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46 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

So far, the only teams we've beaten are in the bottom five. This will be the first real indication of what our season will be like.

Last season we had a habit of losing to bottom five teams so there's progress for you.

That said, I'm fearful be may get humiliated; just hope we're not destroyed.

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1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said:

So far, the only teams we've beaten are in the bottom five. This will be the first real indication of what our season will be like.

Brighton could go top this evening!!! and we beat them away.  So not quite right. but agree we have had an relatively easy start fixtures wise. 

Don't think you can forget our preceding results and then make judgement of likely season based on how an injury ravaged side playing away to Man U. 

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9 minutes ago, RuffRob said:

Brighton could go top this evening!!! and we beat them away.  So not quite right. but agree we have had an relatively easy start fixtures wise. 

Don't think you can forget our preceding results and then make judgement of likely season based on how an injury ravaged side playing away to Man U. 

You're quite right. I overlooked Brighton.

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6 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said:

Think DCL is more likely to be fit than Richy

Been some footage of Richarlison in the gym and he is looking okay. We’re going to need at least one of them though to even stand a chance of getting something from this but they do have a tricky midweek game that they need to win so it’s a good time to play them.

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I am a little worried about this game because it will be our third game against an attacking side and in the last two games against those type of sides we have conceded 5 goals (Leeds & Villa). United are a cut above them both.

I think we will continue to pose a threat to any side that commits too many bodies forward, because we can be devastating on the counter attack so I can see United being a bit cautious. The onus will be on them to attack given their recent results, and they will have played midweek. I fancy another high scoring game.

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1 hour ago, Bailey said:

I am a little worried about this game because it will be our third game against an attacking side and in the last two games against those type of sides we have conceded 5 goals (Leeds & Villa). United are a cut above them both.

I think we will continue to pose a threat to any side that commits too many bodies forward, because we can be devastating on the counter attack so I can see United being a bit cautious. The onus will be on them to attack given their recent results, and they will have played midweek. I fancy another high scoring game.

I think @Btay has a point too about the midweek game. Having lost their first against Young Boys, they'll likely put in their first team XI tomorrow, and then we have the early game on Saturday. Could be some tired legs.

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18 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said:

I think @Btay has a point too about the midweek game. Having lost their first against Young Boys, they'll likely put in their first team XI tomorrow, and then we have the early game on Saturday. Could be some tired legs.

It's certainly not a bad time to be playing Man U but I am more concerned about what starting eleven we can put out and what options we might have from the bench. If DCL and/or Richarlison play then we have an outball and we won't have to soak up quite so much pressure.

Usual rules, keep it tight for half an hour, silence the crowd, hit them on the break, hang on!

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I'm not worried in the slightest. This game will be setup as 2 banks of 5 to piss them off. Even the fans who don't like Rafa should be comfortable, this is a perfect game for the tedious defensive football they complain about :P

Seriously though, and I know this sounds bad, considering our injuries we have to set up to contain with 1 point being the main objective and hopefully steal all 3. I think that approach should be something we can do well. 

time will tell but I am cautiously optimistic even if expectations are low. 

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4 hours ago, Matt said:

I'm not worried in the slightest. This game will be setup as 2 banks of 5 to piss them off. Even the fans who don't like Rafa should be comfortable, this is a perfect game for the tedious defensive football they complain about :P

Seriously though, and I know this sounds bad, considering our injuries we have to set up to contain with 1 point being the main objective and hopefully steal all 3. I think that approach should be something we can do well. 

time will tell but I am cautiously optimistic even if expectations are low. 

Agree we’ll need to set up that way, but I’m very worried about this one. 

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Good time to play them as they're playing tonight in the Champions League away in Spain and need to win as they lost to Young Boys. Hopefully there will be a few tired legs in their camp come the weekend and we can exploit. 

Would take a 0-0 (or any draw) all day long though as Old Trafford is such a difficult place to go. Just hoping we can run the midfield as that's where they're weakest and nick a goal or two. 

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I actually don't know if I'd rather United win or lose tonight. If they lose, it would be 4 losses in 5 for them. Instead of being demoralizing, I'd be worried it might inspire them to give us a right ass-kicking on Saturday.

Think I'd rather see them play out an exhausting, drab 0-0 draw

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1 hour ago, dunlopp9987 said:

I actually don't know if I'd rather United win or lose tonight. If they lose, it would be 4 losses in 5 for them. Instead of being demoralizing, I'd be worried it might inspire them to give us a right ass-kicking on Saturday.

Think I'd rather see them play out an exhausting, drab 0-0 draw

It’s on its way. Villarreal are giving them some real head aches - sitting deep with a compact & organised defensive structure and then breaking quickly forward. 
More clinical uptop and they probably have a 3 goal lead right now. 

If we can get ourselves sorted defensively I think we have enough pace in the team to hurt them.

