duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 https://www.goodisonnews.com/2022/07/04/everton-make-official-contact-in-bid-to-sign-chelsea-striker-armando-broja/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 Loan with obligation to buy would be the best option. Could be a very, very good player 3-4 years time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Btay said: Loan with obligation to buy would be the best option. Could be a very, very good player 3-4 years time. Loan with option to buy. Don't like the obligation stuff. chicagoblue, StevO, MikeO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post London Blue Posted July 5, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Matt said: Loan with option to buy. Don't like the obligation stuff. Commitment issues Quinn31, StevO, Matt and 3 others 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Matt said: Loan with option to buy. Don't like the obligation stuff. I agree. If it’s a loan with an obligation to buy then why not just buy him and defer the payment, that’s all it’s doing anyway. And taking up a potential loan spot for someone else. MikeO and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, StevO said: I agree. If it’s a loan with an obligation to buy then why not just buy him and defer the payment, that’s all it’s doing anyway. And taking up a potential loan spot for someone else. There's certain advantage, because they do it quite a lot in Italian Serie A. I've seen players on two year loan with arranged transfer to the loanee club. Frank Kessie to AC Milan being a prime example, though he just joined Barcelona on a free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Matt said: Loan with option to buy. Don't like the obligation stuff. If we can get that in the deal absolutely but I’d be worried if he has a really good season someone else will get him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 Surely if we have the correct scouts running the right numbers through the system then an obligation to buy is good to go. It gives us more flexibility financially in terms of pushing the expense to next year. for me it looks like the lad has more rounded attributes than any striker we’ve had since Saha. Pace, skill, strength, can beat a man and create his own chances, and can finish, looks like a worker too. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, RPG said: This might sound silly but if we accept an obligation to buy in the loan agreement, what happens if the player turns into an instant worldie and the parent club then decide not to sell? Do they have an implied obligation to sell? Obligations work both ways unless there is a specific clause stating otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, RPG said: This might sound silly but if we accept an obligation to buy in the loan agreement, what happens if the player turns into an instant worldie and the parent club then decide not to sell? Do they have an implied obligation to sell? They have to sell, the same as if he’s crap we have to buy. See moise Kean and juve Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/armando-broja-everton-richarlison-transfer-24403130 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Hafnia said: Surely if we have the correct scouts running the right numbers through the system then an obligation to buy is good to go. It gives us more flexibility financially in terms of pushing the expense to next year. for me it looks like the lad has more rounded attributes than any striker we’ve had since Saha. Pace, skill, strength, can beat a man and create his own chances, and can finish, looks like a worker too. My thought exactly. Ideally as Steve mentioned an outright transfer with a deferred payment is the best option though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 On 28/01/2022 at 13:32, patto said: Would anyone consider selling DCL now and invest in a new striker I think Doms head has been turned now and won't be bothered if we go down we could actually go for Broja, That's if the reported fees are true 60m is a fair amount. Controversial, maybe, but I wouldn't object to selling DC-L for big bucks and buying outright both Dennis and Broja, with Simms and Dobbin waiting in the wings. RuffRob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: Controversial, maybe, but I wouldn't object to selling DC-L for big bucks and buying outright both Dennis and Broja, with Simms and Dobbin waiting in the wings. Part of the appeal of bringing in Borja now would be to ease him in while DCL is still at the club. I think he’s got all the makings of a top striker, but it’d be expecting a lot of a 20 year old to be your main man up top for the season. And I see Dennis as a like for like replacement of Richarlison; mostly played out wide, as an option if playing two up front, but only used as a lone striker if low on other options in that position. Billwelshblue and Matt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billwelshblue Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 Apparently he can play on the flanks too so you are buying back up and another option. Also as others have said when Dom leaves he moves through the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 9 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Controversial, maybe, but I wouldn't object to selling DC-L for big bucks and buying outright both Dennis and Broja, with