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Im not sure how this will pan out in the end but when all the macho stuff has quietened down and all the chest pumping and whos a cheeky bastard and how we hate that arrogant bastard I really hope there is someone at EFC with a cool head who actually decides what is a good deal for us and if selling and bringing 2 or 3 good players is the best way for us to go im not sure one part says keep your best the other says can we improve by selling now he is still a work progress and none of us can see into the future not an easy call IMO.

Very much what a lot of people have been saying only put more eloquently

Sorry mark just my feeble attempt at humour (whats an emoji)

Im packed (where am I going again?)

Im a bit worried about all these references to crusty and what he was worth I don't remember being sold to PSG Mind you I don't remember much these days

Barry had a good first season took a lot of flack last season Robles came in for 3 or 4 games played well dropped for a keeper who had a disaster of a season so nothing learned there. Jerry a long way from a regular first teamer any where he has been Luk & McCarthy no problems with after watching the arsenal game which tells us more than a few games in jock land im very concerned about next season I don't have to wait for it to start to know what's coming. IMO

I agree with you to disagree ,but I did not bring the maths into it I mealy responded to the comment that 90% of the players at efc were moyes signings.

Its funny on this site if people run out of a footballing discussion out come the grammar police, or the constipated mathematician.

Then we are in deeper shit than I thought.

Barry one good season, McCarthy and luk never criticised, cleverley looking good I don't think so Del boy did very little first time around not holding my breath this time so back to maths only 2 have proved them selves over his 2 year rein we know moyes made mistakes my point with RM is he has learned nothing from last season he has tuned one of the best defences into wigans defence and he had us hovering over the drop I watched us against arsenal and it was men against boys.

Last season was one of the most boring seasons I have ever watched EFC the whole season was totally predictable no plan B so you must have been watching the first half of someone else's season I agree attack is better i wish i had seen some, all i saw was backward, square, slow, football.

You can argue the maths, side issue whos left the club irrelevant, RM brought them in and they have improved the team 0% ( I think that maths is correct)

You made my point for me same defence different coach ,one who takes it seriously, and one who thinks its beneath him to do anything as negative as defending.

Its funny no one wants birdman,kone,mcgeedy,robles,etc 90% of what he brought in, no brainer realy

5 mil was peanuts for a quality CB all that experience he made us solid at the back as for being dropped for not being good enough you mean for bird man by a manager who does not practice defending corners or anything else to do with defence for that matter he is just leading us down the same street as last season its funny all the players other people want is moyes people

Like I said very little for 5 + years as a very solid defender

was he not a free transfer or very little ?

Oh you mean under Moyes defence yes I agree

Rusty 747 yesterday

I agree if lukaku gets injured we are dead up front and we desperately need a new keeper (another season of TH cock ups would just about do me in) we desperately need a number 10 and a new CB at the very least then you need back up for ROM, all those saying top 4 or 6 have very short memory's so far the defence is the same as last seasons if anything weakened by SD leaving.

I think he got a raw deal from a clueless manager he gave us excellent service for no money and yet was cast into the reserves by a manger who can not spell defence never mind organise one.

It wont be difficult to score more than ross at the moment How many did TC score last season playing for villa about 3 goals in 30 odd games The only that surprises me about TC is that anyone thinks he will surprise us?

Not for me

Am I missing something here palace can afford a proper No 10 but we get cleverly?

I think come xmas just BOOOOOO will do.