FairWooney Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 disappointing that as he was showing that he could be a good option in midfield and could offer more than Gueye in the middle. Could be a chance for Price after his good couple of games on the Aus tour. Romey 1878 and RPG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Back in light training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Back in light training. Good to hear, I was trying to look last night for a update on how he was getting on, thinking it shouldn't be long. I was looking forward to seeing him in our midfield, but we have just not really had the chance - by all accounts he like's to play the ball forward, something we are was really really missing, and something that could change games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Be good if we can build on a dynamic midfield of him and onana. Gana has been crap. If Dyche is playing 442 with grey and McNeil on the wings it feels there could be a decent young midfield there c1982, London Blue and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Back to the days of an injured player coming back and “it’s like a new signing” Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Does Dyche have form for playing youngsters? I don't remember many playing at Burnley but that could be because they don't have much of an academy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 3 hours ago, Btay said: Back to the days of an injured player coming back and “it’s like a new signing” It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife... c1982 and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 20 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Does Dyche have form for playing youngsters? I don't remember many playing at Burnley but that could be because they don't have much of an academy? McNeil! Beyond him… he brought Collins off Stoke and played him first team - think he was only 19 so he’ll play ‘good enough’ youngsters - Trippier was signed young and developed but maybe before Dyche. Burnley aren’t renowned for their academy like you say though - Jay Rodriguez, Kyle Lafferty… Lee Dixon!!! I do hope this shitshow provides opportunities for someone like Mills - we need something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 17 minutes ago, c1982 said: McNeil! Beyond him… he brought Collins off Stoke and played him first team - think he was only 19 so he’ll play ‘good enough’ youngsters - Trippier was signed young and developed but maybe before Dyche. Burnley aren’t renowned for their academy like you say though - Jay Rodriguez, Kyle Lafferty… Lee Dixon!!! I do hope this shitshow provides opportunities for someone like Mills - we need something! I think Stan mills will be playing. Just a hunch but I think he has a chance to make right back his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 18 minutes ago, c1982 said: McNeil! Beyond him… he brought Collins off Stoke and played him first team - think he was only 19 so he’ll play ‘good enough’ youngsters - Trippier was signed young and developed but maybe before Dyche. Burnley aren’t renowned for their academy like you say though - Jay Rodriguez, Kyle Lafferty… Lee Dixon!!! I do hope this shitshow provides opportunities for someone like Mills - we need something! I just don't see it happening myself. Is he going to trust a kid in a relegation battle? I doubt it. Personally I think it's madness not to at least try when the experienced players continually let you down but I can definitely envisage Michael Keane up front before Simms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosse Captain Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Looking forward to seeing more of Garner. Good central trio with Gana & Onana. Simms won’t play much. He’s no where near good enough Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 People are forgetting about Doucoure, I'd play him before Garner as I'm sure that Dyche will also play him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, Bill said: People are forgetting about Doucoure, I'd play him before Garner as I'm sure that Dyche will also play him. I'd play both because Gana and Onana have been crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosse Captain Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Suspect most will get games. Try different combinations to see what he’s got, we’ve not given him much choice have we (thanks to the board) Gana and Onana will def play. Specific roles for both and he’ll get a tune out of them. Garner, Douc, Davies will be the 3rd player. We haven’t got 2 strikers so it won’t be 442. Iwobi for me has reverted to type as his bubble has burst. Can see him outwide again as at least he runs around. More likely a 451 out / 433 in possesion type shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPG Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Fosse Captain said: Suspect most will get games. Try different combinations to see what he’s got, we’ve not given him much choice have we (thanks to the board) Gana and Onana will def play. Specific roles for both and he’ll get a tune out of them. Garner, Douc, Davies will be the 3rd player. We haven’t got 2 strikers so it won’t be 442. Iwobi for me has reverted to type as his bubble has burst. Can see him outwide again as at least he runs around. More likely a 451 out / 433 in possesion type shape That;s what I think too. 4-1-4-1 maybe. Pickford Coleman Keane Tarkowski Mykolenko Gueye Iwobi Doucoure Onana McNeil DCL Fosse Captain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Gana shouldn’t be any where near the starting 11 on recent form. Palfy, London Blue and AlbanyNYToffee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPG Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 