize debt, and it's usually a positive when publishing financial results. It doesn't sound like our debt is crippling.

It wouldn’t be a positive if you were a shareholder looking for a decent dividend. 

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30 minutes ago, Palfy said:

It wouldn’t be a positive if you were a shareholder looking for a decent dividend. 

If you’re looking for a dividend don’t invest in a football club. 
 

Debt on the balance sheet doesn’t have to mean no profit and no dividend though. 

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43 minutes ago, Palfy said:

It wouldn’t be a positive if you were a shareholder looking for a decent dividend. 

Sure it would. A debt/equity ratio of zero is generally not good financial management. A 50:50 ratio is just fine, even in the football business. MUFC's ratio hovers around 1.23, for example.

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5 hours ago, StevO said:

If you’re looking for a dividend don’t invest in a football club. 
 

Debt on the balance sheet doesn’t have to mean no profit and no dividend though. 

Steve wasn’t talking solely about football clubs he was talking about all companies. 

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21 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

You’re right we blew 200m so we have that debt

We don’t have 200M of debt either.

You can’t look at debt on the balance sheet in isolation without comparing it to what you are also owed. Net Liabilities would be one way to look at it…that is if you didn’t want to take assets into account. 

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1 minute ago, Matt said:

Just for anyone who doesn't understand that debt isn't necessarily bad, here's Nestles total debt; $40b. 

https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/NSRGY/financials

 

Yet they're considered one of the most profitable and successful companies around. 🤔

My dad's first job after he finished National Service in the early fifties was for Nestlé, pleased to see they recovered😂

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1 hour ago, Matt said:

Just for anyone who doesn't understand that debt isn't necessarily bad, here's Nestles total debt; $40b. 

https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/NSRGY/financials

 

Yet they're considered one of the most profitable and successful companies around. 🤔

Awful company gobbling up natural resources (water) and destroying nature and communities for money. 

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28 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

Awful company gobbling up natural resources (water) and destroying nature and communities for money. 

Aaah, that old chestnut. Not true but anyway, point was to show that having a lot of debt does not equate poor, nor is it a bad thing. 

Just curious,  which big company isn't an evil planet destroying force that I can look up the debt of?

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1 hour ago, Matt said:

Aaah, that old chestnut. Not true but anyway, point was to show that having a lot of debt does not equate poor, nor is it a bad thing. 

Just curious,  which big company isn't an evil planet destroying force that I can look up the debt of?

its 100% true, they destroyed a massive land preserve in michigan.  the government wouldn't sell them the land so they bought land next to it and sucked all the water out of the ground, preserve is a wasteland now.  to your point of big corporations yes i agree they are all evil, i'm not a capitalist.

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You couldn’t pick a worse company in the world as a shining example of a good business, unless you are a hardened capitalist who puts profits be for lives. Please read ZME Science report on why Nestle is one of the the most hated companies in the world, it cannot bear to shock you unless you are a raving capitalist or arsehole, great example of companies with huge debt operate to keep shareholders happy and the company afloat. 
zmescience.com search for why is Nestle one of the most hated companies in the world.  

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1 hour ago, Palfy said:

You couldn’t pick a worse company in the world as a shining example of a good business, unless you are a hardened capitalist who puts profits be for lives. Please read ZME Science report on why Nestle is one of the the most hated companies in the world, it cannot bear to shock you unless you are a raving capitalist or arsehole, great example of companies with huge debt operate to keep shareholders happy and the company afloat. 
zmescience.com search for why is Nestle one of the most hated companies in the world.  

But have you had a cookies and cream milkybar? You can’t hate the guys who make that, you just can’t! 😂

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I get the feeling we are just clearing out the deadwood to make room on the wage bill before making at least one big signing

Im still hopeful ( yes I know that’s what kills you!) of this being a good window for us

 

Basie,Besic,Walcott and Bernard already gone and rumours of exits for Gomes, Tosun, Delph (🙏🙏🙏) and James ( hope not) leaving should surely give us some wriggle room with FFP?

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3 hours ago, StevO said:

But have you had a cookies and cream milkybar? You can’t hate the guys who make that, you just can’t! 😂

No, but I do like Cadbury’s milk chocolate and the bastards bought them out, is nothing sacred anymore😩

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58 minutes ago, Palfy said:

No, but I do like Cadbury’s milk chocolate and the bastards bought them out, is nothing sacred anymore😩

I thought Kraft bought Cadbury’s? 
This is making me hungry. 

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8 hours ago, Palfy said:

You couldn’t pick a worse company in the world as a shining example of a good business, unless you are a hardened capitalist who puts profits be for lives. Please read ZME Science report on why Nestle is one of the the most hated companies in the world, it cannot bear to shock you unless you are a raving capitalist or arsehole, great example of companies with huge debt operate to keep shareholders happy and the company afloat. 
zmescience.com search for why is Nestle one of the most hated companies in the world.  

