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Allan makes a huge difference when on the pitch. Absolutely can’t wait to get Doucouré back too. 

If it stays 2-2 it will feel like 2 points dropped. Such a good attacking performance thats let down  by 2 horrible moments of defending.

So disappointing and so unsurprising. Wasn’t sure we could put anything together without DCL but we thoroughly outclassed them in attack. Sigurdsson and James both excellent. Allan the absolute difference maker. We better not give a second thought to re-signing King. Keane absolutely terrible tonight and the reason we lost 2 points that we deserved.

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I'm also wondering if it was Mina or Godfrey next to Keane and not Holgate, if Keane would've made those mistakes. I'm not trying to excuse them, because that was a horror-show for Michael, but he's usually much more solid back there and wondering if that was part of the issue. 

Basically I want Holgate gone haha

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4 minutes ago, Tonsta said:

I have Keane & Mina

Haha between Keane and Mina, Keane is too soft and Mina simply isn’t good in the air. 
We need a dominant centre half who can command an area. Has Dave Watson retired?

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4 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Haha between Keane and Mina, Keane is too soft and Mina simply isn’t good in the air. 
We need a dominant centre half who can command an area. Has Dave Watson retired?

Once we get a solid replacement for Coleman, I think Godfrey will grow into that dominant CB. Max Aarons should be top priority this summer.

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20 minutes ago, nyblue23 said:

Once we get a solid replacement for Coleman, I think Godfrey will grow into that dominant CB. Max Aarons should be top priority this summer.

I’d be keeping Coleman in and around the squad however. Aarons in and Godfrey to CB with a Koulibaly type signing is huge.

Too many times this season I feel players have gone into the changing room with an apology for mistakes  dropping points instead of a celebration for moments picking up points. 

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Just now, Btay said:

I’d be keeping Coleman in and around the squad however. Aarons in and Godfrey to CB with a Koulibaly type signing is huge.

Too many times this season I feel players have gone into the changing room with an apology for mistakes  dropping points instead of a celebration for moments picking up points. 

Absolutely. I'll be a Coleman apologist until the day I die. Love the man but his legs aren't what they once were. I think he'll be best as an impact sub like he was today. He's truly the only player around the team besides Godfrey who shows absolutely consistent desire and effort. DCL is close to that level, but I'm not sure he knows how to stay involved when things aren't going his way. And Richy has the desire but starts slouching when things don't go his way. A couple others could get honorable mentions in that category (Allan/Mina), but we have far too many who show up some days just looking like they wished they were anywhere else.

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2 minutes ago, Btay said:

I’d be keeping Coleman in and around the squad however.

Without question. Digne had Baines as back-up when he first joined. In reality, we should have signed a right-back last summer as we look much better with Coleman (and others) in the team.

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That was by far the best game I have seen from us for a long time. That period after we scored to on or around their 2nd goal was much more like it. We had control of the ball and we were pressing much more aggresively. 

Davies had his best game for a while. I thought he was going to have a stinker in those first 30 minutes but he played really well after that. Him and Allan always just seemed to get their foot in. It was good to see the latter back in the side too. He too started slow but got better and better. 

James was the star of the show though. I have questioned his attitude but there was nothing wrong with it today. He more than rose to then occasion. Godfrey had an excellent game too and Coleman's cameo was a breath of fresh air compared to the directionless performance from Iwobi. Siggy showed moments of quality too, that goal was outstanding. 

Keane and Holgate were unquestionably the let downs. The former had his worst game for a long time. Richarlison was a massive let down again too. He worked his socks off and did all the right things until it came to that final moment. When James gets the ball its like time slows down but with Richarlison it goes into fast forward. 

There was a point when I really thought this game could be a catalyst but that goal took the wind out of the moment. Spurs are a terribly managed side who cant tell their arse from their elbow so we can definitely beat them to 7th. The Arsenal game could be a big one.

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Everton, that.

We turn up for a change and then shoot ourselves in the foot. So much so, that it feels more like a loss. Another disappointing thing about it is that we only played in patches but when we did play we looked really good. Which makes you wonder why we don't play for a full game. Why it took us going behind to actually push and impose ourselves on the game. We need to be less passive in games and take control.

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6 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

Everton, that.