Simms and Dobbin waiting in the wings. I agree, but might be better to have some overlap, say 6-12 months - DCL say in January or before 30 June next year as counts in same financial year if that's what is needed. My worry of selling DCL this window would be we where so close to relegation last season that losing our two main goal threats in a oner might be to much. Burnley went down because they couldn't score goals. If Everton can get the old loan with an obligation to buy deal on Broja that would be ideal. I would love us to be building around Broja and Gibb-White types - if we do this along with Gordon, Godfrey, Patterson and Mykolenko - we start to become a team young players look at and think - if I am up to the task they will play me, I want to join Everton. It also help players see that if they cut the mustard after 3-4 years we are also amicable in transferring them to CL teams if the opportunity arises. Maybe in 4-5 years time we might be knocking on the door of CL ourselves, but we are a long long way of that yet. We need a proper long term 5-10 year plan in place and the board through to the fans have to buy in to it. We have half heartedly tied it before - but Moshiri gets over excited and take two steps backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 13 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Controversial, maybe, but I wouldn't object to selling DC-L for big bucks and buying outright both Dennis and Broja, with Simms and Dobbin waiting in the wings. It’s looking like simms is going to be let go permanently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 23 minutes ago, patto said: It’s looking like simms is going to be let go permanently. A good decision. StevO and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: A good decision. He knows how to score but I think he lacks control and pace I did think Lampard would have a look at him pre season though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 1 hour ago, patto said: He knows how to score but I think he lacks control and pace I did think Lampard would have a look at him pre season though. Really? He’s rapid and has bags of skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: Really? He’s rapid and has bags of skill. I don’t agree he hasn’t got bags of skill and he’s not what I would call rapid he might make it somewhere the proof of the pudding is let’s see who comes in for him. see do any prem teams come in for him. Edited July 6, 2022 by patto Missed a word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 3 hours ago, patto said: I don’t agree he hasn’t got bags of skill and he’s not what I would call rapid he might make it somewhere the proof of the pudding is let’s see who comes in for him. see do any prem teams come in for him. Yeah it’s done us good with Luis Diaz, Andy Robertson, Virgil van Dyke who we were linked with before they ended up at Liverpool…. Jarrod Bowen another one….. let’s just say Chelsea fans would rather have him than Lukaku or Havertz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Hafnia said: Yeah it’s done us good with Luis Diaz, Andy Robertson, Virgil van Dyke who we were linked with before they ended up at Liverpool…. Jarrod Bowen another one….. let’s just say Chelsea fans would rather have him than Lukaku or Havertz Patto was talking about Simms. patto, StevO, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Patto was talking about Simms. That would make sense, I’d agree on that basis. Shukes and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: That would make sense, I’d agree on that basis. Haha Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: Yeah it’s done us good with Luis Diaz, Andy Robertson, Virgil van Dyke who we were linked with before they ended up at Liverpool…. Jarrod Bowen another one….. let’s just say Chelsea fans would rather have him than Lukaku or Havertz It looks like we scout for Liverpool and they sign them it’s unreal Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 24 minutes ago, patto said: It looks like we scout for Liverpool and they sign them it’s unreal We were never getting a guy like VVD once Liverpool were in for them. With no particular affinity for either side why would he come to a side farther down the table where he’d earn much less longterm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, SpartyBlue said: We were never getting a guy like VVD once Liverpool were in for them. With no particular affinity for either side why would he come to a side farther down the table where he’d earn much less longterm? we were looking at vvd when he was at Celtic, we scouted the shit out of him… paid a fortune for funes Mori instead and he went to Southampton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Hafnia said: we were looking at vvd when he was at Celtic, we scouted the shit out of him… paid a fortune for funes Mori instead and he went to Southampton. I can remember that, and I really thought it was going to happen. Wasn't it during Koeman's time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 Just now, Cornish Steve said: I can remember that, and I really thought it was going to happen. Wasn't it during Koeman's time? No Martinez, £10m Celtic wanted, we paid £9.5m for funes mori. Martinez considered Robertson too expensive too… he had a mare there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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