Wow that article is unbalanced :lol: 

But that wasnt the point. My point was that debt isn't necessarily a bad thing in big business. If you have any examples of a ethical, for-profit company, I'll check the debts of them too. But end of the day, debt does not necessarily mean bad. Simple as that. 

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Encouraged by the 3 signings for a net spend of 1.5 million. Whether we like it or not we have to assume we're done signing wingers so our only major hole left to fill is RB. While most of us expect Kean gone, he's the backup ST we need until he officially leaves. 

GK: Pickford Begovic J Virginia
RB: Coleman Kenny
CB: Godfrey Keane Mina Holgate Branthwaite
LB: Digne Nkounkou
CM: Allan Doucoure Delph Gomes Gbamin Davies
Wingers: Richarlison Gray Iwobi Gordon Townsend 
No10: James Siggy
ST: DCL Kean Tosun

Perfect world: buy Dumfries or Aarons, buy Kouliabaly or Lenglet, buy McNeil or Saint-Maximin, buy backup ST. Sell Keane Delph Gomes Iwobi Kean Tosun. Loan J Virginia Kenny Branthwaite Gordon. 

Minimum: buy Dumfries or Aarons. Sell Delph Iwobi Tosun. Loan J Virginia Kenny Branthwaite Gordon. 

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Well it's not going well so far is it? Gray and Townsend whilst Villa sign Buendia and probably Bailey. These are the players we should be going for. It's difficult to have any hope of achieving anything this season. It's been a bit embarrassing from the minute Ancelotti left really with obvious things out of the club's control but nevertheless many things fully in the club's control.

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I don’t think it’s anywhere near as bad as you think.

Goalkeeper cover, which was needed.

winger that can cross, which we were desperate for.

An option for a 10 that was fast and tricky, and can also easily play on a wing. 
 

I honestly don’t think we’re that far away.

As for Bailey. Is he any good?

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1 hour ago, MikeO said:

Think he sometimes posts some sense, but inconsistent for me, needs to work on his prose.

How long have you been waiting for the opportunity to crack that one ? 😂

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53 minutes ago, MikeO said:

July 3rd Leon Bailey thread started so probably since July 4th, just needed a "straight man" to feed me the line and Shukes obliged:P

Morecambe and Wise comes to mind, now I’ve got this image of Shukes being short fat with hairy legs and a stirrup😂

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6 hours ago, Aidan said:

Well it's not going well so far is it? Gray and Townsend whilst Villa sign Buendia and probably Bailey. These are the players we should be going for. It's difficult to have any hope of achieving anything this season. It's been a bit embarrassing from the minute Ancelotti left really with obvious things out of the club's control but nevertheless many things fully in the club's control.

Villa are selling Grealish and have probably known that all summer. If we knew that we were selling say Richarlison then I am sure you'd see more of what you expect.

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8 hours ago, Goodison Glory said:

Villa are selling Grealish and have probably known that all summer. If we knew that we were selling say Richarlison then I am sure you'd see more of what you expect.

 

57 minutes ago, Aidan said:

Like when we sold Lukaku? I honestly don't believe that.

We'd have waited until the player was sold and everyone knew we were flush with money before doing any business. Because, Everton.

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On 31/07/2021 at 19:18, MikeO said:

Think he sometimes posts some sense, but inconsistent for me, needs to work on his prose.

🤣

I am slightly received we haven't signed him.

I would start getting a complex when people post that Bailey has no stamina, is bad in the box and keeps missing the target! 

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13 hours ago, Bailey said:

 

🤣

I am slightly received we haven't signed him.

I would start getting a complex when people post that Bailey has no stamina, is bad in the box and keeps missing the target! 

Tactically, I’d like to see Bailey come inside his man and get balls deep into the box.

 

what….

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On 22/07/2021 at 12:48, Matt said:

Just for anyone who doesn't understand that debt isn't necessarily bad, here's Nestles total debt; $40b. 

https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/NSRGY/financials

 

Yet they're considered one of the most profitable and successful companies around. 🤔

Plus they are headquartered in one of the most beautiful sounding places on earth: Vevey. I remember staying in Villeneuve for a week and attending a conference daily in Geneve. The conductor on the train both ways was a woman, and she spoke the name Vevey in a most sensuous way!

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14 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

Plus they are headquartered in one of the most beautiful sounding places on earth: Vevey. I remember staying in Villeneuve for a week and attending a conference daily in Geneve. The conductor on the train both ways was a woman, and she spoke the name Vevey in a most sensuous way!

My old home :crying:

 

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