Next Season

[SimonButtle]

it looks like if we get rid of the usual suspects in the summer, Carsley (Free) Stubbs (Free) Wright (1m) Anderson (Free) Pistone (Free) Fernandes (Loan return) we would only be left with the following:

 

Tim Howard

John Ruddy (Unproven)

Iain Turner (Unproven)

Tony Hibbert

Phil Neville

Gary Naysmith (Shite)

Nuno Valente

Patrick Boyle (Unproven)

Joleon Lescott

Joseph Yobo

Andy van der Meyde (Never fit enough)

Tim Cahill

Mikel Arteta (Could Go)

Leon Osman

Bjarni Vidarsson (Unproven, shite?)

Andy Johnson

James Beattie (Shite)

James McFadden (Shite)

James Vaughan (Unproven)

Victor Anichebe (Unproven)

 

Not a good outlook when you see it written down is it? and people are happy with the squad moyes has built and his work, not me, walk in the summer please DM i can't watch another year of 1 up front and substitutions like that the other night.

 

does anyone know who the former player was that confronted moyes the other night and had to be pulled away in the end as it was getting quite heated.

Edited February 23, 2007 by The Prisoner

[jamiemaher85]

just one thing, i wouldn't say that young victor was shite.

 

the rest dont look good though- we need a real overhall

[StevO]

prisoner get a grip, let carsley and stubbs go, but we'll keep vdm.

 

who can replace moyes?

[Bill]

we might be without Ruddy and Turner BY NEXT SEASON. Ruddy,s out on loan at the mo, and Turner's going to sheff weds on loan. Can you understand why all our young players are Fookin off, why not send Teflon on loan and put the youngsters on the bench.

 

PS............ you can also remove Beatie, naysmith, and V D Meyde from that squad, i'll be very surprised and angry if they are still here.

[Romey 1878]

We are going to be up shit creek if we don't do some serious player buying in the summer. If it doesnt happen it's another nail in Moyes' coffin.

[jamiemaher85]

^^^

 

agree with you, i don't like joining the "anti-moyes bandwagon" but if we don't bring in some decent players in the summer then serious questions have to be raised. If we can find players such as Lescott then it would be fantastic, its just that were prone to signing players like kroldrup.

 

Personnaly i would like to see something like this:-

 

OUT

Wright (release on free-end of contract)

Pistone (dont know if his contract is up but get rid)

Beattie-(but only if we can secure a replacement)

 

IN

Nuggent (if preston stay down think he'll come to us- maybe a swap with beattie)

Richardson?- (Man Utd have something like 60 players on their books and are planning a mass sale in the summer- so i read in the paper- i think someone like kieran would be a good signing)

Fernandes- (if we can somehow raise the ridiculous price tag- dont see how we can though)

 

 

-----------Howard--------

--Hibbert Yobo Lescott Neville--

Richardson Fernandes Cahill Arteta

-------Nuggent Johnson------

 

 

i think we need a left back, but can't think of anyone of the top of my head.

[StevO]

Leighton Baines from Wigan? hes a blue, a quality player and still young

[jamiemaher85]

quality player- didn't realsie he was a blue! i thought of him but didn't think he join us- but if he's a toffee then there could be a chance- especially in wigan go down.

 

would be awesome to get a contingent of evertonians playing for us- Nuggent, Baines- then have some youthies come through Kissock for example.

 

If we somehow got Nuggent and Baines then that would really be the start of a very good squad.

 

For one thing with two strong strickers we would have alot of competion for midfield- which would be a bit sexy.

[StevO]

Baines said last summer he was going to sign for everton, but the bid never came in.

 

imo we just need a left back and a left sided midfield player urgently, and we could do with a barton/sidwell too

also some depth would help

[jamiemaher85]

Baines said last summer he was going to sign for everton, but the bid never came in.

 

imo we just need a left back and a left sided midfield player urgently, and we could do with a barton/sidwell too

also some depth would help

would love sidwell at everton (my mate said he was a toffee but dont know wheter to believe him) he is available at a free at the end of the season isn;t he.