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7 minutes ago, Btay said:

It’s on its way. Villarreal are giving them some real head aches - sitting deep with a compact & organised defensive structure and then breaking quickly forward. 
More clinical uptop and they probably have a 3 goal lead right now. 

If we can get ourselves sorted defensively I think we have enough pace in the team to hurt them.

Sounds like Danjuma is the stand-out so far - €25m from Bournemouth in the summer - another one we were linked to.

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1 hour ago, dunlopp9987 said:

Really hope this doesn't give them a boost for Saturday

It could be false confidence because they really weren’t great at all. We can get something from this and our current style of play is perfect against them

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21 minutes ago, Finn balor said:

Even if richy is fit I’d be reticent to play him as a number 9. He’s far more potent running from a bit deeper but I suppose we don’t have much alternative. I can’t see us keeping a clean sheet with all their attacking players 

Funny, I can see us keeping a clean sheet, but don't expect us to put any goals in ourselves. Only way we get a result is 0-0 or 1-0

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18 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said:

Funny, I can see us keeping a clean sheet, but don't expect us to put any goals in ourselves. Only way we get a result is 0-0 or 1-0

This sounds right to me, especially after the injury update given today by Benitez.  We’ll be very lucky to take a point.  Maybe we can score from our one corner of the day.  Time for Mina to head one in.

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2276341/everton-boss-gives-team-news-update

Only Gbamin fit to return, and now Iwobi has a “little problem.”

Maybe something like 4-3-2-1.  Doucouré and Allan need to be strictly protecting DCMs for this match.

                          Pickford

Holgate     Mina       Keane     Godfrey

      Doucouré       Allan          Digne

          Townsend               Gray

                             Rondón             

Davies, Gordon, Kenny, Gbamin, Dobbin, Simms the bench.  Jeez.

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Elston Gunnn said:

This sounds right to me, especially after the injury update given today by Benitez.  We’ll be very lucky to take a point.  Maybe we can score from our one corner of the day.  Time for Mina to head one in.

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2276341/everton-boss-gives-team-news-update

Only Gbamin fit to return, and now Iwobi has a “little problem.”

Maybe something like 4-3-2-1.  Doucouré and Allan need to be strictly protecting DCMs for this match.

                          Pickford

Holgate     Mina       Keane     Godfrey

      Doucouré       Allan          Digne

          Townsend               Gray

                             Rondón             

Davies, Gordon, Kenny, Gbamin, Dobbin, Simms the bench.  Jeez.

 

 

I'd be fine with that but swap Digne and Godfrey. Godfrey at least has some experience playing in a midfield role

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2 hours ago, Elston Gunnn said:

This sounds right to me, especially after the injury update given today by Benitez.  We’ll be very lucky to take a point.  Maybe we can score from our one corner of the day.  Time for Mina to head one in.

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2276341/everton-boss-gives-team-news-update

Only Gbamin fit to return, and now Iwobi has a “little problem.”

Maybe something like 4-3-2-1.  Doucouré and Allan need to be strictly protecting DCMs for this match.

                          Pickford

Holgate     Mina       Keane     Godfrey

      Doucouré       Allan          Digne

          Townsend               Gray

                             Rondón             

Davies, Gordon, Kenny, Gbamin, Dobbin, Simms the bench.  Jeez.

 

 

I like the back 4 they should be fairly strong with Allan sat in front, a Townsend wonder strike and we could hold them to 1-0 win or a 1-1. 

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4 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said:

I'd be fine with that but swap Digne and Godfrey. Godfrey at least has some experience playing in a midfield role

Either I forgot or just never realized Godfrey had played some midfield.  I put Digne further up for 2 reasons: (1) as for his own skills, he seems more effective pushing forward than defending as a FB; (2) and in comparison to Godfrey, he’s a better crosser than Godfrey, right?

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14 minutes ago, Elston Gunnn said:

Either I forgot or just never realized Godfrey had played some midfield.  I put Digne further up for 2 reasons: (1) as for his own skills, he seems more effective pushing forward than defending as a FB; (2) and in comparison to Godfrey, he’s a better crosser than Godfrey, right?

Yes to both points, but it's precisely because his crossing is better than Godfrey's that he should stay as a fullback

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I'm guessing the lineup will be the same as last weekend but with either Gbamin or Gordon replacing Iwobi. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm expecting a total nightmare of a game.

                            Pickford

Godfrey         Mina           Keane              Digne

          Doucoure     Allan      Gbamin/Gordon

                      Townsend     Gray

                               Rondon

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Good to see Gordon get a chance though probably only because Iwobi is out.

Man Utd benched Ronaldo so expect he'll come on and save the day if we're looking like getting a result.

Their McFred combo in the middle isn't too daunting, Doucoure can muscle his way past them no problem.  Pogba benched as well

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Not the greatest start and Utd probably should be ahead. Digne completely lured in (common theme at the moment) and Townsend (or Godfrey?) left Martial for a free header which he should have done much better with.

 

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