christiffa25

 

Barkley nor Stones would have been £40m players under Moyes IMO. So its a moot point.

 

Barkley was on a path to nowhere - one game where he gave away a penalty led to his exclusion for a year (more or less)... Stones has given away a few and should have given more. He would be a bench player/reserve/loanee.

Imo that is a ridiculous post!

Clearly posted by someone who has a issue with Moyes.

 

Thank you, David. How's the tan?

Haha nice one!

Just my opinion mate, of course others will differ which is fair enough.

I think lukaku would certainly have happened under Moyes tbh.

As for money he certainly didn't have money. Ok every now and again he splashed when he sold but that was all. He had nothing like what Martinez has been afforded.

It makes me sad when Moyes gets bashed, or put down on. And I think for whatever reason some people change history when talking about what he did here which is a shame.

He had his faults, which imo were brought on by circumstance rather than choice. But all in all he did a brilliant job here and I would have loved to have seen what he could have done with the extra cash and resources Martinez has had. We'd certainly be fighting for top 4 currently rather than heading for another mid table finish.

Anyway, the fool went and took the most poisened job in football, got shafted, and I bet regrets that decision more and more everyday! But still, he's a better manager than our current one imo, fa cup winner or not.

 

Exactly. Some fans act like Martinez is doing nothing right at all. He has changed an aging squad, brought in some great young talent and is changing the way we play Football. It was never going to be seemless.

Therefore i don't think its as clear cut as saying its time to go, there is a bigger picture to look at.

 

People stuck by Moyes for 10 years and we basically stood still with a few highlights. At least with Martinez you can see what he is trying to build and create.

 

I hate seeing Managers sacked after a short time. You cant judge a manager after 2 years when so much needed changing at the club. He frustrates the life out of me at times but iv never seen us play so much great football either. Just my opinion.

For starters Moyes took us from being relegation fighters year after year to a top 6 side with a crap squad and no money! Of course people stuck by him! Even at the end Moyes was trying and getting close to cracking the top 4 with NO money. He had to beg and borrow!

This building a young team with a new style is a cop out imo. He has seasoned pro's in that mix too. There's no improvement, we're getting worse! And a quick look at other teams (Spurs) introducing younger players and a way of playing does NOT mean you drop to a mid table team.

Whoopy dooo.....we can play some exciting attacking football at time? So we bloody should with the talent in this squad!!

The only tick I'll give Martinez is, he's brought in some good, actually very good players. But again, when your a big club like Everton, so you should be able to. There's also been several duds!

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-roberto-martinez-tony-pulis-10890564

Everything that's quoted by Martinez in that article explains exactly why we are like we are under him. It also explains why things will never change.

I'm sure the only reason he's not been sacked is the fact bill and his merry men know a sale is imminent. Therefore bringing in a new man now, when new owners haven't picked him would be pretty pointless.

However, sale or no sale, I think the luckiest manager in the PL has till the end of the season before he'll have to pack his bags!! Unfortunately for us !!

I'd imagine the Americans plan would be to buy now, invest to build a stadium then sell for profit. Working the same way as we are now in regards to transfers etc.

Can't see them here for the long run to make us title contenders or anything like that unfortunately.

The cynic in me does wonder at there not being a peep of a takeover in over a decade of searching 24/7, but now that Kenwright is rumoured to be seriously ill not one, but two!, potential buyers are found relatively easily. One would almost think they hadn't been looking until now... .

It's the new TV money mate. It's that huge, it now makes us a very good money making investment even if they did naff all to take us forward.

Which to me is a worry!

I always hoped IF we were ever to be taken over it would be a ridiculous rich sheik or tycoon who wanted to buy the PL title.

Americans worry me. Their in it for making money, not the love of football. How that will pan out, God only knows!

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Hi all new member....

Can anyone tell me how when I click on a threa it takes me to the last page first instead of the first page?

I'm having to skip several pages on every thread to get to the latest post

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