Everton_Worshiper Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/moye...re-players.html At last a glimmer of hope that Moyes can actually speak to the fans...not that it does any good as basically he is saying we have no dosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Here we go again. We start with the old we hoping to add a few more players to the old we want to add some players to the old we are looking but not much around at the moment. The reason there is not much around is cos other teams where prepared to pay more for the players that we were linked with. Same every time. Next thing will be along the lines or we want players but wanted players but none there and people wanted to keep there players but we have a good small squad that will stick together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blablabla Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Same old Same old. We hear this every year. A pointless trip into europe and a poor showing in the prem is just around the corner. They have told us themselves there is a need for a larger squad of players. So why is the squad now acceptable???? If no more new faces come in soon im going to be fairly worried this season. Look at the likes of Newcastle Sunderland & Spurs buy buy buy Yea I know we will all say quality over quantity but...... come on smallest squad in the premiership Loose Cahill Arteta or Johnson and we may as well give up now. Lets hope not anyway BLUES come on everton GET YA WALLET OUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 We've heard all this before, not good enough for me, i can see us adding only Jags to the squad. The fact that he seems to limit himself to the english market does'nt help, no wonder we can't compete for the players their to expensive, he seems to be against buying from abroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetrip Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Problem is we don't know how much Kenwright is giving him to spend. Moyes has long lamented the financial contraints at Everton while patting himself on the back for competing with teams who have money, and rightly so. But we know for certain there is a huge influx of cash this year possibly more than double last year. Moyes will have a list of players he wants to bring in and in my opinion between the chairman and ceo, they are not giving him the money he needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshire_blue Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 after signings like kroldrup can you blame him? if he buys from the premiership/championship then there's a certain level of confidence that they'll be used to the style of play. plus davey, presumably, will know more about them - easier to see games and that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 He has also said this as well. Moyes sealed a £4million move for Phil Jagielka from Sheffield United last week and is keen to add more players to his squad, but admits he is struggling to compete with some of the top flight's big spenders. The likes of Manchester United, Tottenham, Liverpool, Fulham and West Ham have splashed millions of pounds on new players this summer and Moyes fears inflated prices could have negative consequences for the game. He told Everton's official website: "I think there has been some irresponsible buying and spending by some clubs and it makes it a bit more difficult if you've got less money to spend than that." If we had millions to spend like if we got investment then I am sure he wouldn't moan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 It's just no good....I can't take it anymore :crying_anim: goodbye cruel world :suicide_anim: . (It wasn't the lack of signings that did for me in the end St Peter mate, it was all those depressing bastards on TT....now where do I go for a kick about with Dixie, Labs and Bally?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 It's just no good....I can't take it anymore :crying_anim: goodbye cruel world :suicide_anim: . (It wasn't the lack of signings that did for me in the end St Peter mate, it was all those depressing bastards on TT....now where do I go for a kick about with Dixie, Labs and Bally?) Mike, Can i have the Human Beast tape then as you won't need it anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 I absolutely love this line -" ...there has been some irresponsible buying and spending by some clubs..." That has to be one of the best excuses I have ever heard for getting out bid on players. It's like what a said on another post - If you find all the player you want are valued at around 25-50% more than you hoped - you either buy less players, shop further down the market or overspend your budget or a mixture of these. Simple economics. My point would be - get someone for the left hand side - either a left back or left winger, just pay the going rate to get somebody half decent on this side of the pitch. even if it mean stretching in to next seasons transfer budget a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 i agree Rob this line " ...there has been some irresponsible buying and spending by some clubs..." i think is moyes warming up his list of reasons for us not signing anyone, before long you will get the " We looked but nothing was there " line also. However there is still a month till the start of the season so we will have to wait and see tbh. you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 heard it all before, stop dithering and get your finger