Matt Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 I knew you'd be on that like shit on velcro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 Just now, Matt said: I knew you'd be on that like shit on velcro Triple checked before posting! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56873448 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 1 hour ago, MikeO said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56873448 Let's hope the financial penalties for violating their contract are substantial. This would be the best punishment of all since it would hurt the owners' pockets. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 25, 2021 Report Share Posted April 25, 2021 If the team’s that left get fined by ESL were and in who’s pockets will the money eventually go, could it be used in legal battles against all of the European and World footballing bodies to legally get their league recognised and to stop any retribution to their plans, and if so and they win would that encourage the big players to return to the concept knowing they legally can’t be penalised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 25, 2021 Report Share Posted April 25, 2021 StevO, Romey 1878, markjazzbassist and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 25, 2021 Report Share Posted April 25, 2021 They could've proofread it first but they're spot on with the overall message Quinn31, dunlopp9987, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 29, 2021 Report Share Posted April 29, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56931186 Soo, still no actual consequences of note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Matt said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56931186 Soo, still no actual consequences of note. So it'll be different faces at the table hiding things from the other 14 clubs. Nice one. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Didn't quite know where to put this, but crazy scenes from Old Trafford. Of course my immediate thought was back to January 6th and the storming of the Capitol here, albeit much less violent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: Didn't quite know where to put this, but crazy scenes from Old Trafford. Of course my immediate thought was back to January 6th and the storming of the Capitol here, albeit much less violent. Indeed, protestors at the ground have breached the gates and are currently in the ground and on the pitch. It all seems peaceful(ish) at the moment, however one of the videos shows a flare being thrown onto one of the massive posters that most clubs have on their seats during Covid. I just hope it doesn't turn violent, as that would just make the whole thing a thugs day out as opposed to trying to remove people like the Glazers, FSG and Kroenke's from the clubs that they hold power in. The game might not be postponed, as I expect the police to be in there shortly but of course there will be a delay to the KO. Edit: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Indeed, protestors at the ground have breached the gates and are currently in the ground and on the pitch. It all seems peaceful(ish) at the moment, however one of the videos shows a flare being thrown onto one of the massive posters that most clubs have on their seats during Covid. I just hope it doesn't turn violent, as that would just make the whole thing a thugs day out as opposed to trying to remove people like the Glazers, FSG and Kroenke's from the clubs that they hold power in. The game might not be postponed, as I expect the police to be in there shortly but of course there will be a delay to the KO. Yeah they're all out of the grounds now. Were probably only in there for 10-15 minutes total Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, dunlopp9987 said: Yeah they're all out of the grounds now. Were probably only in there for 10-15 minutes total I expect them to move to the coach park, apparently there are hundreds outside the Lowry Hotel where both clubs are staying, apparently neither clubs have left for the ground yet due to the protest. I've been following the build-up this and 10,000 are expected to turn out so think that this is just the beginning. The protestors will be there throughout the game and after the final whistle, it actually wouldn't surprise me if a few of them try and get onto the pitch during the game itself to cause scenes and get on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Well they're back on the pitch. They....they realize there are cameras everywhere and there will be legal action, yeah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, dunlopp9987 said: Well they're back on the pitch. They....they realize there are cameras everywhere and there will be legal action, yeah? It all depends though doesn't it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 Clearly an insider at the ground left a door open or unlocked so they could get in, two police injured also, that will loose a lot of sympathy and support for their aim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad all over Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 There is talk about a fine or points deduction. Fine won't hurt the Glazers or club at all. Points deduction teaches the fans a lesson as well as the club (lax security). I'm not against protest but there are right ways to go about it. The few spoiled it for the many anticipating the game, due to the significance of the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56972776 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, Matt said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56972776 They had no hesitation going against the regulations already in place so this will do absolutely fuck all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: They had no hesitation going against the regulations already in place so this will do absolutely fuck all. You cynic. They said sorry, its all fine now. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Matt said: You cynic. They said sorry, its all fine now. It smacks of an attitude of “we need to be seen to be doing something, this will do”. They needed to punish them heavily but this token gesture isn’t a surprise in the slightest. