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I'd defo say Lescott is better than Carra.

 

But, there are some good defenders who are there, Woodgate has been playing pretty well at the moment and as well is Dawson so its a difficult decision by McLaren (don't like him tho). But saying that it is a friendly so its an ideal time to experiment. Maybe in the next friendly he'll be callled up. He better be.

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Apparently some of the senior squad told McClaren not to pick him. What a joke that is, they were just scared they'd lose their places that they've held with almost no risk of losing it. I'd rather have Barton in the centre for England than Lampard, not that the manager will be brave enough for that.

 

 

Barton had every right to criticise some players for bringing out autobiographies about their meaningless lives to make a quick buck from fans when they already have enough money.

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id agree, i think lescott will be better than carra but at the moment carra has got experience.

 

the fact that dawson is picked though is a joke. Him and Jenas should not be anywhere near the england team.

 

 

Dawson is good though, he's one of Spurs few consistent performers. Jenas I agree with, he's shite.

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I just don't rate him that highly. Don't think hes england quality yet. He's still young though and no doubt will improve, especially along side King, who has been unfortunate with injuries bith i think when fit should be on the negland bench as our sub CB or holding midfield above someone like carrick. an 18m waste of space.

 

remeber how class King played against France, didnt let zidane have a touch

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id agree, i think lescott will be better than carra but at the moment carra has got experience.

 

the fact that dawson is picked though is a joke. Him and Jenas should not be anywhere near the england team.

 

Isn't that the whole point of friendlies? Give players some experience of what its like.

 

But, I agree with Mark. I rate Dawson as well and no doubt Spurs fans will be saying he deserves it more that Lescott.

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this is the starting line up

 

 

---------------Foster-----------------

G Neville Ferdinand Woodgate Pip

 

SWP Carrick Lampard Gerrard

 

-----------Dyer------------------

 

------------Crouch-------------

 

 

 

 

what are peoples thoughts, will be ionteresting to see how foster plays, i dont like robinson so will be good to see him in action for england

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I'm seriously starting to lose interest in England (been slowly not caring for ages now since we sold Rooney). But now I'm at my lowest. We get rid of one FA boy (sven) to replace him with another. I want some one will balls as an England coach.

 

I mean, why is Lampard still in the England squad, how many bad performances in an England shirt is it going to take?

 

I know a lot of people rate Carrick but I don't see why barton hasn't been given the nod ahead of him. And Gerrerd on the wing again its obvious it doesn't work...wish the England managers would stop picking some favourite players grow some bollocks and choice people who deserve to be playing because of their performance and not because of who they are and who they play for. And not sure about Dyer, don't think hes done enough to get a call up.

 

I'm sure a lot will disagree but I honeslty think England a shite, and if we don't get someone in to play who wants to play then we are screwed. Its not like we don't have world class players but just a shit system. As Sir Alf Ramsey said (I think it was him) "Its better to have an individual team rather than a team full of individuals" Well something liek that...

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I'm seriously starting to lose interest in England (been slowly not caring for ages now since we sold Rooney). But now I'm at my lowest. We get rid of one FA boy (sven) to replace him with another. I want some one will balls as an England coach.

 

I mean, why is Lampard still in the England squad, how many bad performances in an England shirt is it going to take?

 

I know a lot of people rate Carrick but I don't see why barton hasn't been given the nod ahead of him. And Gerrerd on the wing again its obvious it doesn't work...wish the England managers would stop picking some favourite players grow some bollocks and choice people who deserve to be playing because of their performance and not because of who they are and who they play for. And not sure about Dyer, don't think hes done enough to get a call up.

 

I'm sure a lot will disagree but I honeslty think England a shite, and if we don't get someone in to play who wants to play then we are screwed. Its not like we don't have world class players but just a shit system. As Sir Alf Ramsey said (I think it was him) "Its better to have an individual team rather than a team full of individuals" Well something liek that...

 

surprised you dont really care about the national team anymore, i agree that we dont play to our strenghts and we pick the big name players over possibly the better positional players. but i think you should stick with your national team thick and thin, otherwise you become a glory hunter.

 

i think with lampards play in the prem at the moment he deserves a place in the squad, however his displays for the national team do not deserve him a place in the starting line up. wouldn't you love to see him on the bench? he could be a substitue that could make a difference! which is the main thing that is the problem with england managemtn, they are affraid to have "big" players on the bench, when in fact that could really improve the team as we don't ever really have anyone who can come on and change a game. what did someone like downing do when he came on the in the world cup? Nothing!

