GoldfishMemory Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Can anyone explain to me why we are recalling Turner after tomorrows game? We play tomorrow too so he aint recalling him for the bench or to play so why are we not letting him see out the remainder of the season with the owls?? Am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Howard can't play against United. TIM HOWARD is aiming to close in on a modern clean sheet record at Upton Park tomorrow – before taking an enforced break from Everton’s Euro bid. The great Neville Southall holds Everton’s clean sheet record in the Premiership era – 15 shut-outs during the 1994-95 campaign, which includes the club record of seven in a row. Howard has kept 13 so far this season – but knows he can only play in three of Everton’s four remaining matches. The American will be a spectator when Manchester United visit Everton next weekend in a match that could have a vital bearing on the destination of the Premiership title. Howard is barred from facing his old club this season under an agreement reached when he made the £3 million move from Old Trafford to Goodison Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted April 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Yeah but we're not recalling turner until after he plays for sheff wed tomorrow so why bring him back at all?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Cos Man Utd's game is next week, Probs only be on the bench and will play Teflon. Tho it should be the other way round cos Turners been playing regular, and turning in some good perfs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted April 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Cos Man Utd's game is next week, Probs only be on the bench and will play Teflon. Tho it should be the other way round cos Turners been playing regular, and turning in some good perfs. :| Ok so I got completely lost with that one. If he's bringing him back he should play he's been doing well and will be razor sharp in comparison to Dickie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxon Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 :| Ok so I got completely lost with that one. If he's bringing him back he should play he's been doing well and will be razor sharp in comparison to Dickie! He SHOULD lol but moyes seems to have faith in richard wrong (i believe he is a lost cause) we should give turner a chance because if next season howard gets injured (touch wood that wont happen) and wrong has left (i hope) we will need to rely on him unless we bring westerveld in again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 I see that other 17 year old Goalie (SWEDISH.??) has signed a two year Deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Lars Stubhaug...and he's Norwegian (so Swedish is close enough ). Surely that means someone's on their way and it can't be Ruddy or Turner. Only one possibility... The non-stick flying man is leaving the building ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxon Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Lars Stubhaug...and he's Norwegian (so Swedish is close enough ). Surely that means someone's on their way and it can't be Ruddy or Turner. Only one possibility... The non-stick flying man is leaving the building ! i hope Richard Wrong dont play against united if he does i dont think we have a chance lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluenose Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 yeh id rather play our lars in goal ahead of wright. but id play turner preferably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxon Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 i would rather BT in goal lol he cant score so he might be better at stopping goals lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIFTHEBINO Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 I've been watching Ian's progress from afar and he's had a cracking stint at both Palace and Wednesday- I hope he gets his chance in the team as I think he is ready for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummieblue Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 My uncle is a season ticket holder at Palace and from talking to him he does not seem to think that Turner is at the standard required to keep in the Prem atm he says that his shot stopping is very good and natural reflexes are brilliant but he says that he tends to be a bit unsure on bossing his area and when to come for the ball on crosses or to let the defence deal with it, saying that he believes that this will improve and that he is a real prospect but not quite at the stage where he is ready for the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummieblue Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Saying that I would rather he played than Wright! Hope everyone ready for that heart in the mouth feeling tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Scouser1878 Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Turner should play, simply for the fact that Wright was happy to sit on his ar*e for the rest of the season getting paid, rather than to ask for a transfer in january. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/turn...ts-on-five.html He is playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Scouser1878 Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Nice 1 Moyesey!!! After all his talk about Wright this week i thought it would be him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J*A*C*K*E*L*Z Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Nice 1 Moyesey!!! After all his talk about Wright this week i thought it would be him! yeh same! i think the sh*t hit the fan abit though as people knew how well turner had done they want him to play an moyes haf been almost bullied into changing his mind. It will be intreststing to see!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carper Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Thank god for that!Now alls we need is a fit striker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 I really dont think 451 would be sensible considering it is like a must win game we need 2 upfront no matter who. Man Utd has a very strong midfield and even if we add another midfielder I dont think it would make much differance however if we could have 2 strikers it would put uniteds defence under severe pressure with Fernandes + Mikel providing good service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIFTHEBINO Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Feeling a bit nervous for the guy now as he is looking for him to do well if he is to peform with Howard next season, or so it says! Man U is the most in form team down there and it'll be a huge test for Ian. I have my fingers crossed he can do well and show his ability in this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Must say am looking forwaqrd to watchinh Iain. Was more than dreading the other fellow anyway. I am happy with this decison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 actions speak louder than words, bye bye dickie! thou moyes did say they want to see if he can support howard next term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 wish wright would have played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxon Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 (edited) wish wright would have played he did well considering that this is his first real premiership start also he made a good few saves. i wish fernades started in middle and osman on wing and BT upfront and neville on bench Edited April 28, 2007 by Foxon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 wish wright would have played ........... It might have been a 2-6 hiding if he had, We'll never know now will we, i dont think Teflon will play for this club again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluenose Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 watching the game i thought turner did well. although he made a dreadful mistake for their first goal he did ok. made a few good saves including one from ronaldo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 watching the game i thought turner did well. although he made a dreadful mistake for their first goal he did ok. made a few good saves including one from ronaldo.He did have a few good saves but his one big mistake was HUGE. It might be unfair to say but if he hadn't dropped that ball I think we would have gotten atleast 1 point maybe even 3. The momentum changed after that. We definitely missed Howard today. It is a very tough loss to swallow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluenose Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 yeh