Isaiah Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 4 minutes ago, Aidan said: Sigh. This one his last in charge yet or what? It has to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Just now, Bailey said: McNeil shite. Patterson shite. Gana shite. Those 3 along with One of Tarks or Coady needs to be sent to the changing room. Davies has been a ghost this match, forgot he was on. But would have kept him on before any of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, dunlopp9987 said: If it wasn't for the City result, Frank would be gone tonight What makes you think he won't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 New low, madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: If it wasn't for the City result, Frank would be gone tonight The City result was a freak because we kept 11 men behind the ball. These are the games we have to get results in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 That’s 3 wins in 18. Man City performance is OK but a gray worldly saves us and he does that max 3 times a season. We now have 6 CBs 3 we paid 30 million for and we can’t defend for shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinL Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 I've seen some shite in my 56 years of supporting Everton, but this is taking me to my lowest point. Gwlad all over, Trigger, plaidharper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinL Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 It's OK now, Maupay is on to save the day, its gonna end up 5-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Not sure how anyone has seen anything in this game for us. After our first 10 minutes Brighton have looked like Man City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 After this much money and recruitment I don’t think since Lukaku and Barkley days have we had more than 1 or two players worth the money we paid. Maybe richy and Pickford would be exceptions. this maybe controversial but Iwobis “transformation” is bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 I’d have more respect if he resigned he has not had success at lower levels to have got anywhere near this job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Fucking hell Gray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 The way Brighton one touch passed it round our area, none of our players can do that taking the piss. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Hafnia said: The way Brighton one touch passed it round our area, none of our players can do that taking the piss. The technical ability and confidence in their players compared to ours is stark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 3 Author Report Share Posted January 3 I just want my club back Gwlad all over and KinL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Lampard will be gone tonight. “Sack the board” shouts….. they won’t have that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 This brighton manager has had this squad since September and this is the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 This is thoroughly depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 They are absolutely battering us too. KinL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Surely this is the lowest low we have ever been. I would be surprised if Frank isn't gone by tomorrow. I would resign if I was him. KinL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 20 minutes ago, Palfy said: What makes you think he won't be. I think the board will use the City result (and Frank might as well) to justify keeping him for a bit longer. Otherwise yes, he absolutely would be gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Lampard needs to do the honourable thing and resign, it's not like he needs the money. He needs to admit he's totally out of his depth and stop embarrassing himself and us. KinL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Can ppl see with the right manager getting a good team from this squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Just now, memmaclub2 said: Can ppl see with the right manager getting a good team from this squad? No, and that's a huge part of the problem. Frank and his staff might not be the right answer, but this performance tonight from the players is all the evidence you need that the squad is horrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, memmaclub2 said: Can ppl see with the right manager getting a good team from this squad? Yes, I can see us lower mid but safe with a proper manager. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 3 Author Report Share Posted January 3 Good ball by Simms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: No, and that's a huge part of the problem. Frank and his staff might not be the right answer, but this performance tonight from the players is all the evidence you need that the squad is horrible Well that just compounds the problem when you see a good percentage of players are his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Just now, dunlopp9987 said: No, and that's a huge part of the problem. Frank and his staff might not be the right answer, but this performance tonight from the players is all the evidence you need that the squad is horrible This is all well and good but Lampard brought in a bunch of players in the summer and Dele Alli is out on loan. We can't keep getting a new manager in, buying half a dozen players and then going, oh these players are rotten too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: No, and that's a huge part of the problem. Frank and his staff might not be the right answer, but this performance tonight from the players is all the evidence you need that the squad is horrible Can’t disagree I think with coaching and the right tactic the defence should be a decent mid table. The midfield we just have a rabble of old managers dross. DcL if you build the team around him he could be a 20 goal striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Now I’ve let my emotions settle a bit. The manager needs to win on Friday for me. He needs to show some guys and drop a few players. Show some emotion. If he goes…. I’m honestly not bothered who comes in, as it’s really simple… we have shit players. Get rid of as many as these slow ass players as possible. Get some players in with energy who aren’t scared to put a foot in. Players who aren’t scared to take a shot. Good finish Gray. Easily our best player yet again. Too good for this team. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 I hope whoever takes this scores! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 3 Author Report Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Palfy said: Well that just compounds the problem when you see a good percentage of players are his. 1 minute ago, Bailey said: This is all well and good but Lampard brought in a bunch of players in the summer and Dele Alli is out on loan. We can't keep getting a new manager in, buying half a dozen players and then going, oh these players are rotten too. Problem is though we’ve hardly been able to do anything of note in the transfer window because the board have absolutely fucked this club. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Seamus has done well since he came on. He should be starting ahead of Patterson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 3 Author Report Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Shukes said: Now I’ve let my emotions settle a bit. The manager needs to win on Friday for me. He needs to show some guys and drop a few players. Show some emotion. If he goes…. I’m honestly not bothered who comes in, as it’s really simple… we have shit players. Get rid of as many as these slow ass players as possible. Get some players in with energy who aren’t scared to put a foot in. Players who aren’t scared to take a shot. Good finish Gray. Easily our best player yet again. Too good for this team. I agree. Normally I’m one of the last on board to sack a manager but that was absolutely horrid. I just don’t care anymore, I want all the rotten players, people & board members far, far away from this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Just now, Bailey said: Seamus has done well since he came on. He should be starting ahead of Patterson. He might due to injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Btay said: Problem is though we’ve hardly been able to do anything of note in the transfer window because the board have absolutely fucked this club. He spent 60 mil in the summer and only lost 1 player. I don’t think lampard can say he wasn’t given a fair crack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 17 minutes ago, memmaclub2 said: This brighton manager has had this squad since September and this is the result. That's the result of a club run properly behind the scenes. It's why their DoF is highly regarded. RuffRob and dunlopp9987 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Btay said: Problem is though we’ve hardly been able to do anything of note in the transfer window because the board have absolutely fucked this club. I get that there are clearly some questionable transfers but our financial issues stem from trying to support a manager that has let them down. I think Silva was a little unlucky with the sale of Gueye and buying a crock, but Gbamin wasnt a board signing. Its not like the board have bled money from the club, they have invested heavily, backed managers and been let down, repeatedly. That is also down to them as well, buck always stops at the top but we have bought heavily and its not worked. KinL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 3 Author Report Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, memmaclub2 said: He spent 60 mil in the summer and only lost 1 player. I don’t think lampard can say he wasn’t given a fair crack He lost a 60 mil player and had to get what, 6 players in with that money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Just now, Newty82 said: That's the result of a club run properly behind the scenes. It's why their DoF is highly regarded. Yep their model is awesome for them. I don’t see it being that difficult to replicate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, memmaclub2 said: Yep their model is awesome for them. I don’t see it being that difficult to replicate. It shouldn't be...if the people above the DoF know what they're doing. This will remain our problem whoever is Managing the team. Unfortunately. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, Btay said: He lost a 60 mil player and had to get what, 6 players in with that money? Can’t say the recruitment was high quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Newty82 said: That's the result of a club run properly behind the scenes. It's why their DoF is highly regarded. In fairness to him he was Potters assistant took over the reins when Potter left, and has improved them hugely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 3 Author Report Share Posted January 3 Just now, Bailey said: I get that there are clearly some questionable transfers but our financial issues stem from trying to support a manager that has let them down. I think Silva was a little unlucky with the sale of Gueye and buying a crock, but Gbamin wasnt a board signing. Its not like the board have bled money from the club, they have invested heavily, backed managers and been let down, repeatedly. That is also down to them as well, buck always stops at the top but we have bought heavily and its not worked. I think we panicked far too early with Roberto. I never felt much for Koeman but I feel we sacked Silva far to soon. Gbamin ticked all the right boxes a signing, there was no way to know it would go the way it did.. We’re just going to keep going down the same path though until we get