 

 

anyway im rambelling now.

 

 

but you should always fully support the national team. You choose your club not your country

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Knew the firing squad would be out on what I said, and they're not finished yet :P

 

But, for the sake of the arguement :) I still support them, always have and always will, but that doesn't mean I have to be content with the woeful lacklustre performances from so called world class players, or the endless excuses or the manager who picks his favourite rather than who deserves it.

I've had countless of heated arguements with Scots, Welsh and even live with an Irishman so few there a few arguements when England play ;)

 

I've lost interest as its pretty much the same squad every game, and every game we play pants. Maybe one or two new people in there but even then, some of those are played out of position which is just stupid.

 

As I said, always support them but when we get beat in friendlies or play crap I care a lot less than I did. Even in competition I'm not that fussed. I was in tears in '98. I was laughin in Germany in 2006.

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it does get annoying when we play the same squad every game, everyfan in the world knows we can't play lamps and gerrard in the same squad yet we still try, its stupid.

 

wish we had a mor dynamic manager, mcclarren is just mind numbling unispiring. the tony blair of football, thinks that aslong as he keeps smiling then noone will notice that he hasn't got a clue.

 

the main problem we have is, and for a very long time has been, the left wing.

 

our only decent left winger is stewart downing. and hes not the best. and Joe cole is good but he's not a lfet winger as he has a crap left foot. i get sick of him playing like a crab and always moving in sideways.

 

if only giggs had chosen england!!!

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i said in a game that counts, that was a friendly

 

2002 World cup qualifying game actually.

 

I find it hard to get excited about the England team as well. Always think we're going to pull it around but it never happens, you'd think I know better at my age. My interest increases the more Everton players there are in the team, the '86 World Cup was great for a couple of games until the cheating bastard midgit got into the act. Robson was forced by injury and suspension after the first two games to play the team all Evertonians knew he should have started with. Wilkins and Brian Robson were the underperforming Lampard and Gerrard of the day and without them we flew. Fucking great headline in one of the papers I stuck on my wall at work..

 

ENGLAND OWE IT TO EVERTON

 

It was great while it lasted...and if Reidy had slice Maradonna in two when he had the chance it could have been better.

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:lol::lol: Nothing else i can say to that.

 

You're too polite for your own good sometimes Bill :D .

 

Sven's team talk...

 

"It's allright lads, take it easy tonight, it's only a qualifier after all. Just 'cos they beat us at Wembley when that little bloke was in charge and we're six points behind them....not to worry. We've got four points in hand over the Greeks after all so we may still scrape a play-off place...just enjoy yourselves eh." (you'll have to do your own Swedish accent)

 

Sorry Jamie but, to state the obvious, if you don't qualify you don't get to play ;) .

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thats why i too dislike england. i'll still watch and support but i really do dislike them. why oh why do we fail to deliver? we have argubely the best squad of players in the world yet we still play like shit

 

Aaron, consider the following:

  • Manager
  • Tactics
  • Determination
  • Prima Donna
  • Media
  • Favoritism
  • Big Four
  • Rupert Murdock (maybe)

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Its all Carricks fault, everything. Even when he hasn't played it his fault

 

here is a list of reasons why carrick is rubbish

 

Micheal Carrick is shit... FACT

 

Most problems in the world can be attributed to this crap person.

 

Here is a list of things that he has done wrong:-

 

1- He is not worth £18m, he is not worth £18, he is not worth 18p....

 

2- He should not play for england becasue he cannot pass a ball or tackel

 

3-He has single handedly caused third world debt

 

4- He throws puppies from trains (though this is funny when done between two moving trains so said puppy bounces between them with a comical squeeling noise)

 

5-He killed jesus

 

6-He killed JFK

 

7-He does smelly egg farts that burn away the o-zone layer

 

8-He is a Nazi

 

9- He invented the Nuke and tests it on children

 

10-He loves french people

 

11-He started the AIDS virus and laughs about it all the time

 

12- He always wears a thong under his shorts and then rubs its man sweat on replica shirts in the Man Utd club shop so l;ittle children go home with his man sweat on them....gross

 

13-He loves juggleing (in case you dont already know juggeling in inherintly evil)

 

14-He never misses Keeping Up Appearences on a sunday afternoon and laughs at the capers the Buckets get into...Idiot

 

15-His favourite film is Bambi

 

16-His favourite band is Level 42

 

17-He likes to eat dogs

 

18-He has a pet cat but never feeds it

 

19-He kicks old people in the teeth

 

20-He plays for Man Utd

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