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 It's actually amazing how terrified the FA and Premier League are of the ''Big 6''. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 it will be interesting to see this play out. i honestly thought the UK system was less corrupt, we will find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: It's actually amazing how terrified the FA and Premier League are of the ''Big 6''. I look at it the other way. I'm amazed that the "Big 6" really don't give a damn about the FA/PL. Only backed out because of fan backlash mostly it seems like. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 https://www.football365.com/news/big-six-among-nine-esl-clubs-commit-uefa-competitions What a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 45 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.football365.com/news/big-six-among-nine-esl-clubs-commit-uefa-competitions What a joke. If that really is their solution to punish and prevent future bullshit, they're more deluded than though. Plus that fine won't do anything. Banks funding the ESL give those sums as bonuses to a single person, they won't hesitate to just compensate any club the "fine". And as if the other 3 give a shit. All this inaction and indecision is doing is actually reinforcing their mentality that they're more powerful than the authorities. Just like the bankers after the crash, only 1 being suffering any real consequences Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 I'm not even going to let myself get annoyed about it, as stated earlier it's amazing how terrified the governing bodies are of the "Big 6". From Day One you just knew there would be zero punishment, with at best a fine that in relative term would be pennies. It's been this way for a while for me; love Everton, pretty much hate the "sport" that they play within as it's riddled with backstabbing, corruption and money spinning. My interest in Everton and football as a game will never, ever die as I love it/them too much. But I just cannot get on board with the whole business side of things - it makes me genuinely not that arsed about breaking into the Champions League as it's just more games in what is a money exercise for UEFA. Long gone are the romantic days of European success, it's all about breaking into these competitions for social media likes, inflated sponsorships and fans being treated as cash-cow customers. There is a part of me that was a bit dissapointed that the Super League didn't go ahead, so that the "Big 6" could eventually fuck off to their European friendly tours and we could get back to what domestic football should be. Edit: Also, the Glazers liable for between €5-10m when their net worth is estimated at around $3bn . Don't do it again lads! Palfy, Matt and Bailey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 17, 2021 Report Share Posted May 17, 2021 https://gary-neville.medium.com/an-open-letter-e5b4749fb50a markjazzbassist and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 16 hours ago, MikeO said: https://gary-neville.medium.com/an-open-letter-e5b4749fb50a https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57144141 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 https://www.football365.com/news/disciplinary-proceedings-opened-against-three-esl-founders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 27, 2021 Report Share Posted May 27, 2021 21 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.football365.com/news/disciplinary-proceedings-opened-against-three-esl-founders The 3 clubs mentioned still haven’t withdrawn their support for the ESL, surely the possibility of a 2 year CL ban isn’t punishment enough, it should be an indefinite ban until they fully withdraw from the ESL, with a firm commitment to UEFA that they will not be involved with any other breakaway leagues, and sign and accept as all clubs should do that any plans or involvement with any breakaway leagues means a complete expulsion from any leagues or competitions under the umbrella of UEFA. Matt, MikeO and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MikeO Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: In what other disciplinary process do the people being desciplined get to be involved in the discussion on their "punishment"? Laughable. markjazzbassist and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, MikeO said: In what other disciplinary process do the people being desciplined get to be involved in the discussion on their "punishment"? Laughable. This will teach them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 absolute joke it will fuel Florentino even more. This will happen and the red shite will be one of the flagship members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 Pathetic. That's £20m between them. Fuck the game, I think I'm done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 Even their own fans are happy with a point deduction to punish the owners. But nope. Business not sport. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 https://www.football365.com/news/neville-hits-out-at-premier-league-over-paltry-super-league-fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 10, 2021 Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 Is anyone surprised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 10, 2021 Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Bailey said: Is anyone surprised? Not really, I think the PL are relieved they didn’t have a big fight on their hands, and the punishment in someways is praising the so called big 6 for not pursuing their ESL ambitions, very weak in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 10, 2021 Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Bailey said: Is anyone surprised? Nope, which makes it even more infuriating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MikeO Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Presumably that just means they don't have the power to stop it (though I'd have thought there were higher courts to take it to over "Madrid's 17th Commercial Court"), but they can