it was that mistake that changed it. he lost his confidence coz before that he was doing realy well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 apart from the obvious he gave a good account of himself, much more inspiring than tef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 I agree, it was a massive game for him to play in but we all wanted him rather than Teflon, and we must accept that nobody is above making a gaff now and again. I think he is a good keeper, and would'nt be unduly concerned if he played again next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny the Blue Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 I totally agree with everything thats been said about him. He looked good appart from his mistake, which to be fair to him, nerves would have played a huge part. Only his second start in the premiership so his over all game was good. I think he needs to work on other areas of decision making too, looked a little eager to rush out. Wright is gone in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 I agree with everyone above really. That mistake changed the game totally, I think we would have won if not for that tbh. Also his positioning and decision making is atrocious, he needs to sort it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 he did well considering that this is his first real premiership start also he made a good few saves. i wish fernades started in middle and osman on wing and BT upfront and neville on bench BT start...so he could do what? not touch the ball for the entire game? and he had another chance to start a game... he got himself sent off 2 games 2 big mistakes ... hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 No need to lay the sarcasm on with a trowel Mike, we all know he is shit, in fact even he knows he is shit. How does he sleep at night?, on a big pile of cash, laughing his fat arse off. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 why not ... everyone else uses sarcasm, and we obviously all dont seens as some1 thinks he should have started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetrip Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 I have to admit I will be a lot more nervous next time Turner's standing in for Howard now I've seen him make a mistake like that. As previously mentioned, it's the second almighty calamity in as many games. He did make a couple of excellent saves though. Notably against Rooney and Ronaldo - who are possibly the last two players in the Premiership you want bearing down on your keeper one on one. So credit where it's due, but a keeper's value is judged on consistency and the mistakes made and at 22 he can't afford many more at this level, especially when you consider the likes of Czech, Reina and the up and coming Ben Foster are only 24. I don't think it's fair to make Turner the sole scapegoat though. We looked like coneceding for the majority of the match giving posession away far too cheaply and they were running us down every time we didnt. This is a personal gripe of mine, it requires desire not skill to keep pressure on for 90 minutes but we don't do it. For two of the goals Stubbs was completely out of position and that combined with his and Hibbert's resolute insistance on hoofing a direct ball whenever the ball comes their way contributed to us staying on the back foot for most of the game. We got what we deserved in the end, nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxon Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 (edited) why not ... everyone else uses sarcasm, and we obviously all dont seens as some1 thinks he should have started hey it just my opinion. i hate to say it but our strikers did nothing in that game really. Vaughan didnt even have a shot on target, osman didnt i dont think. Mcfadden came on and so did beattie none of them had a shot when manure got back in to it we didnt even try to attack them, we just had 10 men in our own half. we didnt clear the ball and made some stupid mistakes. we nearly had the win in the bag for the first 60 mins you could show someone who has never played football and tell them that is how to play, then the other 30 mins well it speaks for itself i believe that if we started with fernades in middle osman on the wing and neville on bench and BT or Mcfadden up front they may have done more. Edited April 29, 2007 by Foxon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 hey it just my opinion. i hate to say it but our strikers did nothing in that game really. Vaughan didnt even have a shot on target, osman didnt i dont think. Mcfadden came on and so did beattie none of them had a shot when manure got back in to it we didnt even try to attack them, we just had 10 men in our own half. we didnt clear the ball and made some stupid mistakes. we nearly had the win in the bag for the first 60 mins you could show someone who has never played football and tell them that is how to play, then the other 30 mins well it speaks for itself i believe that if we started with fernades in middle osman on the wing and neville on bench and BT or Mcfadden up front they may have done more. That would be because he was being used as a battering ram. Osman on the wing? He hasnt been fit to wear the shirt this season but still Moyes plays him. Mcfadden should have played on the left with Fernandes in the middle, BT upfront with Vaughan just behind him where Osman played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny the Blue Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 I agree about Osman, he hasnt done it for me this season, one or two moments of brilliance at the start but pretty weak by his standards towards the end. Yes Beatts should start, with Vaughn up top winning everything and then laying them off to him, how many times did we see Vaughn winning the header but finding no one in support of him. Start Beatts and give him the full fucking game!! Im past caring about everyones opinion of him cos the fact is he's OUR striker and so support him instead of scape goating him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluenose Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 yeh BT does actually try when hes arsed and when he does he can be useful. however his workrate can be bettered by AJ. him and vaughn are lethal. hopefully for portsmouth we will have AJ and with howard back in goal we should give em hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 apart from the obvious he gave a good account of himself, much more inspiring than tef I agree, it was a massive game for him to play in but we all wanted him rather than Teflon, and we must accept that nobody is above making a gaff now and again. I think he is a good keeper, and would'nt be unduly concerned if he played again next week. I agree. He will be a good keeper and like all younger players their more prone to mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsno Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 absolutely he'll come good with a bit more experience didn't Big Nev concede 5 in his first major game? thought he did ok in the main though, made a couple of good saves and showed he isn't scared of the odd one-on-one situation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 waht the hell are u people smoking ossie and vaughn ran there fuckin socks off yesterday and i h8 it wen u ppl critisise them they worked there arses off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 and i hate it when people write in text form i cant judge on players because i didnt see the game, but from what i heard and read ossie was alright but not at his best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 The manager could always drop Osman and play Van d Meyde but he Does'nt, i wonder why that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Craccer, don't be such a fucking wimp, if you have a problem with people giving their opinions, pack you kit up and fuck off. Sarcasm is fine, but pedantism is a pain in the fucking onions, if you pick people up for thr slightest thing, expect the same right back at you. You have only just come back after a ban, don't make the same mistake twice. ATB Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIFTHEBINO Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 (edited) Gutted for Ian and I really hope Moyes keeps faith in him.It maybe shows he's not quite ready and an extended loan spell at a Championship team is maybe in order to get more experience. :( :( Edited April 29, 2007 by MIFTHEBINO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 Signed for Preston after turning down a new contract with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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