toolio Posted December 19, 2006 Report Posted December 19, 2006 after watching the 3-2 home to defeat to chelsea as most evertonians i was left dissapointed good performance by the team apart from carsley, davies, and imo howard could have done better but what worried me was the fact david moyes waited until 91 mins to put the 2 james's on, when it was obvious vic and mik were nuckin fakered that ti me makes me question david moyes and it makes me feel like what the fuck is the point in that davie anyone agree or disagree or know where im coming from Quote
Pat Posted December 19, 2006 Report Posted December 19, 2006 I would have perhaps brought reinforcemnts on a bit earlier yes. But due to the make up of Bench Atatcking options were about it. Think Davey felt we'd get a point & at 2-2 couldnt really question that. Quote
Romey 1878 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Posted December 19, 2006 Ive questioned him on other occasions but not this time, I would have left the team as it was and I just thought it was pointless bringing the two James' on at all because they wouldnt have contributed even if it had have happened earlier. Quote
StevO Posted December 19, 2006 Report Posted December 19, 2006 after watching the 3-2 home to defeat to chelsea as most evertonians i was left dissapointed good performance by the team apart from carsley, davies, and imo howard could have done better but what worried me was the fact david moyes waited until 91 mins to put the 2 james's on, when it was obvious vic and mik were nuckin fakered that ti me makes me question david moyes and it makes me feel like what the fuck is the point in that davie anyone agree or disagree or know where im coming from i thought Davies did well(probably his best in a blue shirt for me), and Cars broke up play as per usual. ill say time and again, you'll notice him when he isnt there (last season anybody?) id have left Big Vic on, he was causing all sorts of problems for their defence, BT came on, what did he do? give away a free kick before even touching the ball. i would have taken off Osman for Jimmy Mc thou Quote
GoldfishMemory Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 Dont know if I'd question Sunday but he's piss poor with subs and why dont we close players down anymore? We once hunted in packs when we lost the ball, now we back off and invite the shot which has caused heart ache so many times this season especially against the better teams! Quote
fcssl Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 Personally, I think that Moyes tactics are pretty good...however he does leave changes very late...sometimes too late to expect anything. Quote
Bill Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 Personally, I think that Moyes tactics are pretty good...however he does leave changes very late...sometimes too late to expect anything. Sometimes he brings them on just to kill a bit of time AS WAS THE CASE OF BRINGING ON SUBS IN TIME ADDED ON. And sometimes those he brings on, play worse than the players going off. So .....no i dont think he's very good at tactical substitutions, But he's still learning. Quote
java2001e Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 the goals by chelski were late in the game so he didnt need to bring on anyone earlier. and when he did compare what we had to bring on to chelski! the had a 100 million quid sitting on the bench! i dont blame moyes for the loss but i do blame the players. carsley is a seasoned veteran and to handle that ball as he did was incredibly foolish. both late goals by lampard and drogba occurred because their markers gave them too much space and time. lampard especially had way too much time to setup his shot. thats the kind of carelessness that you can't afford against talent like that. you have to stick to them like glue and harrass them as soon as they get near to the ball. ive no doubt that moysey had a few words with them after the game. very strong words i hope. if certain players had maintained their concentration we would have won that game! Quote
Pat Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 Much 2 my suprise of late...Moyes teams have been pretty much what ends up on my sketch pad a cple hrs before matches. Must be the injuries as Davey & I often differ on weekday lineup's. Lately the tactics ahve been do the best with what one ahs. A bit harsh to take to task under those restraints. Be interestinmg to see when we have a full squad ( 1 day) of players to choose from, formations to field / change etc with cunning tactical ploys to implement. Quote
RuffRob Posted December 22, 2006 Report Posted December 22, 2006 At 2-2 against Chelsea, near the end of the game against Chelsea you don't really want to be bringing attacking players on. As they smell blood and will be going hell for leather for the win. You have got to try and hold on considering the players they have. I wonder goal by Drogba a few minutes from the end, doesn't give you much time to get players on the pitch. I imagine he got them on as soon as he could once we lost the 3rd goal. So can't really poo poo his tactics on Sunday. Quote
Zed Posted December 22, 2006 Report Posted December 22, 2006 When it was 2-2 we thought we'd done it and would have all gone home happy We were undone by a fantastic shot, which no keeper in the world would have got For both the 3rd and 2nd goals Howard was in his six yard box. You have sometimes got to hold your hands up (NO PUN INTENDED) and say we were done. Yes, the defence could have closed down more. But I thought the team, game & crowd were fan-fuckin-tastic. I only hope theres a few more games like that WHICH WE WIN As for tactics, we were ahead twice and playing the current champoins with not many options on the bench, although I would have brought Mcfad on for Arteta about 15mins to go as he would have got stuck in as always NIL SATIT NISI OPTIMISM Quote
fcssl Posted December 23, 2006 Report Posted December 23, 2006 Well, Moyes tactics worked well today (Sat 23rd Dec '06) at Reading. So as the saying goes "You are only as good as your last game", therefore we are very good! lol! Quote
CraccerC Posted December 24, 2006 Report Posted December 24, 2006 bad ... although we beat reading we did same as always back fuoot ...they cud and perhaps shudda scored atleast once Quote
fcssl Posted December 24, 2006 Report Posted December 24, 2006 I think that in some respect, Moyes should be respected for the decisions that he made pre-game against Reading. Despite the fact he had picked his squad, and formation, he was able to adapt at last minute when Stubbs pulled a muscle in the warm-up. Personally, although I don't think that Naysmith is the answer, nor the best, it benefited us as he played both Lescott and Yobo in central defence, which is their strongest positions. Many of the recent mistakes that Yobo has made is due to the fact that he has been playing out wide - which he seemingly struggles to do successfully. Quote
KillaGTiR Posted December 25, 2006 Report Posted December 25, 2006 he's piss poor with subs i dont know why he dont play the guys you has on the bench this why we could have players that would be 100% and run the socks off at the end of the match and rest the players he brings off Quote
CraccerC Posted December 25, 2006 Report Posted December 25, 2006 i think he has decent tactics until we score, then what the fuck he tells the players i'lll never know, probably somethin along the lines of 'set up camp on the edge of the box....midfield i wanna see you play in behind the defence, and strikers come back and join in' Quote
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