relegated. Sack, spend, sack, spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 What was the tactic in that game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 That game was reminiscent of Spurs last season for me. You can't play that way with that squad against a team that know how to counter attack. Despite the space given to us, we are a terrible attacking team and we played a game of best attack wins. Unsurprisingly, we lost. Unless we are setting up with every man behind the ball, playing for a draw, I am afraid Lampard just doesn't know how to set his team out to win games. It has been evident for a long time and it isn't improving. I just do not see how he moves on from this. KinL and RuffRob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 We just don't have the player to try and 'play' football. As sad as it it we need to play like we did against Man City home and away and against every team and try and nick the occasional 1-0. I thought Frank might of gone three at the back again tonight, be solid first and foremost to make sure we don't lose, and hopefully take any chances that came our way. Basically build on that solid City result and just slowly build confidence back in to the squad. I wouldn't have criticized a cautious approach for the next few games. We are simply not a good enough premiership side to take the game to other teams - only a few teams can actually do this and we really are not one of them. We don't have either the time or resources to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 7 minutes ago, Palfy said: In fairness to him he was Potters assistant took over the reins when Potter left, and has improved them hugely. Yeah exactly mate. Like in business, the Assistant Managers are part of the succession plan. If done properly! Us? We'll just sack every fucker and start again. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 6 minutes ago, Btay said: I think we panicked far too early with Roberto. I never felt much for Koeman but I feel we sacked Silva far to soon. Gbamin ticked all the right boxes a signing, there was no way to know it would go the way it did.. We’re just going to keep going down the same path though until we get relegated. Sack, spend, sack, spend. but the problem being we are now very much spent up - and are thus one of the weakest teams financially in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsta Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 It was said last year we are the worst run club in Europe, nothing has changed, whilst it will be Frank who carries the can, its the owners we need out of the club. RuffRob and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPG Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Sacking Lampard may appear justified but I don't think it would solve our problems. They run too deep. dunlopp9987 and RuffRob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, Newty82 said: Yeah exactly mate. Like in business, the Assistant Managers are part of the succession plan. If done properly! Us? We'll just sack every fucker and start again. we don't have enough success for any sort of succession planning dunlopp9987, Bailey and Newty82 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Toffee Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Sadly I think we hit our bottom but nope, we can find more bottoms. Especially when Southampton beats us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 9 minutes ago, Boston Toffee said: Sadly I think we hit our bottom but nope, we can find more bottoms. Especially when Southampton beats us Don't tempt me with a good time! plaidharper, Boston Toffee, Bailey and 1 other 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPG Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, Boston Toffee said: Sadly I think we hit our bottom but nope, we can find more bottoms. Especially when Southampton beats us It reminds me of a previous employer. I learned to expect nothing from them and yet they still found a way to disappoint me! Boston Toffee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 So glad I missed this tonight, looks like we have reached the same moment as Watford at homeast season. Whether Lampard stays or not we're going down this season. RPG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Just occurred to me that transfers are available we have to cut Frank now give the guy as chance to drive signings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPG Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, memmaclub2 said: Just occurred to me that transfers are available we have to cut Frank now give the guy as chance to drive signings Sacking Frank won't sort the problems. The rot goes much higher up the food chain. And if we did sack Frank, can you imagine the backlash on the board - who could have sacked him before the World Cup and have had 6 weeks to find a new manager and identify January transfer targets. I think we are past the point of no return and have to go 'all in' with Frank and just hope that we can do enough business in the window to keep us up. badaids and dunlopp9987 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, RPG said: Sacking Frank won't sort the problems. The rot goes much higher up the food chain. And if we did sack Frank, can you imagine the backlash on the board - who could have sacked him before the World Cup and have had 6 weeks to find a new manager and identify January transfer targets. I think we are past the point of no return and have to go 'all in' with Frank and just hope that we can do enough business in the window to keep us up. I would very much hope that the DoF already has a shortlist of managers ready to go. If Thelwell really is pulling the strings now, I would expect the sacking of Lampard to be closely followed by the hiring of the next manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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