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Really? You really think that? You may need to get your head checked. Sure he's not a great player, but no one has ever said that. The fact is that he is a great leader, motivator and to some extent an organizer. Our play when he was injured was formless and actually worse than it was at the very beginning of the season. As soon as he was back, we started playing with shape again and a more drive and will.

Our play when he was injured was because virtually every player was playing out of position. Cahill on left wing, Hibbo at left back...etc etc. It was when Pienaar came back we looked a team again.

Of course Nevilles leadership were in full display for the Liverpool and Chelsea goals!

You're mad. Neville is loads better than Hibbert, VDM, Jo, Castillo, Neill and those have just been with us in the last 2 years. Get a clue. Neville obviously knows how to lead out boys despite not being the best footballer; look at the difference in our form with Nev out vs with him on the pitch, he makes an impact.

Utter utter rubbish. He brings nothing to the table both as a footballer or as a so called leader

disagree...great leader and a good player to have on the pitch.

 

all in all though, we played some lovely football against united and beat them, arsenal we played quite well too. against city is the performance that stands out for me though, totally ran the show (fellaini in particular). when we have pienaar and arteta in the same side we generally play good football, arteta's the main difference i think really, he comes deep and stops as much hoofing.

Do you know what a leader does? It certainly isnt what Neville does. He is 1 of the worst players in recent memory to pull the Royal Blue on and its a disgrace to past capts that he wears the armband

He's played 185 games in six seasons, that's thirty plus a year during our most successful period for twenty years.

 

Came seventh in our player of the season last year behind Pienaar, Jagielka, Fellaini, Baines, Arteta and Cahill and won four man of the matches.

If you're suggesting we should only keep players who are cemented into a first team place we'd have a squad of eleven.

We need depth and he's a very decent player.

We dont need squad players, we need 1st teamers to take us on thus leaving the 1st teamers who arent good enough to become the squad player. The term flogging a dead horse is an accurate description of Ossie

I said he's one of ours (by which I mean he's been with us since he was fifteen/sixteen) which he is.

Fair enough, either way he is had enough time to cement a place and it isnt going to happen. We all know it isnt

And Carragher's a Blue .

 

Ancient history. Peter Reid was Red, I'd like to see someone tell him that that means he still is.

Dont disagree, it was you who said he was 1 of us. He isnt, he still is a red and he openly admits it

Pienaar is unpopular with some SA fans because they think he cherry picks his games.

He is SA only good player though, without him they are very average

Jesus christ get rid of

neville, when he dooesn't play we lack his leadership, never play as well when he isnt in the team. Coincidence, i think not

yobo, I think he has been a good player for us and although he has the odd lapse in concentration, he is a very good back up

ossie, no way, he has been here since the start of his career and although was a red, he now bleeds blue, on his day possibly our best technician

gosling, he is young and seems to have a knack for being in the correct place at the correct time, starting to look a little stronger

baxter, i think we need to give jose a few more years, he is a young lad and has the potential to be a good player.

 

If it was up to me, i would sell nobody. IMO we need a right winger, cover at left back and a striker (maybe). Although Moyes knows more than all of us. In moyes we trust

Oh dear, another victim of the con job that his Neville's fabled leadership. We struggled when Pienaar was out and not Neville, we started playing well again (after the derby) when Pienaar came back and players started playing in there proper position again.

This nonsense that it was Neville is a disgrace to players who are worthy of the shirt, not this nobody who has the skill factor of a newt, he isnt good enough and never will be.

Agree on Yobo to an extent, but he has lost it and doesnt look like ever coming to back to the Yobo we know he can play like.

Ossie our best technician? Not worthy of a comment, its just plain wrong

Gosling, No skill, no pace. Dont be distracted by 1 deflected goal and 1 goal from 6 yards out with a open goal.

You're not the first person to mention Ossie.

 

How anyone can consider letting him go after his performance against ManU is totally beyond me. Shows what he's capable of....you can say he doesn't do it often enough but he's not the sort of player who's going to excel when we're playing badly. As part of an Everton on form (which will hopefully be most of the time now) he's a huge asset....not an automatic choice like Arteta & Pienaar but a great squad member. Plus he's one of ours, which counts for something imo.

Starting with the last bit 1st, he isnt. He is a redsh*te.

The man united game was a one off and he has done it in the past, playing well in 1 game and Evertonians suddenly think he is good when he quite clearly is never going to cut it on a regular basis. He is 28 now, when is he ever going to cut it? Sell him to a lower league side and let him shine

Out

Neville

Yobo

Ossie

Gosling

Baxter

In

New Right back

New Striker

Right winger

Very bad miss of course, but stunk?

From the moment he came on we were really applying the pressure against Spurs, he chased everything, harried Spurs defenders and his link ups and one twos created more than one opening!

The guy who changed the Spurs game, was the dutch psycho when he was moved forward. LD did v little

In both of the last two games, when he has come on in place of Vic we instantly looked more threatening.

Agreed he can have a stinker now and then, but that can be said of most of the team, but he does bring us the pace that we so lack most of the time.

He stunk against Spurs, culminating in the miss of the season

Cant say i will be that bothered either way to be honest. While he hasnt been as bad as i thought he would be, he has hardly set the world alight neither. Some very uninspiring performances in the cups especially.

If we can get him for 2 or 3m then ok but for 6m there is better and younger out there

Hi Guys,

 

Derby County fan here, so consider this a random, neutral view....

 

I have to admit that Everton have always been one of those teams that never caught my imagination as a layman.

 

You know the drill, you fancy a casual watch of football on TV and check what's on, "Fulham vs Birmingham".... no thanks. Everton used to fall into that bracket for me. Not any more.

 

There I was, yesterday, hungover and looking for diversion. I slept through most of Reading vs Villa and then thought I'd give your match a go.

 

Blimey. I know it was Hull (Awful), but you guys ripped them to shreds. Apart from the pre half-time wobble, the attacking football being played was superb and as good as, if not better than, anything I've seen all season. If Yakuba was firing properly, you may even have got to double figures, it was that comprehensive a performance.

 

Obviously great results against Chelsea and Man Utd, but I'd say it was yesterday when I really sat up and took notice of Everton. Arteta was great (his wife is stunning), Heiteger was solid and Donovan seemed very useful. However, the two players that really caught my eye were Pienaar and Neville. More shocks, as I never really understood what Pienaar was for and, as you know, most people automatically dimiss Neville as the grey man. Neville's performance was one of the tidiest I've seen in a long time from a full back, he never seems to waste the ball. Very impressive.

 

Taking all into account, Moyes has to be one of the best managers that the game has seen in years.

 

I know you've had issues with injuries and a shocking start to the season, but how have your performances compared to yesterday? Was it a flash-in-the-pan one-off? Or is this how your side is developing? If it is a sign of things to come, then it must be good to be an Everton supporter.

 

At the risk of starting to sound like a gushing Bill Kenwright (remember that?), I'll end with a thank you for diluting my hangover misery somewhat and good luck wishes for your push for fourth place. Tough objective but you never know.

 

I await your next TV appearance with interest!

 

Remember, Derby County, so I do have some recent Premiership Pedigree.......

 

DG

You was going along great until you mention our right back. A full back normally tackles a winger and not stand off him. He is our major weak link and the sooner he gets out of the side the better for us

How can you give Yak 8? Absolute shocker of a game. How many sitters did he miss? 4-5?

He created the 1st, won us a pen and was a constant menace to their defence all game with superb running off the ball. All that was missing was a goal to cap a superb forwards display

Arteta by a considerable distance, getting back to his majestic best. Was a joy to watch a player in blue performing like that