 

and agree with left sided midfielder as well. I think a good squad player would be etherington- would be cheap and not too high wages- i know alot of people will disagree with me on that though

[Romey 1878]

I didn't know about that (him saying he was going to sign for Everton). Maybe the bid didn't come in because Wigan are smart and asked for a substantial fee for a quality player.

[jamiemaher85]

I didn't know about that (him saying he was going to sign for Everton). Maybe the bid didn't come in because Wigan are smart and asked for a substantial fee for a quality player.

your probaly right- remeber the whole thing with chimbonda. they wouldn;t want to loose both full backs in one window.

 

if they go down baines will leave- wheter we get him is a differnet matter, but he is much better than championhip and many many clubs will be eager to snap him up. just hope chelsea dont come along and ruin him

[J*A*C*K*E*L*Z]

If we are thinking europe we cant let any of the players go not 1 and we need to add at least 5 if we want to have a good euro run and finish with a respectable leage position.

[MikeO]

Beattie-(but only if we can secure a replacement)

 

You could secure a replacement for BT by randomly picking somone in a blue shirt from the family enclosure at the moment. They'd be just as effective.

[jamiemaher85]

You could secure a replacement for BT by randomly picking somone in a blue shirt from the family enclosure at the moment. They'd be just as effective.

problem solved

[carper]

Not a good outlook when you see it written down is it? and people are happy with the squad moyes has built and his work, not me, walk in the summer please DM i can't watch another year of 1 up front and substitutions like that the other night.

 

does anyone know who the former player was that confronted moyes the other night and had to be pulled away in the end as it was getting quite heated.

 

 

Talk about reactionary!The squad we have has got us with in striking distance of a european finish.With a few aditions this Summer we could push on for an even higher finish.Would you rather we were down the other end fighting for survival again?It´s all very well saying walk Moyes,but who else would you get.Seems to me some poeple have delusions of grandure.

[jamiemaher85]

i dont want moyes out, but i will be changing my mind if he doesn't improve the squad in the summer.

[StevO]

Not a good outlook when you see it written down is it? and people are happy with the squad moyes has built and his work, not me, walk in the summer please DM i can't watch another year of 1 up front and substitutions like that the other night.

 

i just feel the need to ask a few questions.

 

1. what formation did we play when we finished 4th?

2. what formation did palace use AJ in?

3. what formation brings the best out of our two top scorers?

4. how often has 2 upfront worked for us with this team?

 

answers on a postcard please?

 

1. 451

2. 451

3. 451

4. none maybe?

Edited February 23, 2007 by StevO

[jamiemaher85]

if we can get decent wingers then (or even just someone with a left foot) then 4-5-1 would be alot more effective.

i don't mind us playing 4-5-1 becasue that means that beattie isn't in the squad

[aaron]

you all seem to forget the rumour that moyes is going back for wayne bridge and gerimi in the summer, i would like bridg here, he gets forawrd alot and is a decent defender, gerimi the same but his pace lets him down.

[jamiemaher85]

would love bridge here, but dont think he'll leave chelsea

[aaron]

he would on loan, he already has once but the problem comes to would he leave london.

[Joe]

I would like to see us pick up another striker, left back, winger and or another midfielder. I know that is a lot to ask for. I think if Man City continues to drop you might see Moyes try to go after Barton again. Also maybe even Reo-Coker if west ham are relegated. The guy I would like to see Moyes try and get is Kevin Nolan. If he is really frustrated about not being called up for the England squad he might actually think of leaving Bolton. Could we afford him probably not but he would be a great addition.

[Joe]

he would on loan, he already has once but the problem comes to would he leave london.

Liverpool has got to be a cheaper place to live then London. Maybe that could draw him to Everton

[aaron]

^^^

that maybe true but he's a footballer, he prob earns more in a week than a average person does in a week

[Joe]

^^^

that maybe true but he's a footballer, he prob earns more in a week than a average person does in a week

haha I know I was just making a bad joke. It would be in his best interest to leave Chelsea and go to a place where he is going to play. I really rate him high and would love to see Moyes pull some strings and bring him to Everton.

[Bluetrip]

i just feel the need to ask a few questions.

 

1. what formation did we play when we finished 4th?

2. what formation did palace use AJ in?

3. what formation brings the best out of our two top scorers?