We turn up for a change and then shoot ourselves in the foot.

I don’t follow other teams in the EPL closely enough to have any idea whether some of them match us in demonstrating such a variety of dismayingly “creative” ways to drop points.

Today was maddening.  One would have thought that after the embarrassing miscommunication between Keane and Holgate that caused the first Spurs’ goal, that Ancelotti would have pointedly reminded them to be alert, yell at each other, get on the same bloody page.  That they’d have talked constantly with each other for the remainder of the match.  Yet the second goal looked equally, even identically, the product of an utter failure to play in synch as CH’s.  They just looked stupid.

Yet another deflating variety of bumbling mental and physical torpor.

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2 hours ago, Elston Gunnn said:

I don’t follow other teams in the EPL closely enough to have any idea whether some of them match us in demonstrating such a variety of dismayingly “creative” ways to drop points.

Today was maddening.  One would have thought that after the embarrassing miscommunication between Keane and Holgate that caused the first Spurs’ goal, that Ancelotti would have pointedly reminded them to be alert, yell at each other, get on the same bloody page.  That they’d have talked constantly with each other for the remainder of the match.  Yet the second goal looked equally, even identically, the product of an utter failure to play in synch as CH’s.  They just looked stupid.

Yet another deflating variety of bumbling mental and physical torpor.

I've said it many times but we have some of the most unintelligent players that you will find. By intelligence, I mean footballing intelligence. It has me tearing my hair out watching us. Take Iwobi for an example - he looks utterly clueless as to what to do when he gets the ball and just puts his head down and goes, and then invariably just fucking runs into an opposition player. Players passing to their team mates when you can clearly see before the pass that you're playing them into trouble. The examples you listed from last night - doing the same things without learning from them, but they'd swapped roles for who fucked it up.

Having James here has just exacerbated my frustration with this team because he demonstrates footballing intelligence in bucketful's. 

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2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

Take Iwobi for an example - he looks utterly clueless as to what to do when he gets the ball and just puts his head down and goes, and then invariably just fucking runs into an opposition player.

Channeling his inner Dan Gosling that.

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20 hours ago, Bailey said:

That was by far the best game I have seen from us for a long time. That period after we scored to on or around their 2nd goal was much more like it. We had control of the ball and we were pressing much more aggresively. 

Davies had his best game for a while. I thought he was going to have a stinker in those first 30 minutes but he played really well after that. Him and Allan always just seemed to get their foot in. It was good to see the latter back in the side too. He too started slow but got better and better. 

James was the star of the show though. I have questioned his attitude but there was nothing wrong with it today. He more than rose to then occasion. Godfrey had an excellent game too and Coleman's cameo was a breath of fresh air compared to the directionless performance from Iwobi. Siggy showed moments of quality too, that goal was outstanding. 

Keane and Holgate were unquestionably the let downs. The former had his worst game for a long time. Richarlison was a massive let down again too. He worked his socks off and did all the right things until it came to that final moment. When James gets the ball its like time slows down but with Richarlison it goes into fast forward. 

There was a point when I really thought this game could be a catalyst but that goal took the wind out of the moment. Spurs are a terribly managed side who cant tell their arse from their elbow so we can definitely beat them to 7th. The Arsenal game could be a big one.

But we couldn't beat them on the night.

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1 hour ago, Palfy said:

Unfortunately it’s hard to legislate for 2 comical moments like that, especially from one of the improved players this season. 

As much as Keane was at fault, I always feel like we look really uncomfortable defending whenever Holgate is on the field (either RB or CB).

Hopefully next season, with a new RB & cover for LB, Keane and Godfrey can make a good partnership in centre defence for us. Godfrey has the potential to be a world class in that position. We've really lucked out on him as there isn’t many quality CBs to go around at the minute. Thank god Gabriel turned us down for Arsenal.

On that note - it's difficult to pick between James and Godfrey for player of the season for me. I think Godfrey just edges it with the games James has missed. Such an important player for us already and so versatile. 

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Kane has moved up a notch with his finishing and all-round play.  

However if spurs box clever they should go for a kane greenwood swap and get cash plus a future world class player for someone who looks like injuries may hamper his final peak years. 

Id deffo try a cheeky DCL swap for greenwood - his ceiling is far higher than Doms

 

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