still throw the offending clubs out of their competitions. Let them go I say. Sibdane, Matt, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58032324 Love someone to ask Ancelotti where he stands on it now. Palfy and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, MikeO said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58032324 Love someone to ask Ancelotti where he stands on it now. In front of glass doors claiming he's going to start working again. Cunt. Romey 1878, MikeO and Palfy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 We haven't heard the last of this, i think the Super League is still in their plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 10 hours ago, Bill said: We haven't heard the last of this, i think the Super League is still in their plans. Most definitely Bill, if they have the green light from the European court and Uefa’s hands have been tied what’s to stop them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 34 minutes ago, Palfy said: Most definitely Bill, if they have the green light from the European court and Uefa’s hands have been tied what’s to stop them. They have no green light from any European court, they have the support of a minor court in Madrid (surprise) so means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Zoo 2.0, StevO, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Like last time, the Super League would be an absolute disgrace to football but am I that arsed? Not really. The "Big Six" have been taking the piss and doing what they feel like for years (perhaps decades now). Even though it would ruin football as I know it, them fucking off and us having an actual fair domestic league wouldn't be all too bad. StevO, markjazzbassist and Bill 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Like last time, the Super League would be an absolute disgrace to football but am I that arsed? Not really. The "Big Six" have been taking the piss and doing what they feel like for years (perhaps decades now). Even though it would ruin football as I know it, them fucking off and us having an actual fair domestic league wouldn't be all too bad. This is where I am too. Get the greedy fuckers out, have the teams that want real and fair competition to stay in. The super league will be a bore fest and a failure in time. No one wants to see that shit. The underdog upsets are what gets people into sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64578730 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cornish Steve Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 "All the Premier League owners have made that commitment. They will not be joining a European Super League." That's a very naive statement. The teams who would join are all owned by the ultra-rich, and they have no morals except "make more money". If they smelled new money, they'd back-stab the Premier League in an instant. The ONLY thing that would stop it would be a strong unified response from the fans. I've suggested before that we should ban sponsorship by betting companies. In addition, we have to do something to stop financial strong-arming by foreign owners. City blatantly violated the letter, and even more so the spirit, of FFP. Newcastle will soon be found to be doing the same. We cannot allow them to get away with it. We at Everton might want new owners, but let's avoid becoming a financial play-thing of the very rich. Do we want to be the next City or Newcastle? Would we sell our soul to the devil to buy some sort of fabricated success? I certainly hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said: "All the Premier League owners have made that commitment. They will not be joining a European Super League." That's a very naive statement. The teams who would join are all owned by the ultra-rich, and they have no morals except "make more money". If they smelled new money, they'd back-stab the Premier League in an instant. The ONLY thing that would stop it would be a strong unified response from the fans. I've suggested before that we should ban sponsorship by betting companies. In addition, we have to do something to stop financial strong-arming by foreign owners. City blatantly violated the letter, and even more so the spirit, of FFP. Newcastle will soon be found to be doing the same. We cannot allow them to get away with it. We at Everton might want new owners, but let's avoid becoming a financial play-thing of the very rich. Do we want to be the next City or Newcastle? Would we sell our soul to the devil to buy some sort of fabricated success? I certainly hope not. The whole point was the this BGL is in addition this time around, and that statement is a contract agreement with the PL. It won't come down to morals, fans will just stop supporting those clubs and it'll die, killing the clubs along the way. Actually, when I think about it, bring it on. This could be a Thanos snap moment but with volunteers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 Daniel Levy: "We are competing in a league in which we have seen increased sovereign wealth ownership and consortia finance; and in a league where the spending power is now vested in the hands of a few who dominate and have the ability to distort the market... It is understandable that some fans call for more spending, much of which is unsustainable for many clubs." How much more if the ESL promoters get their way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said: Daniel Levy: "We are competing in a league in which we have seen increased sovereign wealth ownership and consortia finance; and in a league where the spending power is now vested in the hands of a few who dominate and have the ability to distort the market... It is understandable that some fans call for more spending, much of which is unsustainable for many clubs." How much more if the ESL promoters get their way? I did think it was quite laughable coming from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 58 minutes ago, Matt said: I did think it was quite laughable coming from him. True, but his point is very valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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