4. how often has 2 upfront worked for us with this team?

 

answers on a postcard please?

 

1. 451

2. 451

3. 451

4. none maybe?

Well said, Moyes has got us into a potential top 6 finish with virtually no resources and people still aren't happy. It's a good fucking job the bumper Sky money is coming in this year or Bill would be right in the shit, as it stands he can pretend its his money we're investing.

[SimonButtle]

Well said, Moyes has got us into a potential top 6 finish with virtually no resources and people still aren't happy. It's a good fucking job the bumper Sky money is coming in this year or Bill would be right in the shit, as it stands he can pretend its his money we're investing.

 

that was a couple of seasons ago though, and as far as i am aware Lescott and AJ are part of the Sky money, i hope not though.Agree with the Bridge thing if we stick with 4-5-1 then we need some shit hot wide players.

Edited February 23, 2007 by The Prisoner

[Romey 1878]

Bridge can even play left mid if need be. God I hope Moyes goes back in for him in the summer, he's got a lot of making up to do.

[Pat]

Anyone see that Black cat?

[Romey 1878]

Prisoner I've just seen your starting post for this subject more or less exactly the same on NSNO

[SimonButtle]

Prisoner I've just seen your starting post for this subject more or less exactly the same on NSNO

 

i know i ripped it off there as it surprised me when i read it and it needed raising here as TT is better that NSNO simple really

[Romey 1878]

Ahh I thought they'd stolen it off you actually lol, my mistake

[Steve L]

i just feel the need to ask a few questions.

 

1. what formation did we play when we finished 4th?

2. what formation did palace use AJ in?

3. what formation brings the best out of our two top scorers?

4. how often has 2 upfront worked for us with this team?

 

answers on a postcard please?

 

1. 451

2. 451

3. 451

4. none maybe?

 

StevO is absolutely spot on!

4-5-1 has been our most successul formation by far under Moyes, it's also our most attacking.

We have midfielders capable of scoring (Cahill, Arteta, Osman), and we midfielders capable of grafting (Neville, Fernandes, Carsley).

We have 5 forwards of varying qualities and we're pretty solid at the back these days (mostly).

AJ has to be No1 when he's fit up there on his own. If no AJ, then Vaughany is a very similar type of player. Very fast over the turf and capable of bearing down directly on goal. If no Vaughany, then Victor it is also quite capable to sit up there alone. He offers good link up with the attacking midfielders and can also run at defences direct and put the shits up them.

BT? He can cut the oranges in half for half time with McFudge!

 

At the end of the day, 4-5-1 is an attacking formation. The midfield is where the game is controlled. If our midfield has the right mixture of grafting ball winners and attacking wanna be strikers then by default we will be strong and launch more attacking play.

DM should build the team / squad around this need and only then will we be able to seriously start to challenge regularly.

[Blue4Ever]

He should buy Fernandes right now so we dont get robbed and build a team around him. we already have at least 7 quality players

Howard Yobo Lescott Cahill Arteta Fernandes Johnson - Any of them would get in any team in the premiership under the top 4 and some even above so we have to hold on to them.

 

Arteta Fernandes Cahill VDM - Thats a midfield that will get us definate uefa cup football from the start next season. we will just have to see whether they will all stay bcos i dont think they all will sadly. i wouldnt mind if we got a left footed winger who is at least as good as VDM or id keep him. Osman isnt good enough imo he has glimmers of class but can play poor most of the time.

[Bill]

I wish you'd stop going on about VDM as though he's a great player, he's fookin useless and wouldnt get in any other team in this league.

He should be first out the door come summer, followed closely by, beattie, pistone, teflon, naysmith, and mcfudget.

[MikeO]

I wish you'd stop going on about VDM as though he's a great player, he's fookin useless and wouldnt get in any other team in this league.

He should be first out the door come summer, followed closely by, beattie, pistone, teflon, naysmith, and mcfudget.

 

Can you not get a special avatar Bill with steam coming out of your ears for every time you answer a positive post about VDM . I have a strange feeling you feel a little strongly about him .

[J*A*C*K*E*L*Z]

I wish you'd stop going on about VDM as though he's a great player, he's fookin useless and wouldnt get in any other team in this league.

