Cornish Steve Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 ...formerly Twitter. Personally, I detest Elon Musk and distrust him completely. He owns most satellite communication and has used it to thwart Ukrainian attacks. He owns X, which every world leader now uses. He's imposing rules on X that he himself breaks every day (including the use of AI to post blatant lies). He just praised an interview with a Holocaust denier. He's using his clout to get Trump re-elected, and in return Trump has vowed to bring him into the government. So, in my own small way, I refuse to use X - which means I can't view many things posted here. When possible, can we search for other outlets when sharing something? I try to use Youtube, for example. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 5 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: ...formerly Twitter. Personally, I detest Elon Musk and distrust him completely. He owns most satellite communication and has used it to thwart Ukrainian attacks. He owns X, which every world leader now uses. He's imposing rules on X that he himself breaks every day (including the use of AI to post blatant lies). He just praised an interview with a Holocaust denier. He's using his clout to get Trump re-elected, and in return Trump has vowed to bring him into the government. So, in my own small way, I refuse to use X - which means I can't view many things posted here. When possible, can we search for other outlets when sharing something? I try to use Youtube, for example. Then every leader is an idiot. I rest my case. But I never have or will use X, formerly known as Twitter. Never had the need. It's true some here post from X and YouTube and that brings me to something that I'd like to see here. Please write a small description or just some copy/paste of what you're linking. Thank you. Palfy and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 5 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: ...formerly Twitter. Personally, I detest Elon Musk and distrust him completely. He owns most satellite communication and has used it to thwart Ukrainian attacks. He owns X, which every world leader now uses. He's imposing rules on X that he himself breaks every day (including the use of AI to post blatant lies). He just praised an interview with a Holocaust denier. He's using his clout to get Trump re-elected, and in return Trump has vowed to bring him into the government. So, in my own small way, I refuse to use X - which means I can't view many things posted here. When possible, can we search for other outlets when sharing something? I try to use Youtube, for example. I was under the impression he helped the Ukrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 8 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: ...formerly Twitter. Personally, I detest Elon Musk and distrust him completely. He owns most satellite communication and has used it to thwart Ukrainian attacks. He owns X, which every world leader now uses. He's imposing rules on X that he himself breaks every day (including the use of AI to post blatant lies). He just praised an interview with a Holocaust denier. He's using his clout to get Trump re-elected, and in return Trump has vowed to bring him into the government. So, in my own small way, I refuse to use X - which means I can't view many things posted here. When possible, can we search for other outlets when sharing something? I try to use Youtube, for example. How is that any different to YT, Daily Mail etc? Sorry, Steve. As much as I'm disappointed in Musk's decline into insanity, he's no different to any of the other media moguls. I refused to acknowledge the new name because it would probably piss him off. So it will remain Twatter for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 2 hours ago, patto said: I was under the impression he helped the Ukrain He is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 To the question. Yes. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 8 hours ago, Matt said: He is. In what way is he helping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 Yes I’ve never had an account and I’m doing very well without it. Those who think they can’t live without it I would say really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 9 Author Report Share Posted September 9 10 hours ago, patto said: I was under the impression he helped the Ukrain Not at all. This is just one example of the power he has... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-ukraine-russia-war-starlink-satellite-denied-major-act-of-war/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 31 minutes ago, Palfy said: In what way is he helping. He's provided free internet. Yes he stepped in when that was being used to facilitate an attack because it implicates him as an accessory. So he's doing no different to all the allies who sent weapons to Ukraine but then doesn't allow certain scenarios for usage. I don't agree with his decisions but I understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 8 hours ago, Matt said: As much as I'm disappointed in Musk's decline into insanity, he's no different to any of the other media moguls. He's become more of a "Bond Villain" than any fictional one ever was. Have you seen "Don't Look Up"? Perfect. Matt and Sev 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 Just now, MikeO said: He's become more of a "Bond Villain" than any fictional one ever was. Have you seen "Don't Look Up"? Perfect. It is quite startling. He used to be revered, a genuine hope for a Tony Stark kind of character arch, except he's doing it in reverse. Very troubling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 I can guarantee you that the only person E. Musk helps and support is himself. dunlopp9987, Romey 1878 and Palfy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 2 hours ago, Matt said: He's provided free internet. Yes he stepped in when that was being used to facilitate an attack because it implicates him as an accessory. So he's doing no different to all the allies who sent weapons to Ukraine but then doesn't allow certain scenarios for usage. I don't agree with his decisions but I understand it. In 2023 he withdrew their free use of Starlink, the USA now pay for Ukraine’s use. Russia have also been using Starlink through receiving the equipment by others, he can’t sell directly to Russia because of the trade embargo, but he knows Russia are using it but does nothing to block their use. He along with with Trump don’t want to help Ukraine, and since Trump has offered him a role in government should he be elected he’s done everything in his power to thwart Ukraine in it’s war with Russia. He doesn’t stop Ukraine from using Starlink because he was warned if he did Biden threatened howas going to cut his defence contracts with the Government, if Trump wins that threat will be lifted and he will stop Ukraine using Starlink with Trumps blessing. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 3 hours ago, Palfy said: 1. In 2023 he withdrew their free use of Starlink, the USA now pay for Ukraine’s use. 2. Russia have also been using Starlink through receiving the equipment by others, he can’t sell directly to Russia because of the trade embargo, but he knows Russia are using it but does nothing to block their use. 3. He along with with Trump don’t want to help Ukraine, and since Trump has offered him a role in government should he be elected he’s done everything in his power to thwart Ukraine in it’s war with Russia. 4. He doesn’t stop Ukraine from using Starlink because he was warned if he did Biden threatened howas going to cut his defence contracts with the Government, if Trump wins that threat will be lifted and he will stop Ukraine using Starlink with Trumps blessing. 1. Up until 2023, he paid. Are you suggesting Elon should keep paying out of his pockets for all of Ukraine? Also the US are paying for Starshield, which he created for US government and military customers only with the main goal to provide the service for the US intelligence. It is a very specific contract between them that offers different services from the regular Starlink service. 2. Starlink is blocked over Russian territory, but not over most of the occupied territories and the front line because it's very difficult to cut the signal at an exact location. His service uses servers that anyone outside of Russia can purchase. It's true that many are used by Russians near the Ukrainian border because, believe it or not, anyone can import them or sell them to Russians. Even Russians can buy them outside of Russia, as that’s how most businesses operate. No one can prevent them from importing the equipment. However, he is not selling them servers or providing the service in Russia. Those who use it do so illegally. 3. Trump clearly stated that the war would stop in the first week of him becoming president. How is peace not helping Ukraine? No more war, no more deaths, again how is that not helping Ukraine?! 4. That sounds like a conspiracy theory. As far as I know, no one has ever suggested that, not even Elon himself. These speculations arise when he stopped offering the service for free at some point in 2023 also when he denied to extend the coverage over Crimea. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 Yes, it fully is possible. I think I had a Twitter account for about 2 seconds a few years ago, maybe tweeted 3 times. I already didn't give a shit about it but then add on top of it the fact that Musk is an absolute douche nozzle? Easy decision. Social media in general I've stayed away from for the last few years. I'm 37, full millennial, but it just got to be too much. Deactivated my Facebook in 2019, have had Instagram deleted off my phone for the better part of 2 years (with the exception of a post every 6 months or so) MikeO, Palfy and Matt 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 5 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: Yes, it fully is possible. I think I had a Twitter account for about 2 seconds a few years ago, maybe tweeted 3 times. I already didn't give a shit about it but then add on top of it the fact that Musk is an absolute douche nozzle? Easy decision. Social media in general I've stayed away from for the last few years. I'm 37, full millennial, but it just got to be too much. Deactivated my Facebook in 2019, have had Instagram deleted off my phone for the better part of 2 years (with the exception of a post every 6 months or so) I'm also very much off social media. I have a Facebook account but that's purely to talk with my in-laws (as they use it as their primary mode of communication). I'll flick through Instagram every now and then but only use X for Everton news (I don't tweet at all) and don't have Snapchat, TikTok etc. Despite growing up in the early ages of social media, I'd be quite happy with it out of my life. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 Pretty much the same here. I have TT and Twatter for links posted on TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 Social media sites are the biggest threat to our lives and democracy, the latest riots being a great example. Australia are in the process of making it illegal for any child under 16 or 14 years old to be allowed to use or open accounts on social media platforms, if they can make this work what a great start to life most of these kids will have, free from the predators and prejudices of idiots whose ideology is to foster hate using these sites. What amazes me is how we band these sites together under the banner of Social Media which makes them sound like they are a source for good, when in reality they are a breeding ground for the most evil anti social people on the planet, and unfortunately even adults are being brainwashed by the content that is freely accessible, so what chance do our children have, no wonder we have the biggest mental health issues ever experienced in our society’s since the beginning of Social Media platforms. There is also a great article in the Guardians education section on the effects of social media platforms on children and their mental health, I would urge any parents who allow their children to have phones with internet access to read the article, it cannot but shock you into the realisation of what harm these sites are having on your child’s future and mental health and wellbeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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