RuffRob Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 Give the magnitude of backlash so far, from fans up to governments, I can't now see this taking off. But even if it does go away at the very least I would like to see these 12 clubs punished in some way. Even if they can't be docked points or be banned, maybe dump that new CL set up where teams can qualify based on so coefficient based on past performances, that pretty much is just an advantage for these 12 team already - they just want even more, greedy bastards!!! Matt and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted April 20, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 https://www.football365.com/news/florentino-perez-real-madrid-european-super-league-save-football He seems to think that 'football' is just these elite clubs, because it's those clubs he's wanting to 'save'. They've overspent for years and years (his club more than most with all that Galacticos shite) and now that shit is biting them on the arse because the pandemic has taken away any safety net they had with the banks etc. And with these sides also now not being guaranteed the riches of the CL due to other sides challenging they have absolutely shit their pants. They don't want to save football, they want to kill the rest in order to save themselves. pete0, dunlopp9987, Matt and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt Posted April 20, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 Dear Matt, I feel it is only right that, as CEO of your football club, I write to you directly following the plans made public over the weekend for a European Super League. As a proud custodian of Everton, I, along with my fellow board members, understand the responsibility that has been entrusted upon us to maintain the traditions of your Club and of the wider game. Everton Football Club was a founder member of the Football League and a founder member of the Premier League. Throughout our history the Club has always strived to move both Everton and the game forward. But we have always done so within the parameters of the pyramid structure which maintains the principles of open competition and sporting merit. Sadly, the plans that have been made public by 12 clubs from across Europe - and six in our own Premier League - do not maintain those principles. At this time of national crisis - in the face of a global pandemic and in a defining period for football - clubs should be working together collaboratively with the thoughts of our game and its supporters uppermost in our minds. Disenfranchising supporters across the game and undermining the very structure of the pyramid that underpins the game we love is, quite simply, wrong. The response from voices across the game and beyond over the last 48 hours is understandable – and those voices should be listened to. Rest assured, I, along with my fellow board members, will do everything possible to ensure our position on these proposals is made in the strongest possible terms - and the voice of Evertonians is heard, loud and clear. It remains our hope that by working collaboratively, football will find the right answer for its future. NSNO. Denise StevO, Shukes, Sibdane and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2111866/statement-from-the-board?fbclid=IwAR3WFiww4vvUcytAn8ZkKIMK5Ugj6_NQYwprv0iiKrRfJl8cuxxMwI4w2LQ A strong response from Everton - makes you feel proud. They are not mincing their words about the clubs thoughts on the self proclaimed six. Shukes, markjazzbassist, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 If only the other clubs had CEO’s with this much integrity. We wouldn’t even be having this conversation. Edit; and with the statement from the board, brilliant. Strong words first. Strong actions needed next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 52 minutes ago, RuffRob said: https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2111866/statement-from-the-board?fbclid=IwAR3WFiww4vvUcytAn8ZkKIMK5Ugj6_NQYwprv0iiKrRfJl8cuxxMwI4w2LQ A strong response from Everton - makes you feel proud. They are not mincing their words about the clubs thoughts on the self proclaimed six. Ooooh that is beautifully written Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 Come on Louis, I mean @MikeO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, Matt said: Come on Louis, I mean @MikeO Deleted thirty seconds after I posted it, you were bloody quick off the mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, MikeO said: Deleted thirty seconds after I posted it, you were bloody quick off the mark I'm a good mod, always on the ball.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56813819 Apparently Everton have led the way in doing the right thing yet again Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 I think from the tone of the Everton statement - there will be a strong collective response from the PL clubs following the meeting of the remaining 14.They know they have pretty much everybody's support behind them. Together, they have enough votes to carry PL notions through, they do not need any of the top six teams at the table to make changes the 14 see fit. When it comes to the PL (in which the top 6 will still want to remain) the remaining 14 are far more powerful than the 6. The 14 have just become a lot more galvanised against them. Spanish and Italians Leagues are not going to take this lying down either - the teams involvement in a super league from one of the country will flinch and bottle it, and it all then crumbles. Governments, never mind the FA or PL (and there foreign equivalents) will get involved in what is now looking like national outcry against what is happening to their national game. My hope is now that all this massively backfires on these greedy 'owners' of the 12 and reforms will be brought in. Everybody seems united in standing up against them!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 No disqualifications CL semi finals to go a head, that is weak and playing into their hands, ffs that is annoying this is the chance to show they mean business and the have bottled it, actions speak louder than words and their actions are weak, crack on super league, the rest of the associations are weak cunts. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 Be great if the league had big enough bollocks and kicks them out and bans their owners from buying any other clubs. Apart from Man city none of them would be a great loss football wise, the other 5 wouldn't even be top 6 half the time it only for referees bias. The league would be more competitive and less corrupt without them. Let them create their own league and when it goes to pot force them to start from the bottom. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 https://www.facebook.com/BBCArchive/videos/205450487735197/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 hours ago, StevO said: Strong actions needed next. Going forward, this the only thing that will count. StevO and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 I just wish Moshiri wasn’t sucked in to interviews like this mornings with his buddy Jim White. I thought the statement the club put out was perfect and that should have been left as that. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, barryj said: I just wish Moshiri wasn’t sucked in to interviews like this mornings with his buddy Jim White. I thought the statement the club put out was perfect and that should have been left as that. Oh no, did he really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pete0 Posted April 20, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 https://www.grandoldteam.com/2021/04/20/farhad-moshiri-on-european-super-league/?fbclid=IwAR0IswAGvTEZCXdv7S4t4RVKvXo2fSQDj58BIuQlnNsKvXnVNMNHjzqfojA Farhad Moshiri has condemned the European Super League as “not football anymore” and called on the Premier League to deduct points from the clubs involved. Speaking with talkSPORT, Everton’s majority shareholder said: “Never, never [On whether Everton would join the European Super League if invited]. “Every facet of it is against the very idea of British football. Football clubs are community assets. They belong to fans and their communities. “This just takes the romance of football away. You want to see Liverpool and Everton play. It’s something which makes the game just a money game. It’s not football anymore. “I think the Premier League should deduct points from these clubs. This is six clubs attacking the very heart of the Premier League and I think they should be disciplined. That’s what I would do. They should have discussed it with the Premier League – they should have received a consensus. It’s a system that has worked for many years. The Champions League is the super league. “The Premier League need to discipline clubs. The Premier League has a constitution. They need to treat powerful clubs as severely as poorer clubs “I think football is about competition – when you watch West Brom beat Chelsea – this is football. Every club can outperform. On Saturday, 11 players against 11 players. A club like Leeds can go down and come back and draw with Liverpool, this is football. To deprive this competition, devalues the game.” Quinn31, Matt, StevO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 thanks pete, i agree with what moshiri said, sounds good. i hope other owners call for points deductions as well. pete0 and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: thanks pete, i agree with what moshiri said, sounds good. i hope other owners call for points deductions as well. I listened to it and it wasn’t. It doesn’t need to be done in my opinion. There statement was thoughtful and well articulated. It should have been left at that. Talking about punishment and points deduction for me takes the focus away from the real issue and can divide fans. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 https://talksport.com/football/868433/big-six-points-deducted-premier-league-everton-farhad-moshiri-european-super-league/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevO Posted April 20, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 20 minutes ago, barryj said: https://talksport.com/football/868433/big-six-points-deducted-premier-league-everton-farhad-moshiri-european-super-league/ I think he spoke quite well. I hope this is a move from the likes of Moshiri and Parish to get other owners talking publicly and condemning all of this. I agree with a points deduction. A ten point deduction could really have a big impact on these teams. It puts Arsenal in the relegation fight. It certainly keeps Spurs out of European competition. Maybe even 15 points, make the end of the season really interesting for these clubs. Romey 1878, markjazzbassist, Quinn31 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 13 hours ago, barryj said: It was a rhetorical question. I know the answer as do we all it was to point out the very fabric that they just clearly don’t understand or if they do just blatantly don’t care for. The thing is the fans do have the power. If no one watches it doesn’t work. The number of fans attending in person is almost irrelevant. The real money comes from TV contracts, and that's largely supported by advertising. To really make a difference, everyone needs to boycott any company that plans on advertising during televised games. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 I'm not really sure on what legal footing they can deduct points or kick teams out of competitions. These 12 clubs wouldn't have announced it at this stage of the season if they thought they would be in any trouble. They can afford the most expensive lawyers in the world after all. At the risk of being sued, these clubs won't be kicked out of the competitions or deducted points at this stage until the waters are tested through the Courts. If the EFL / PL lost a case like that it would only serve to mean less money to the teams it is trying to protect. As far as I can see the Premier League rule book stops clubs entering or playing in a competition such as the ESL. The ESL have only stated they have "agreed to establish a new mid-week competition". There appears to be no rule about establishing new competitions. If these 6 teams then want to enter the Premier League next season, that is where the problems may arise. Will the Premier League really want to kick out those 6 clubs? Will the other sides want to kick out those 6 clubs knowing that it will almost certainly affect their own revenues? There is so much at play for all of these clubs at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 https://www.sportspromedia.com/analysis/european-super-league-legal-issues-eu-competition-law-darren-bailey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 The more I think on this from a financial perspective, I'm guessing that the owners (all foreign, of course) signed up for this scheme in collaboration with a handful of broadcasters and the major betting companies. It's an unfortunate fact that every Premier League team, bar one the last time I checked, is sponsored by these betting companies. They wield too much power, and they could begin to make threats. I hope, as a team, we have the guts to make any such threats public and use the opportunity to clean house of them and their conflicts of interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, Bailey said: I'm not really sure on what legal footing they can deduct points or kick teams out of competitions. These 12 clubs wouldn't have announced it at this stage of the season if they thought they would be in any trouble. They can afford the most expensive lawyers in the world after all. At the risk of being sued, these clubs won't be kicked out of the competitions or deducted points at this stage until the waters are tested through the Courts. If the EFL / PL lost a case like that it would only serve to mean less money to the teams it is trying to protect. As far as I can see the Premier League rule book stops clubs entering or playing in a competition such as the ESL. The ESL have only stated they have "agreed to establish a new mid-week competition". There appears to be no rule about establishing new competitions. If these 6 teams then want to enter the Premier League next season, that is where the problems may arise. Will the Premier League really want to kick out those 6 clubs? Will the other sides want to kick out those 6 clubs knowing that it will almost certainly affect their own revenues? There is so much at play for all of these clubs at the moment. Bringing the game into disrepute. Bernardo Silva got a one match ban for making a joke with a teammate that could be deemed as offensive. What the snakey 6 has done has offended nearly every football fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 59 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: The number of fans attending in person is almost irrelevant. The real money comes from TV contracts, and that's largely supported by advertising. To really make a difference, everyone needs to boycott any company that plans on advertising during televised games. Unfortunately this is exactly the point and exactly the reason these 6 will plough ahead regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 Not had a chance to watch it yet StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 Proud of our clubs response first and foremost. As ever we are leaders when it comes to integrity and putting the public first. However, i don’t see Fifa, UEFA or the fa really doing anything to punish these 6 teams apart from a big fine that only lines their pockets. Football has been corrupt for a long long time. The fa will never punish these 6 teams to an extent that keeps them out of Europe, let alone threaten them with relegation. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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