He should be first out the door come summer, followed closely by, beattie, pistone, teflon, naysmith, and mcfudget.

 

hahahahahaha classic im not a massive VDM fan myself but dam you hate that guy. if he ever go's missing susspicously i bet you will have somthng to do with it. i do agree though i cant stand to watch us when he is playing he is a sack of s**te.

[Louis]

Baines said last summer he was going to sign for everton

 

where did you hear that? Btw in 442 he said he was a kopite.

[Heather_6]

prisoner get a grip, let carsley and stubbs go, but we'll keep vdm.

 

who can replace moyes?

 

I agree with you! Why would we send Fernandes back if he wanted to saty and we would pay for him!. But i'd keep stubbs for now- give im one more season

[Romey 1878]

We'd send him back whether he wanted to stay or not if we dont have the money to buy him

[Pat]

Cant understand why Benfica are so keen to get rid ? He'd kick ass in the Porugese comp.

 

Wonder if it has anyhting to do with the players ownership arangemnet ?

 

Strange one.

[aaron]

i hope we do get him even if it does cost us £12mil , so far he would be worth it. I liked the way he said after the game he likes it here and would like to stay.

[StevO]

where did you hear that? Btw in 442 he said he was a kopite.

 

in one of the tabloids, may have only been a rumour, or his agent was quoted, cant remember.

 

FM says hes a blue lol

[J*A*C*K*E*L*Z]

One of the reasons for selling im seen is that they have been told they have to sell to buy. Also i think they are being pressured into it by msi as msi dont get jack if he goes back were as they get a chunky 6 mill if he is sold. If we did get him id defo want him to be 100% are's as it is more straight forward that way. Also he does want to come to us but i belive we will have to make the decision before tyhe transfer window open as there could be many clubs sniffing around him were as we have the option to get it done before the window opens like we did with howard. It just slightly worries me the fact that if we buy him asuming we get into europe we need at least 5 new additions and to build up on the numbers and with a massive 12 million cut out are fund are we going to be able to do this. Do we want a squad or a class player?????

[Bill]

Both.

[J*A*C*K*E*L*Z]

Both.

we all know that but the harsh realty is i dont think are board would fund both

[Zed]

12 MIL

 

No Wonder portmouth fooked him off. Maybe 6 or 7, but 12

 

Are they havin a laugh, think hell be gone in the summer

[Pat]

Am sure the owners ? also ahd a clause that if the lad played so many games 4 Pompey they then had to stump up the money.

 

Hence Harry, using him very sparingly.

 

He also said he really rated the lad, but the 12 mill was even out of their Arms dealing owners reach.

[StevO]

yeah he couldnt play 3games

[J*A*C*K*E*L*Z]

yeah he couldnt play 3games

................... in a row

[Sickboy]

Just wondering, arnt we due some cash from man u if they win the title? That would pay for fernandes.

[john_webby]

yeah we will prob be due about a mil at most and i think it was reported at 500k

 

i think we would prob need at least 20 mil min just to build up the squad with about 5 decent squad players and then the money for manny as well would be needed

[Sickboy]

ahh that rooney deal was a good bit a business by BK wasnt it.

[Romey 1878]

Just wondering, arnt we due some cash from man u if they win the title? That would pay for fernandes.

 

 

We won't get anything in the way of money for Rooney now, it'll be players. There are rumours that when the Glazers came in they re-negotiated the whole deal for us to get players from them and not cash in hand

[jamiemaher85]

surely that cant be true, once the deal is done the deal is done.

 

though id happily take soemone like Richardson instead of cash.

 

though cash would be nice.

 

anything would be nice.

 

im confused

[aaron]

out of richardson, brown, slivester and flecher i think the players we would get and i wouldnt mind them here tbh

Edited March 1, 2007 by Everton Lad

[Romey 1878]

surely that cant be true, once the deal is done the deal is done.

 

though id happily take soemone like Richardson instead of cash.

 

though cash would be nice.

 

anything would be nice.

 

im confused

 

 

Ofcourse it can happen, these are only add ons and can easily be re-negotiated

[jamiemaher85]

well either way, if they win the league we will be better off.