22 minutes ago, Btay said: Gana shouldn’t be any where near the starting 11 on recent form. Maybe. He has had a couple of terrible performances recently, I agree. I just think Dyche may actually get the best out of him. Just tell him to sit deep, break up play, win possession and pass it quickly to the nearest blue shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosse Captain Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 19 minutes ago, RPG said: Maybe. He has had a couple of terrible performances recently, I agree. I just think Dyche may actually get the best out of him. Just tell him to sit deep, break up play, win possession and pass it quickly to the nearest blue shirt. Yep. Square pegs in square holes. Do what your ‘best’ at. Keep compact. Shift across. Defend 3, attack 4. Simple and (usually) pretty successful way to play. It won’t be pretty but we all know that already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Previous form goes out of the window. This is a new manager and a fresh start for the players to let us down all over again Btay, Matt, Wall Writer and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt Tiger Posted April 5 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 5 I thought he showed real quality in limited minutes in the spurs match, and I think with Doucs absence it makes the most sense for him to step into the starting midfield. Him and onana actually complement each other well in theory. Trigger, StevO, Romey 1878 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 I found out a bit before the team was announced that he was starting and I was so pleased for him, and even happier when he assisted McNeil for our goal. I think he did well considering that was his first PL start and he's just returning from a long injury lay-off as well and I hope we'll give him more minutes and starts. KinL and RPG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 If there are more legs around him he could look really good. Hopefully we see more of him, we need someone in the middle who can get on the ball that isn’t Iwobi. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 Garner has good awareness and can pick out a decent pass. Hopefully, he can do the business for us tonight against Newcastle. plaidharper, Matt and London Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 4 hours ago, Heath said: Garner has good awareness and can pick out a decent pass. Hopefully, he can do the business for us tonight against Newcastle. With Doucoure and potentially Onana back, would you play him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 39 minutes ago, Bailey said: With Doucoure and potentially Onana back, would you play him? It’s got to be Gana Onana Doucs I think we are going to need 3 battlers in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 56 minutes ago, Bailey said: With Doucoure and potentially Onana back, would you play him? Ahead of Onana, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 2 hours ago, Bailey said: With Doucoure and potentially Onana back, would you play him? My first on the midfield team sheet would be Doucoure, then any 2 from the other 3. I would even consider Onana as the holding midfielder with Garner being the focal point in getting the ball moving with meaningful passing. For me we have to start thinking about playing more offensive and less defensive, and those 3 would offer that imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Posted April 28 Report Share Posted April 28 17 hours ago, Bailey said: With Doucoure and potentially Onana back, would you play him? It's easy for me to say "Yes" now, given how things went with Newcastle. But in general, I'd give him more game time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted April 28 Report Share Posted April 28 15 hours ago, Palfy said: My first on the midfield team sheet would be Doucoure, then any 2 from the other 3. I would even consider Onana as the holding midfielder with Garner being the focal point in getting the ball moving with meaningful passing. For me we have to start thinking about playing more offensive and less defensive, and those 3 would offer that imo. Doucoure is just good for running power, he breaks up our play as much if not more than the oppositions. He is so frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shukes Posted April 28 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 28 Doucoure is as much as a liability as he shows promise. As much as he ran about last night, his passing was close to Iwobi’s, if not worse. Great engine, but is a mixture of Mina and Iwobi as far as technical ability is concerned. Garner has came in and been solid for me, without doing much so far. Needs a few games running before he will relax and express a bit. Looking forward to seeing what he can do. Btay, Goodison Glory, KinL and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 I think he's a starter now, probably instead of Onana. He's different from all our other midfielders in that as soon as he gets the ball his head is up and he's looking to be positive and move forward. Plus he actually has some composure. But. I still don't understand his massive head covered in face. Btay, Bailey, StevO and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 15 minutes ago, badaids said: I think he's a starter now, probably instead of Onana. He's different from all our other midfielders in that as soon as he gets the ball his head is up and he's looking to be positive and move forward. Plus he actually has some composure. But. I still don't understand his massive head covered in face. He is the only midfielder we have that can play with the ball at his feet and looks very assured. I would still like to Onana come