out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blablabla Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Yea seems like Evertons PR are the king of spin. I think all his transfer targets have gone. Maybe Smith left but dont count on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetrip Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Maybe he's being loyal to the man who pays his wages and keeping shut about what goes on behind closed doors. It amazes me how our chairman escapes critisism when we talk about lack of transfer activity. Thats the last I'll say on it, I know I'm repeating myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blablabla Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Everyone knows its the board.... Moyesy is just the front man Im sure moyes just picks his targets and lets the backroom stuff get done by the moneymen When there is a gaurenteed 30mill knocking about...... I know reports suggest we had 9mill to spend wich is realistic for the cash strapped blues. what the hell is going on they seem to be struggling to find 9 mill.... Its as iff were haggling for hagglings sake..... If richardson was available for 4mil the other day wyh not just cough up and bite uniteds hands off... what the hell are we after BOGOF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 (edited) Yea seems if you have a moan and your new they dont like you postingmust be just for you big boys with all the power So Ill say it here MOYESY HASNT GOT A CLUE Everyone knows its the board.... Moyesy is just the front man Im sure moyes just picks his targets and lets the backroom stuff get done by the moneymen When there is a gaurenteed 30mill knocking about...... I know reports suggest we had 9mill to spend wich is realistic for the cash strapped blues. what the hell is going on they seem to be struggling to find 9 mill.... Its as iff were haggling for hagglings sake..... If richardson was available for 4mil the other day wyh not just cough up and bite uniteds hands off... what the hell are we after BOGOF. Edited July 12, 2007 by GoldfishMemory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 If it is the board, then moyes should have some balls and come out and say he is not happy with the lack of backing, ffs we are suposed to be mounting a campaign in europe. rafa did it with them yanks, it soon shook them up. he's a decent manager and seems like a decent bloke so how can he be happy with this every year? his head will start to turn towards other jobs before long, i can see it coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosse Captain Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 the worst thing about this is there is another month of checking the internet daily for a sniff of a signing, whilst other 'lesser' clubs spend spend spend. I'm not down hearted yet. As there IS still that month. Just hope i don't look back on Day 1 of the season and say 'what if' You watch guys, we'll call a press conference next week and unveil 6 new quality players that will have us all screaming 'everton doing business the everton way....quiet and effective......Hooray for the blues' :whistle: ps.....has anyone heard from Mikeo ? ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 he's been posting recently...including today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 (edited) heard it all before, stop dithering and get your finger out He says it every season and nothing much else happens, its the same old story, if we get no1 in, then go out early in europe then people seriously need to question the board because if BK would just fuckoff and let some1 with money come in then we couldn't blame him. I usually blame moyes but I dont think it is Moyes he knows who he wants just if we have the money + we must not have any or Nugent would be an Everton player. Edited July 12, 2007 by Blue4Ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 .. it just irresponsible buying and spending by some clubs..!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 I was having a look at the news on Everton website from July/August last year and the last one I can see about signings is DM saying around the 3rd August he wants more players and looking and then nothing til near the end of August where we get not going to add to the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 I think Moyes is having a bit of a dig at Roy Keane. We could have had Nugent 4mil, Smith & Richardson 7mil, Baines 5mil(ish) but then Roy the mountie comes along and starts bidding silly money and we are basically lookin at paying through the nose for players who should be reasonably priced. We could have had the 4 players above for 16mil if the rumours are to be believed but after the stupid bids being thrown around, Nugent 6mil SOLD Smith 6mil Richardson 6mil (I think) Baines 6.5mil So thats 16mil worth of players we or somebody else could have signed but because of people like Roy Keane those same group of players are now gona cost at least 24.5 million pound. Keane or other managers could have just offered what the player was worth rather than going in with a top dollar bid and driving up the price of every player sold this summer. As for the will he won't he saga Moyes did say at the end of the season don't expect the signings to land until near the end of the window! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Goldfish said .... "As for the will he won't he saga Moyes did say at the end of the season don't expect the signings to land until near the end of the window!" . . . . Yeah Liam, but by that tiime all the decent players have gone elsewhere, so we are then looking at players we didnt really want. So its sale time and we end up with 2nd class players and panic buys. I'm one of your pessimistic moaning old fookers and i know i should'nt be after 50 years of the Everton way, but I'm so disappointed that we havent learnt a lesson. Two seasons ago 4th place and into Euro after god knows how many years, they bought nobody that was any good, ended up with the smallest and weakest squad in the premier and trying to survive in euro, and i'm sure you remember how it went, out of everything in the first round and in the bottom two by christmas, Favourites for relegation. Here we are again and the same thing is happening, all the better players are going to lesser clubs, if we had matched any of the bids for these players they would have jumped at us to sign rather than Wigan, Portsmouth, Sunderland and Birmingham ffs, theyve all spent more than us. Now we'll probs end up with some players we've never heard of, or maybe no fooker at all, If we can only spend four million out of an expected windfall of 50 to 60 million this season, we must be in freefall to extinction. I'M A MISERABLE OLD FOOKER. but there must be an awful lot of peeps who feel the same way, and i admire you for keeping your Chin up, you believe in the club, and you put your feelings down in print, thats your choice. But equally all those other peeps who dont have the same feelings as you should not be called when they put theirs down in print.......Just an afterthought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 I agree with the whole sentiment of your post Bill I just think this is the wrong time to be admitting defeat. There is endless posibilities on why and who and how much it just seems a bit premature to sit back in our computer chairs and say "I told you so"! It's possible Moyes isnt the slightest bit interested in any of the players we have "missed out on" and all his signings are lined up. On the other hand I could be wrong but I'll give up hope when there is no hope, until then I'm on a high it's Bury on Saturday the footballs back peeps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonblue Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 For FFS Kenwright the Kopites have just spent 40 million, that's right just under 40 million on two players! We have spent 4 million on Jakielka. I'm as sick as a dawg and not very happy at all!"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestcountryToff Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 It is a bit gutting when our worst enemy buys quality like Torres, Babel et al. Wish we had some money! Please hope we pick up a few players...just for us to compete with Pompey, West Ham and Newcastle who have all moved forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Remember they have just got two Multi Millionaires into the Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 true they do have 2 millionaires at the club like Pompy have 1 and a few others have some. We don't (only on paper) and I am sorry but its about time Everton done something about it. Do I want the Man City guy to take over Everton. no not really but if he is bringing money to the club then what does it matter. Would you have Roman in charge at Everton At this rate we are going to be over taken by the likes of Pompy, Newcastle and Mancity and get further behind the likes or Spurs and the Arse not to mention the top 3. DM said at the end of last season he need a good few players coming in. Said the other week he wanted to add to the players he add. Said the other day he hoped to add more players now saying he wants to add more players but its tight out there. I agree with the people who say we still have 1 month left and not worry but I agree with the likes of Licker more. 1 signing in 6 weeks is not enough. At what point do we start worrying when we have not signed anyone else?? 1 week before the season starts??? 1 week after the season starts? 1 day before the window cloese??? Yes there is still time to sign players but the worrying thing for me is how it seems to be following pattons for previous years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonblue Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Probably all available income from Sky etc has been sucked into paying our wack towards the new stadium. I trhink I heard somewher Everton have to find 30M. The rationale behind it is a new stadium will make us far more attractive to a potential investor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Probably all available income from Sky etc has been sucked into paying our wack towards the new stadium. I trhink I heard somewher Everton have to find 30M. The rationale behind it is a new stadium will make us far more attractive to a potential investor. That if true has just burst my head, we only needed 30mil to get the kings dock project moving years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 I was thinking that with DM moaning about the prices surely he should be looking at doing something about it. Either he pays the higher prices for the players (as we said before a player is only worth what someone will pay for him). Why shoud; Sunderland and Wigan have to match our prices and take there chances that the player will join them. They have more money than us so offer more for a player and then we don't have a chance. If we could offer more money for a player that we and Liverpool wanted we would so Liverpool don't get the chance. If not going to pay the