on against tired teams for the last 20 minutes and utilise his running power. We definitely missed a trick with that against Leicester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bailey Posted May 5 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 5 On 02/05/2023 at 23:48, badaids said: I think he's a starter now, probably instead of Onana. He's different from all our other midfielders in that as soon as he gets the ball his head is up and he's looking to be positive and move forward. Plus he actually has some composure. But. I still don't understand his massive head covered in face. I would be tempted to start Onana in place of Gueye and then Garner in the same type of role Onana used to play. Personally I think Gueye is way off it across the 90 minutes for all that he does have some good patches within it. I could see Onana dominating the play a little bit more in that Rodri style role. Goodison Glory, Matt, Btay and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 Agree with Bailey. Onana should be being brought in to be the replacement for Gana. Gana is best shielding that back four and keeping passes simple. The ten years gives, that many of our players struggle with. Onana needs to learn this and take that spot. Garner can then play with a little more freedom and play in that hole ten yards further up. Best tactics are always to play the game in the opposition half. We haven’t really saw it much yet, but Garner can shoot. Onana has shown that he is worse than Gana when it comes to shooting. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, Shukes said: Agree with Bailey. Onana should be being brought in to be the replacement for Gana. Gana is best shielding that back four and keeping passes simple. The ten years gives, that many of our players struggle with. Onana needs to learn this and take that spot. Garner can then play with a little more freedom and play in that hole ten yards further up. Best tactics are always to play the game in the opposition half. We haven’t really saw it much yet, but Garner can shoot. Onana has shown that he is worse than Gana when it comes to shooting. That's a pretty damming verdict on Onana because gana has had a couple of shots the past few weeks that wouldn't look out of place in Rugby League! Bailey and Palfy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, Shukes said: Onana has shown that he is worse than Gana when it comes to shooting. That’s impossible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 2 hours ago, Shukes said: Agree with Bailey. Onana should be being brought in to be the replacement for Gana. Gana is best shielding that back four and keeping passes simple. The ten years gives, that many of our players struggle with. Onana needs to learn this and take that spot. I know we lack pace but that's a little harsh. KinL, Matt and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 4 hours ago, Goodison Glory said: That's a pretty damming verdict on Onana because gana has had a couple of shots the past few weeks that wouldn't look out of place in Rugby League! Ye his shooting has been a bit embarrassing so far. Hoping it’s a confidence thing and that if he can get a goal he will relax a bit. So far though he has been terrible. Even if he gets it on target…. The goals has time to do a few kick ups with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 On 06/05/2023 at 10:45, Goodison Glory said: That's a pretty damming verdict on Onana because gana has had a couple of shots the past few weeks that wouldn't look out of place in Rugby League! Somehow we have three players with the athleticism to play from box-to-box who could be a real threat in the final third but when it comes to composure and technique at striking a ball they are shocking! Doucoure and Onana in particular have the potential to chip in 10 goals a season breaking into the box if they were half decent finishers. Goodison Glory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Another very tidy performance from him tonight. Nothing fancy but just went about his work quietly and I don't think he put a foot wrong. Hafnia, badaids and Wiggytop 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosse Captain Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Could be the ball playing 6 we've been looking for. Works hard. Nothing fancy but can also put a quality pass to a team mate, which most of our other midfielders struggle to do Romey 1878 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Maturity, ticks a lot of boxes. Reminds me of Gareth Barry. London Blue and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 8 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Maturity, ticks a lot of boxes. Reminds me of Gareth Barry. Yeah, I get that vibe and physique. Needs to bulk up a bit more but he's going to be a big player for us. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 17 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Maturity, ticks a lot of boxes. Reminds me of Gareth Barry. 8 minutes ago, Matt said: Yeah, I get that vibe and physique. Needs to bulk up a bit more but he's going to be a big player for us. Think he'll be like Barry and McCarthy in that you won't really notice him but he'll be a key cog, keeping us ticking over. Matt, Hafnia and KinL 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Unlucky not to bag a goal tonight. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 16 hours ago, Matt said: Yeah, I get that vibe and physique. Needs to bulk up a bit more but he's going to be a big player for us. Well, if he bulks up he would becoming bigger. We need him to be a top player as well. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 He definitely looks to have the quality of somebody who could become a mainstay in our midfield. A good age having just turned 22. Nice to see him get a run of games after what has probably been a frustrating season for him. Currently a very high pressure environment for him to perform in and he is doing a job for us. I am looking forward to seeing some set pieces from him - he supposed to have a very good free kick on him. Could maybe do with one in the next few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Btay Posted Monday at 02:43 Popular Post Report Share Posted Monday at 02:43 This lad is going to be some player for us. Build the midfield around him & hopefully Onana kicks on as well next season. plaidharper, dunlopp9987, StevO and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted Monday at 04:07 Report Share Posted Monday at 04:07 I feel about Garner the same way when we got arteta. Finally someone with some composure on the ball and a good pass. Matt, dunlopp9987 and KinL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted Monday at 07:47 Report Share Posted Monday at 07:47 Showed all the promise we hoped for when he signed, one of the first names on the team sheet now. Matt and KinL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted Monday at 08:10 Report Share Posted Monday at 08:10 James Garner looks a player I’m well happy with this signing Matt and KinL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted Monday at 08:19 Report Share Posted Monday at 08:19 I mentioned a while back, he reminds me of Gareth Barry, he has that awareness, composure, technical competence to be trusted to take the ball in tight areas. his head is up all the time so he has a good picture in his head so when he moves the ball he knows where to go, whether it’s a pass or to carry. id sell Onana for the reputed £60m because if we need the money then that represents the best way of doing it. Garner is a player to build around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted Monday at 08:38 Report Share Posted Monday at 08:38 You wouldn't have known he's not a right back or right wing back. He played so well and I can't remember him putting a foot wrong. I'm taking some credit for him being an Everton player by the way. Soon as he signed his pro deal with United I was constantly saying to his family "tell him to get to Everton". Then repeated it when we kept getting linked with a move for him and it actually sounded as though the interest was real and not just paper talk. Obviously I'm joking and I had no influence whatsoever but I'm having it anyway . MikeO, StevO, Matt and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted Monday at 08:41 Report Share Posted Monday at 08:41 I like Garner a lot he’s definitely a footballer in the sense of how he plays and reads the game, also he is very versatile which could be bad news for him but good news for his manager. I personally would like to see him have a good run at being in central position further up field to see if he has the strengths to make that his permanent position. I think as a team the players around him would benefit greatly from his vision and ability on the ball, they would be more confident in making runs knowing they are likely to receive the ball, where as now they make a run get left hanging and look out of position, I would like him to get the opportunity to see if he is the man to unlock defences, or just a good all rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad all over Posted Monday at 09:02 Report Share Posted Monday at 09:02 Future captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt Posted Monday at 10:59 Popular Post Report Share Posted Monday at 10:59 He is light-years ahead of a lot of players I the league for his mentality. Now he needs experience, to be starting every week (so long as he continues to earn it). A real gem in the making here. Romey 1878, Fosse Captain, StevO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Newty82 Posted Monday at 12:53 Popular Post Report Share Posted Monday at 12:53 Been getting better with every game. I like what he's about. Hopefully we'll add some depth to the squad so he can be left to do his graft where he should. Fosse Captain, KinL, StevO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosse Captain Posted Tuesday at 19:21 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 19:21 Think he could be our best CM for a long while. Really impressed with him KinL and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted Thursday at 13:23 Report Share Posted Thursday at 13:23 On 29/05/2023 at 09:38, Romey 1878 said: You wouldn't have known he's not a right back or right wing back. He played so well and I can't remember him putting a foot wrong. This was the most impressive bit about his performance. When I watched his first few games I was worried about his defensive ability but that show on Sunday was impeccable and he is really shining under Dyche. You probably wont like this comparison, but I see him as a bit like our Ward-Prowse. Really impressive technical ability, a good head on his shoulders and the rest of his all round game is solid. Matt and KinL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted Thursday at 13:24 Report Share Posted Thursday at 13:24 Just now, Bailey said: This was the most impressive bit about his performance. When I watched his first few games I was worried about his defensive ability but that show on Sunday was impeccable and he is really shining under Dyche. You probably wont like this comparison, but I see him as a bit like our Ward-Prowse. Really impressive technical ability, a good head on his shoulders and the rest of his all round game is solid. Wash your mouth out! Matt and Bailey 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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