higher money then he needs to look abroad for good young players like Wenger does. No point just moaning about the pices and not signing anyone otherwise will never take the next step and will always be behind the other teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 I love the fact that on the Everton website on the what the papers say section for the last 3-4 weeks each day its been who we are being linked with signing now on todays all the stories are about DM moaning about the spending of other clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage9640 Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 dont get me wrong i like david moyes but y is he coming out moaning about what other clubs are paying thinks its slighty embraasing if i club wants wants a player they will pay slighty more then there worth to make sure they get them thats just football just everton are to tight to open there wallets i hope we sign more players but it just aint looking good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFCfanatic Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 It is annoying. I agree with the fact that obviously the stadium is slurrping up a lot of the money but still we need the most investment in the team imo. It is there where u lay the foundations. It's the case of finding a happy medium between both. I was expecting us to spend at least 12-15million this summer tbh. Looks unlikely! This season will be an interesting one. There will be about 6 -8 clubs thinking of UEFA cup and it is SO close between them all. The season will hinge on injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 fuck me! after reading this thread i just wanna curl up and die! been a rubbish week in work and you miserable bastards have totally made me worse! will someone do me a favour and kick this bucket from under my feet! i was getting all excited by the friendly on saturday, looking forward to getting back on a terrace, now i just wanna fucking die! thanks TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J*A*C*K*E*L*Z Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 I KNOW! come on people this is abit like depressing the way people are going on i mean im unhappy but what some people are forgetting is that these clubs need to spend all there millions as we allready have it on the pitch in the likes of cahill arteta lesscot ect and weve done very well to not lose any good players for another season. there is still along way to go in the transfere window and weve got 1 absolute steal in jagielka witch will proove a huge adddition and we are still looking to bring in more. You cant rush these things for all we know he could bring in a great signing next week then it will be happy days. or even better beatie could score a hatrick in the friendlys an set the world alight, weel be ok we allways are so everyone calm down please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 You have new owners at Liverpool - Spend Spend Spend You have new owners at West Ham - Spend Spend Spend You have new owner at Villa - Spending has already started You are also going to have the same at Man City Sunderland have a few bob (from where I don't know) but are willing to spend just to attrach player to the club, Wigan are also doing the same. This year the market is definately booming for SELLING clubs!! At least we are not watching the likes of Cahill, Arteta, Johnston and Lescott going out of the door. And that is a very good sign considering the money players are going for We have a decent squad of player, abit a little small - They got us 6th last season, with Beattie and VDM contibuting little to nothing. Don't forget Vaughan's impact was only minimal last year. This year we should really consider him an extra player. Cahill was out for the majority of the season. So only need one or two of those players to have a good consistent season and we are ahead of what we had last season, add to that Jagielka then things are not that bad. We have good rid of some dead weight this summer - It is sometimes frustrating that we aren't buying more players we would like - But I am glad the club aren't being put in finacial crisis by the board and the manager. I have mentioned on other posts we are going to have to cut our cloth accordingly, Moyes has come out and said he only has money of one other major signing (what £5-6M??) so he is doing the right thing and focusing on which single player we need the most - I can see why Nugent isn't at the club as foward line is not the weakest position. One decent left sider and some loans as cover would do me if that the bottom line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Don't get me wrong I am not saying I want to see the club signing 6 players and spending loads of money but what I would expect the club to do is spend like they did last summer. I see the signing of Jag as the same as the signin of Lescott so if we bring in another player of AJ abality and then 1 or 2 loan signings I would be happy (providing the loans are on option to buy) If DM came out next week and completed the signing of Manny and then brought in say a left back on loan or another striker on loan along with say a free transfer then I would be happy with that at is means that we are adding to what we have got as well as improving the squad. If he doesn' bring anyone else in then won't be happy but IF what he says today about 1 big signing and loan signings then i will be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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